Scholar So Far

im enjoying sch, i throw out heals when tank gets low otherwise i act like a dd and let my fairy do what it wants, sometimes i dont even pay attention to my teams hp... no one dies though, i almost feel like sch is a little overpowered but thats fine with me, im sure once the game has been out a while and some jobs get broken there will probably be a nerf

I also observe one issue with the fairy, and that is some recast times. The aoe regen and magic defense recast times should be a bit shorter imo. Scholar itself only has one AOE heal of 150 cure potency with the shield.

I still enjoy SCH much more than WHM however.

And incase anyone didn't realize this, Arcanist, SCH, and SMN can raise during battle from the moment they get their resurrect spell. I for one am glad they didn't exclude them from combat raising, because that would be one major point of imbalance.

I hope they fix on the commands / auto on the fairies. If you want to command manually the fairies you can disable its Auto. Its a bad thing that Fairies cast it freely. Even i put the hotbar but still it acts freely. I hope they should address this issue.

Im saying to myself what is the sense of having a Command buttons for pet if they act freely on its own.

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Try to reconfigure the AI of the fairies. If the party has 60% HP then cast the AOE heal. I really hoping to fix it but overall Im getting to like the SCH

from what I've seen for the first couple dungeons you can do after getting access to scholar it feels way overpowered because the damage isn't very intense and the fairy can almost do it by herself

but after that the fairies can get pretty unreliable
they just spot heal whoever is lowest, including pets, and go auto mode by themself after their first spell use
they seem to pretty often just derp out and do nothing even after giving them a command they'll fly over cast a heal then fly back to you and do nothing again
there is no way to make them focus like sic and obey just don't work for them

this is a problem since scholar heals are purposefully weaker because the fairy healing is supposed to fill in the gap
I feel it will be something worked on soon though, the pet bar needs a lot of work in general imo it has a lot of superfluous stuff that could just be remedied with auto-toggles on the individual skills and fairies need different commands altogether

Other than that scholar seems totally fine
I find it weird that at 38 my scholar has more int than mnd even wearing a few pieces of mind jewelery
the charge system i find very cool having access to what are basically supercharged spells with instant off global cooldown casts

For me the pet AI just kills it, the poster above me sums up my thoughts about it.


I also don't get why you are not getting a free talent reset once you hit the soul or why our trades boost intelligence.
In general I find the scholar lacking, fun at start but giving it a closer look it's meh.

It's a strong job though and the gimmicks like buffs and a 90% damage reduction (not sure what the cd will be) will mean they bring a lot on the table for a 24 man raid.
Being able to coordinate with another scholar and pretty much keep one buff 100% on the raid is huge, borderline op.
I also think the buff fairy might be the better choice in most fights raid wise.

White mages are there to heal up the raid, they can do that a lot better.
How ever when you have incoming damage the scholar can pre shield, when that's not going on they can just spam the tank.
The shield buffer on the tank makes damage less spiky.


It's a gimmick healer and a good one, but I think I will prefer the white mage more.

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Originally Posted by Reika

I also observe one issue with the fairy, and that is some recast times. The aoe regen and magic defense recast times should be a bit shorter imo. Scholar itself only has one AOE heal of 150 cure potency with the shield.

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I feel like the SCH's lack of AoE healing potency is the only real reason to play a WHM at this point. If you did buff Scholar's AoE healing, I can't fathom why anyone would want to play a WHM instead. They're god awful boring and have some really poorly designed mechanics (Overcure & Stoneskin in particular).

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Originally Posted by Draemos

I feel like the SCH's lack of AoE healing potency is the only real reason to play a WHM at this point. If you did buff Scholar's AoE healing, I can't fathom why anyone would want to play a WHM instead. They're god awful boring and have some really poorly designed mechanics (Overcure & Stoneskin in particular).

