Seriously 3-5 minute repop on NMs?

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Need a picture of a Lalafell decked out in all the NM gear thats been released today with "Haters Gonna Hate" Caption.

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Why would anyone hate? Everyone is going to have everything in a month. It's like a waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

So are you enjoying what SE is doing? I know you very well for about 1year now from eorzea website. You think 3-5 is fun? do you think this game even have hope how Yoshi is taking it?

not even wow is this casual -.- i want tanaka back.

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I spent my time in XI doing all kinds of crazy things. The most boring of it was doing stuff like Camping Colin for over a 6 month period and never getting the drop. Waiting around for a monster to pop is not skill.

Killing IT++ Monsters solo isn't even skill if your crutching off Gear to do it.

Skill is being able to get a group of friends together, log on, group up, spend 4 or 5 hours doing what ever and not feeling like you wasted your time when you logged off.

If I log on and camp a 1 Hour NM Pop and it pops every hour on the hour and I camp it for 5 hours, and no drop falls? I wasted 5 hours of my day. I could have been out gaining XP in a proper XP area with a proper party, Or doing a dynamis run to claim crack fallers to sell off for what ever I can get. Or I could be helping an LS mate climb Delkafutts tower for Rank 4. Or bumrushing them through Castle O for Rank 5. Even if I don't gain anything out of helping I still didn't waste my time because it means more people were on their way to being the same rank as me and we can share other events together.


Sitting in one spot for hours at a time does nothing but waste time.

I got 4 untradable drops already since it opened in my linkshell.... at this rate I can gear my whole linkshell of 40 in less then a month... I am sorry for a mmo that is just pathetic.

They keep it at this spawn rate then need to reduce the drop rates 20 fold......

I'm a bit unsure on my thoughts on this , the low spawn rate kinda sucks now, but at the same time once we get numbers of players there will be plenty of competition for stuff, something tells me though low spawns are to keep peopleplaying interseted not sure.

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Originally Posted by Randis

Come on, SE added a bunch of low level NM, people wanted more mobs and variety and they got it. SE did not announce any endgame NM with ultra rare gear for this patch. Look at them, those are simple mobs, reused models.
I am sure SE will add high level content later.
ATM priority is low level content, it is very understandable.
stop whining guys

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Please answer me this Randis are you honestly completely ok with 3 minute repop and like a 50% drop rate?

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

I spent my time in XI doing all kinds of crazy things. The most boring of it was doing stuff like Camping Colin for over a 6 month period and never getting the drop. Waiting around for a monster to pop is not skill.

Killing IT++ Monsters solo isn't even skill if your crutching off Gear to do it.

Skill is being able to get a group of friends together, log on, group up, spend 4 or 5 hours doing what ever and not feeling like you wasted your time when you logged off.

If I log on and camp a 1 Hour NM Pop and it pops every hour on the hour and I camp it for 5 hours, and no drop falls? I wasted 5 hours of my day. I could have been out gaining XP in a proper XP area with a proper party, Or doing a dynamis run to claim crack fallers to sell off for what ever I can get. Or I could be helping an LS mate climb Delkafutts tower for Rank 4. Or bumrushing them through Castle O for Rank 5. Even if I don't gain anything out of helping I still didn't waste my time because it means more people were on their way to being the same rank as me and we can share other events together.


Sitting in one spot for hours at a time does nothing but waste time.

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And seeing a NM pop every 3-5 mins even if it have a low drop rate would do the same it just a joke :( i think we need a middle ground here but all the casual players taking over. Sadly i know you for a long time but i think this is a big ass joke we need tanaka and yoshi-p working to together to meet somewhere in the middle.

this is not even casual not even wow is this casual lol rare mobs in WoW don't even pop this much you have to do the same thing over and over to see one at times.

Is it end game gear?

Does it break the mold?

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Originally Posted by Moth

Please answer me this Randis are you honestly completely ok with 3 minute repop and like a 50% drop rate?

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I am, because I understand that these NM's are not supposed to be considered on the same Esteem as things like Tiamat. These are Tom-Tit-Tats. You don't intentionally camp them for their drops, they are just random encounter NM's that you go "Oh hey an NM" when you are exploring and kill at your leisure.

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Originally Posted by Visch

Why would anyone hate? Everyone is going to have everything in a month. It's like a waste of time.

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It's rank 30-35 stuff, it wouldn't make the SLIGHTEST sense to make people camp for hours upon hours for something they're going to outlevel in a few days. I'm not sure what part of this is unclear.