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Choice, of course. The only reason to pick one over the other should be player preference. If you have to pick one because it does this better, or is overall a better class, then their balancing is fail. Scholar doesn't even have as powerful of a single target regen that WHM does, and Medica II can easily be seen as overkill when you compare it to what scholar has for AOE healing ability.

WHM AOE spells Medica, Cure III, and Medica II which has a regen as its after effect. I think the Fairies aoe regen could see a much shorter cooldown based on this, and maybe Succor should be 200 potency instead of 150.

had a terrible time with the first boss of AV as SCH. fairy seems basicly useless on it and our only AoE heal isn't really that great (mp costs are kinda high). Sure practice might change that but I'm sure I'd would have been much easier as whm.
I do like Sacred Soil though.
And yes the fairy is too random sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Sneakaboo

It's a strong job though and the gimmicks like buffs and a 90% damage reduction (not sure what the cd will be) will mean they bring a lot on the table for a 24 man raid.

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Creates a designated area in which party members will only suffer 90% of all damage inflicted. Read the tool tip again.

Read completely over that, that sounds kind of lacklustre.

The fairy definitely needs to not use skills automatically like they do. I don't like how the fairy will just throw out the AOE regen and magic damage reduction before anyone else even takes damage or any kind of magic damage. I don't mind them putting the Healing potency increase on me automatically tho... but I know that one can be easily macroed to be placed on yourself even if you are targeting someone else.

About the randomness tho, I have noticed that the fairy will usually immediately heal a person that is not your target when they take damage, but it is always with the DPS of the party, and sometimes it doesn't get on the ball with the tank. You also have to be within a good range of that person, so I always try to stay closer to people so the fairy will do their thing. It does have randomness to it tho.

The lvl45 skill also I agree is too weak. They make it sound strong, but it is really just a 10% damage reduction.


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I'm not trying to super buff the heal potency of Scholars shield heals. 200 potency from 150 on succor would be nothing considering the MP cost of it, and that they get no other aoe spell after that, so Medica II beats the death out of that spell since it comes with regen attached to it.

If you played WoW, you should know you can run a dungeon or raid with all one class of healer if you so chose to. They are actually balanced there. You can run with all shaman who's the damage preventer, or you can run with all Paladin who are all about big heals. Burning Crusade was a time where there was X is better for Y, but that all died with Wrath, and further died with Cataclysm. They all obtained their specific ways of tackling the same objective, whether it be single target or multi target healing.

You can balance Damage shielder with Direct healer. Neither of them should have crappy regens or crappy aoe tho, and WHM has both the greater direct heal numbers and the greater regen ability, and I fear at end-game the lack of good regen will greatly hurt the scholor balance-wise. 50 potency regen @ 60 second recast is crap compared to both 200 potency direct with 100 potency regen @2.5s recast and 150 potency direct instant cast regen @2.5s recast. You don't need to get to 50 with both to see those numbers are extremely unbalanced. The fairies also do it whenever the hell they feel like it, and you do not even notice the difference.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Choice, of course. The only reason to pick one over the other should be player preference. If you have to pick one because it does this better, or is overall a better class, then their balancing is fail. Scholar doesn't even have as powerful of a single target regen that WHM does, and Medica II can easily be seen as overkill when you compare it to what scholar has for AOE healing ability.

WHM AOE spells Medica, Cure III, and Medica II which has a regen as its after effect. I think the Fairies aoe regen could see a much shorter cooldown based on this, and maybe Succor should be 200 potency instead of 150.

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No, the choice between absorbs and Regen/hots is not just a matter of preference, they are completely different mechanics that are not equally effective.
In all MMOs I played in the alst 10 years or so, Regen/hot has nearly always been the weakest, most unreliable form of healing. Absorbs, if available, have nearly always been the best.

In WoW, there was a time when hots were very useful, but that wasn't because of the way HoTs work, it was because they were much, much cheaper to cast than comparable regular heals/absorbs.


The main problem with HoTs is this: They suck in fights with lots of burst damage and they are risky to use to their full potential. Why would anyone use a HoT to slowly regenerate somwone from 50% to full when a regular heal will do it instantly, as long as the mana costs are similar? During the time the hot slowly heals the player, he/she could easily catch another aoe that kills them because they were not fully healed.

The thing that makes absorbs so good is that you can heal damage before it is dealt. When the healer knows the boss mechanics, this is incredibly useful. Big aoe coming? Place a few shields on the raid. Tanks catching a healing debuff? Place a shield. Some DPS need to move out of healing range for whatever reason? Place a shield. You could place a regen on these DPS too, but with a regen, their health bars will drop lower, which means they'll be at a much greater risk of dying to the next random ae.

We don't know yet how healing at max level will work, but I'm 100% sure that, if the numbers are roughly equal, absorb healing will be considerably more effective than regen/hot healing, and not a matter of player preference.



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The Pet heals isn't really a big amount for the SCH anyway so u don't really need it. The pet however does other moves which increases ur spell rate etc.. So having it on auto is the best anyway. If u cant heal alone without the need for pet u proberally shoulnt be a healer. The pet as well Eos has a healing ability to be able to make your heals 20% more effective in later levels. So the pet is a great help also being on AUTO. Also when u take AoE damage which on a lot of boss fights everyone takes AoE cant be helped your healing pet will automatically start healing you so u can concentrate on the party. Also another AUTO ability. So why do u want it to heal single targets?

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Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont

had a terrible time with the first boss of AV as SCH. fairy seems basicly useless on it and our only AoE heal isn't really that great (mp costs are kinda high). Sure practice might change that but I'm sure I'd would have been much easier as whm.
I do like Sacred Soil though.
And yes the fairy is too random sometimes.

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Definitely the worst boss as a scholar so far. What can help is having Quickcast from THM to resummon a fairy instantly, but I don't have that yet nor knows if it works on summons(assume it does though). Still didn't have an issue healing it even though our DPS was low due to tank being fairly bad at threat(DPS were threat capped). Just Physick everyone in a chain and Succor the tank back to full every rotation, and make sure everyone eats fruits at 2 stacks of the poison, not later(and quickly do so at 2 stacks), so aoe damage is fairly low. Succor II when you have mana too as long as you can hit everyone with it.


A lot of other fights I'd say SCH has a big advantage over WHM however. Like on Titan how your fairy keeps healing even if you get stone blocked while your DPS get you out, or on most fights how your fairy keeps healing the tank for a solid amount even when you have to run around avoiding stuff. Also quite often you can activate Rouse then Succor I everyone in your group in preparation for a big aoe or something, that's like 400hp absorb shields on everyone. While WHM can Stoneskin people for similar amounts, it's a longer cast and they can't keep the tank up at the same time so it's fairly risky but a Roused fairy has no issue unless it's one of the high damage boss(but then their aoe tends to be weaker).

Mostly biggest downside of SCH is the aoe healing, but no fight so far require strong constant aoe healing, it's generally just one aoe then a 20secs time to top people off before next one, so it's very easy to handle with one Succor II then letting the fairy top everyone off while you Succor I the tank/Physick people up too. Hell you can probably Succor II 3times for every aoe, and still have mana to go due to how good Aetherflow+Energy Drain is.

Although I've only done the lower damage I think players are expecting the fairy to actually heal for them on the side and the ai to be that smart. But pet AI is almost never that smart in most games. Just putting the fairies abilities on your bar can create a huge difference in experience. PS they should make a mode that allows the fairy to not use the different abilities so that you can micromanage it better. I'd rather play a second character than have the AI go on its own. Overall I love the Scholar.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Choice, of course. The only reason to pick one over the other should be player preference.