I can see the majority of you have absolutely lost your damned minds.

These Notorious Monsters are for low level players who are LEVELING UP. Of course the timers will be low. Get your gear and move along, YOU HAVE MORE LEVELING TO DO.

I'm Surprised you guys are not complaining that its not right for Chests to spawn every time you do a Guild Leve, and they don't require keys.

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Originally Posted by Xalien

I can see the majority of you have absolutely lost your damned minds.

These Notorious Monsters are for low level players who are LEVELING UP. Of course the timers will be low. Get your gear and move along, YOU HAVE MORE LEVELING TO DO.

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o.o at least make them 1-3hours in FFXI we had LL and VE you use up your time to get it and the item last you pretty much too endgame that the type of thing you need in ffxiv. not a pointless item that you can get easy and everyone going to have.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

I am, because I understand that these NM's are not supposed to be considered on the same Esteem as things like Tiamat. These are Tom-Tit-Tats. You don't intentionally camp them for their drops, they are just random encounter NM's that you go "Oh hey an NM" when you are exploring and kill at your leisure.

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Dude, Tom-Tit-Tats makes these nms LOOK like Tiamat. Obviously no one is exploring and killing it at leisure people are freaking out running all over for NMs to kill like it is endgame..

in FFXI they had 1-2 hour timers, but they also were usable for long periods of times, the beastmaster staff, and ninja boots anyone?

As if you guys are complaining.

Don't act as if the worlds ending =D It can be changed.

But they're not even END LEVEL NMs !!!

They aren't going to be dropping end content items =D So you can breathe now.

If the time is that bad, then the time could always be changed to 10 - 30 minutes.

But definitely no higher :S

This is my issue. If the gear is too good, then everyone will be wearing it instead of buying gear. This means that everyone will look the same and crafters will server no purpose.

If the gear was crap, then the timer should be what it is. If the gear is better than crafted gear, they should extend the timer, methinks.'

The repop timer needs to be adjusted to reflect the stats of the gear because we dont want people all wearing the same thing. Do we?

Sooo I know this'll be a dumb question but how does everyone know where all the NM's are already? word of mouth in game with LS? Exploration? I haven't seen any around so far and been looking around the La Noscea area :P Nor would there probably be any posts online with locations yet so just wondering hehe , Thanks!

Edit - NVM there's a posting on general discussion thats gathering locations for em hehe

Short repop is fine, But the drop rate should be .01%. I'd rather kill 1000 mobs to get one drop then sit there doing nothing an equivalent amount of time, then kill one monster for the drop.

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Do you cavemen really not understand? SE is appealing to THE PLAYERS THAT BRING IN THE MOST MONEY. If you don't like, feel free to quit because they won't care.

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Originally Posted by Moth

Dude, Tom-Tit-Tats makes these nms LOOK like Tiamat. Obviously no one is exploring and killing it at leisure people are freaking out running all over for NMs to kill like it is endgame..

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This will happen EVERY time a new monster is released. It will calm down after a week. Its just like when TOAU came out and within three hours everyone on the server was Blue Mage in starting areas standing there letting Crabs blow bubbles at them.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

I am, because I understand that these NM's are not supposed to be considered on the same Esteem as things like Tiamat. These are Tom-Tit-Tats. You don't intentionally camp them for their drops, they are just random encounter NM's that you go "Oh hey an NM" when you are exploring and kill at your leisure.

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I can go sleep now, since I found at least one person that understands it .... thanks.

Man, is it really that hard to understand what Cairdeas is saying? It is not like they implemented Fafnir, Behemoth and other stuff.

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Originally Posted by Warp

THIS

GAME

IS

MEANT

FOR

CASUAL

PLAYERS


Do you cavemen really not understand? SE is appealing to THE PLAYERS THAT BRING IN THE MOST MONEY. If you don't like, feel free to quit because they won't care.

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I am sorry I am for them making it more casual but this is way too far... this makes WoW look hardcore. IF this is your idea of how it should be you should not be playing mmos.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Yes, because you'd rather be bored to death waiting for hours for a mob, and have to ruin it for everyone that doesn't have as much time as you do.

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Gonna go with you on this one ^_^ +1

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

I am sorry I am for them making it more casual but this is way too far... this makes WoW look hardcore. IF this is your idea of how it should be you should not be playing mmos.

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Level 30 content WoW was hard and time consuming? LOL

Do you not understand that these mobs are for the mid levels, and not the R50s... I mean, clearly you can't be this dense... right?