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This might be relevant if WHM's shoved off a ton of their MP usage onto a pet, had a 20% mana regen on a minute cooldown, and had a mana leach spell on top of it. SCH already has a ton of upside, lets not pretend like the MP inefficient Regen spell, which is more than made up for by you're Fairies embrace (which is also free MP) is enough to make up for all the SCHs upside. And lets not even get into your 30s 30% buffs; which are exceptionally strong. The AoE healing & repose is the only reason I'd bring a WHM over a SCH.

Listen, I'm not trying to get in a pissing contest, but right now there is just very little reason to play a WHM over a SCH. I'm extremely tempted to play SCH just based on raw potential of mechanics alone, and that's not a good sign for balance.

For me, the two things that would make SCH competitive with WHM are:
1) Change Fairy AI to not switch from steady to guard upon issuing a command to her, and
2) Make pet abilities macro'able.

With these two changes giving us more control over the pet that is responsible for 1/3 or more of our raw healing power, we would be on equal footing with WHM. The potential is there, and it is fantastic. We just need the tools.

Just dropping my two cents in.

I just healed Sunken Temple and Titan last night and did extremely well. I had zero mana issues and no one died. Loving the class, and loving being able to pre-shield the group. I really think some of you are overlooking how effective absorb healing really is.

To be clear: I'm not arguing against better pet ai/control.

I concur with OP, there needs to be a way to set ALL pets to full manual. Since she uses the 2 cd's she has as soon as they come of CD, its a pain, since I'd rather her use them in moments i deem them useful. (especially end game this will be problematic as it's essentially wasting 2 really good skills that would be more useful in specific situations)

I used scholar once to run the level 30 dungeon and had a really bad time of it (couldn't beat it after like 8 tries). The heals are just too weak, I had to constantly spam psykik then aldo then psykik then aldo over and over, and even then I just BARELY kept up, not to mention on the boss my mp would run out before he died almost every time, even with aetherflow and energy drain and the archer skill that regens mana. It wasnt that I was inefficient either, again I HAD to spam the skills over and over just to keep the tank from dying, not once in the whole dungeon could I take my eyes off the party bar. The fairy helped Im sure but I didnt have any time to manage it

Also I noticed I couldn't redo my point distribution, I dumped all my points into intelligence with Arcanist and it carried over to Scholar so my heals are weaker than they could be


So what is it, am I just sucky and missing something, is there a more powerful heal I can get with Scholar? Should I always use Alsoquiuim and never Psykik? Was that boss (level 30 dungeon boss) just particularly hard? I really want to give the class another try and would appreciate feedback from a more experienced player

Ok I got a noob question. I know different roles use different armor. Like melee dps use one set and ranged dps use a different one. I also know that healers use the same sets as ranged dps ( could be wrong ). But what I would like to know is that do smn and sch use that same set of armor. If not can you please tell me why so that I may better understand it.

I stopped caring about timing the pet AoE heal honestly because of the mode switching, and I find it's better to spam Embrace on the tank to conserve as much MP as possible, Embrace activates exactly at <70% HP, lowest HP get's higher priority as far as I can tell (unless enmity plays part in priority), the % is very low imo if I could I would have set it at <100% meaning any hit will make the pet start healing immediately since the heal is low (not much over-healing) and the most important..it cost no MP whatsoever!, which is what I'm doing right now, spamming Embrace until the tank get's low enough for me to waste my MP, and it's been good so far.

I just got Succor, I've yet to try it but since I already given up on SCH AoE healing, we are more or less like paladins in WoW, we will rely on direct healing to heal the party, so spell speed and Crit hit for shield will probably be higher priority stats for us.

To FrionielHope


I think you are missing something, or most likly you had bad tank. While I did lvl as arcanist I felt overpowered with my own tank and heal but after I got my Scholar soul it got even more out of hand. Fairy have no mana so she pump those heals nonstop and with good tank she can keep up alone for the most part so I just spread my dots around. Only when there is a lot of aoe dmg or tank have 3+ mobs on him in dungeons I have to heal too. I think many people forget that even if scholar don't get aoe heal until later we get twice as many single target heals and that make up for lack of aoe heal plus where white mage have to think about mana we can just keep going, also all bosses do long animations before aoe hits so cast Alsoquiuim on somebody before aoe hit and you will have 1 less person to think about.

Don't give up, if you like healing scholars are fine and it is only 5 levels before you get aoe heal anyway. I did Titan without aoe heal and had no problem to keep party topped at all time with mix of level 24-28 gear. You also should learn how fairy heals so you know who she is going to heal next and when. Her ai is quite simple she will heal lowest %hp target in range first and she does not cast heal if it will bring target over 90% hp or so, so she never top off people.

P.S. Nerf limit on post length

After playing for a few days, let's go over some points.

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Originally Posted by Lillpapps

My feelings about the job:
Adloquium is pretty much useless in its current state. It's so ineffective. It costs so much mana for so little healing (even including the shield).

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Adloquium has exactly same effective healing as Cure II and even more when you crit, as the shield potency doubles. You're supposed to use it when you need more healing than Physick can provide in a single GCD, not just randomly for the shield.

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Originally Posted by Lillpapps

The fairy control is horrible. Why can't we control it while we cast spells? What is the point of having a pet if you can't control it and have to leave it on auto to not feel like you are wasting too much healing.

Embrace have a 3 second recast time. This is longer than most casts so if you are casting DoT's or Heals on every GCD you will lose out on so much healing from the pet if you have it on manual.

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Leaving fairy on Steady and only giving it move commands seems to work pretty well. The pet starts to heal automagically around 75% HP, and you can manually cast the other skills when needed. You will never actually nede to manually tell the pet to heal someone. My only wish would be to be able to tell them to focus only on tank or something. And being able to issue pet commands while casting, of course.

Overall, I don't really have problems controlling the pet now that I'm used to it.

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Originally Posted by Lillpapps

I don't know what the devs were thinking not giving us Leeches until lvl 40... Not being able to cleanse debuffs from atleast the tank can be quite devastating.

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Would be nice to get it earlier, but I haven't encountered anything where I really needed it.

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Originally Posted by YinShi

So Windquake, when you get the scholar soul you should get a huge boost to your mind. This will help with healing although lower level gear is associated with intelligence for Arcanists. Also I see a lot of people who try to use there spells and then wait to use the fairy heals. The best thing to do is have their heals on your bar (drag it from your actions tab under pets) and use their heal first and then yours. You can cast while they are casting, so just got to manage it that way for now. Did Haukke manor and everyone was surprised at how overpowered the healing was.

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You pretty much never need to order your pet to heal a spesific target manually from what I've experienced.

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Originally Posted by Slayerxx

im enjoying sch, i throw out heals when tank gets low otherwise i act like a dd and let my fairy do what it wants, sometimes i dont even pay attention to my teams hp... no one dies though, i almost feel like sch is a little overpowered but thats fine with me, im sure once the game has been out a while and some jobs get broken there will probably be a nerf

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The fairy is a pretty awesome healer, yes; I healed Toto-rak with the fairy only, and casted only five Physicks that run. I think only one of them was at the last boss.

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Originally Posted by Reika

I also observe one issue with the fairy, and that is some recast times. The aoe regen and magic defense recast times should be a bit shorter imo. Scholar itself only has one AOE heal of 150 cure potency with the shield.

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Not really. You can heal the group up very fast with single target heals with your fairy. Your raw healing output is surprisingly big. Sure, if you only need to cast AoE heals, WHM wins, but it hasn't been a problem for me so far.