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

I am sorry I am for them making it more casual but this is way too far... this makes WoW look hardcore. IF this is your idea of how it should be you should not be playing mmos.

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I'm sorry, I play Square Enix Games for their Story and Character Customization and Development. I don't play them to fight huge ass monsters and get fat loots. Thats just a side effect of what I normally enjoy.

Not everyone plays to run around and sit around and wait, and then hope a nm pops, and oh wait no its just a place holder.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

This is my issue. If the gear is too good, then everyone will be wearing it instead of buying gear. This means that everyone will look the same and crafters will server no purpose.

If the gear was crap, then the timer should be what it is. If the gear is better than crafted gear, they should extend the timer, methinks.'

The repop timer needs to be adjusted to reflect the stats of the gear because we dont want people all wearing the same thing. Do we?

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Considering the very low drop rate (the ones that are saying 50% are absolutely insane, i killed about 18 already and didn't get a single drop), only the most dedicated will get all the items.

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Originally Posted by Warp

Level 30 content WoW was hard and time consuming? LOL

Do you not understand that these mobs are for the mid levels, and not the R50s... I mean, clearly you can't be this dense... right?

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Not even the rank 50 are hardcore there are jokes too. This game make WoW hardcore game for sure. This is way to casual way way way to casual in my books.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

I am sorry I am for them making it more casual but this is way too far... this makes WoW look hardcore. IF this is your idea of how it should be you should not be playing mmos.

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Quoted for truth. You shouldn't be playing an MMO at all if you need to be spoon-fed so badly.

thank god for behest

You know what OP is right, this game is totally easy mode. All us super-hardcore players who measure our skill in gear and time spent waiting should leave this game now, it's totally stupid mode now. Why waste time with a game that has such fast NM pops?

The OP and his 3 buddies just whine about every goddamn thing. This is level 25 gear for christ's sake, stop crying. A year from now the cap will probably have been raised, and I personally don't wanna spend 3 days getting low level gear that I won't use a week later. I agree that 5min repop is way too fast, but honestly I'm not against something like a 20min repop. What's the damn point of waiting 3hrs for low level gear that's not built to last?

Also, stop comparing NMs like Jormy with this, it's retarded. Jormy was a HNM that was brought into the game years after launch. Were you complaining everytime they added lowbie NMs on XI too? "AMG SE WTF Y THE NM IN RONFAURE IS LEVEL 5 THIS TOO CASUAL" yeah yeah ok buddy, whatever.

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Originally Posted by Visch

Quoted for truth. You shouldn't be playing an MMO at all if you need to be spoon-fed so badly.

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Do you like flexing your e-peen with mid-level gear? Did you enjoy getting hard over your empy's hairpin? What about your leaping boots? LOL @ Your leet linkshell getting emo over lowbie drops.

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Originally Posted by Visch

Quoted for truth. You shouldn't be playing an MMO at all if you need to be spoon-fed so badly.

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And pray tell, who exactly are you to decide who should play a MMO and who shouldn't?

You seem to really think that MMOs are serious business lol.

I would like to know how you are getting "50%" drop rate, because I'm not seeing that.

This stuff is for LOWER LEVELS, droping items for LOWER LEVELS, and CAN'T EVEN BE TRADED.

You want this on a 24 hour spawn?

Isn't much different than a dungeon monster really, drop rate is low so I see no problem with it.

It's not like the gear it drops is all that good anyway, only piece I want is the robe the sheep drops and thats only cause it looks nice.

it's only 30% of the patch dunno why you're all acting crazy

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Originally Posted by Warp

THIS

GAME

IS

MEANT

FOR

CASUAL

PLAYERS


Do you cavemen really not understand? SE is appealing to THE PLAYERS THAT BRING IN THE MOST MONEY. If you don't like, feel free to quit because they won't care.

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Most Casual players play a game for 3 months then quit. SE will make no money.

heh well no ones gone after spitfire for about a hour now, I'm sitting near him waiting for party to see if I can join while idle crafting.

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Originally Posted by Warp

Do you like flexing your e-peen with mid-level gear? Did you enjoy getting hard over your empy's hairpin? What about your leaping boots? LOL @ Your leet linkshell getting emo over lowbie drops.

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hey i wish we had empy's hairpin and leaping boots here.

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

I would like to know how you are getting "50%" drop rate, because I'm not seeing that.

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They're pulling it out of the wrong orifice, as usual.

The drop rate isn't over 5%, that's for pretty damn sure. I'm on my 20th kill, zero drops