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Originally Posted by Nihility

from what I've seen for the first couple dungeons you can do after getting access to scholar it feels way overpowered because the damage isn't very intense and the fairy can almost do it by herself

but after that the fairies can get pretty unreliable
they just spot heal whoever is lowest, including pets, and go auto mode by themself after their first spell use
they seem to pretty often just derp out and do nothing even after giving them a command they'll fly over cast a heal then fly back to you and do nothing again
there is no way to make them focus like sic and obey just don't work for them

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I've never seen my fairy heals pets. Never. Only herself when she gets low enough. Tell your pet to stay still, so she can focus on healing and not following you around.

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Originally Posted by Reika

The fairy definitely needs to not use skills automatically like they do. I don't like how the fairy will just throw out the AOE regen and magic damage reduction before anyone else even takes damage or any kind of magic damage. I don't mind them putting the Healing potency increase on me automatically tho... but I know that one can be easily macroed to be placed on yourself even if you are targeting someone else.

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Put pet on Steady, will only use her heal.

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Originally Posted by Reika

About the randomness tho, I have noticed that the fairy will usually immediately heal a person that is not your target when they take damage, but it is always with the DPS of the party, and sometimes it doesn't get on the ball with the tank. You also have to be within a good range of that person, so I always try to stay closer to people so the fairy will do their thing. It does have randomness to it tho.

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Micro your pet; move her to a good position, and don't just let her follow you. You're supposed to control your fairy and not just ignore her position.

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Originally Posted by Reika

The lvl45 skill also I agree is too weak. They make it sound strong, but it is really just a 10% damage reduction.

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It's AoE, and the duration isn't too bad, so it's pretty decent. You can't really increase the damage reduction without decresing its duration or radius.

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Originally Posted by Tanknspank

The Pet heals isn't really a big amount for the SCH anyway so u don't really need it. The pet however does other moves which increases ur spell rate etc.. So having it on auto is the best anyway. If u cant heal alone without the need for pet u proberally shoulnt be a healer. The pet as well Eos has a healing ability to be able to make your heals 20% more effective in later levels. So the pet is a great help also being on AUTO. Also when u take AoE damage which on a lot of boss fights everyone takes AoE cant be helped your healing pet will automatically start healing you so u can concentrate on the party. Also another AUTO ability. So why do u want it to heal single targets?

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Wrong. A free 300 potency heal every 3 seconds is huge.

I won't bother to repeat the merits of Scholar healing or how awesome Eos is as others have already explained these things in greater detail than I believe that I could. I will summarize, though, that the job is fantastic at healing. The most recent dungeon that I've run as a healer was The Sunken Temple of Qarn (which is a surprisingly difficult dungeon compared to its predecessors) and I have yet to have difficulty in keeping up on heals while also placing DoTs. Many of the issues addressed above can be resolved by careful pet management, which has also been covered above. What I will say is that I also ran The Sunken Temple as Summoner with a SCH healer...we died...a lot...so, I'm willing to concede that the job may require a lot of focus and micro-management. Or maybe that SCH needed more practice.
As a side note: The SCH quest line seems like it was just thrown together as an afterthought when compared to the SMN quest line. I won't say more as I don't want to spoil anything.

Tl;dr to aboves: "I'm ok with everything" /gotcha.

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Tl;dr to aboves: "I'm ok with everything" /gotcha.

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Basically this but the questline has been disappointing. Also, the switch of emphasis to MND after 30 levels of placing attribute points into INT and in spite of us receiving Enhanced Intelligence traits seems odd. These are my only issues.

But generally "I'm ok with everything".

Well that wasn't really directed at you, but to those who it was, they know who I'm talking about. "I'm ok with everything" posts are easy to spot. Sometimes I feel like stopping my playtime to come into the forums to tell everyone I'm ok with everything too, but I dont, because i'm not. That also wouldn't make sense, because I would be loving everything so much I wouldn't bother with the forums ;)

I took no offense. Even though I was going for something else, I can see how my post could be summarized as "I'm ok with everything" so it wouldn't very reasonable to be offended. :)

On another note, I'm sitting at work and wondering about Cleric Stance from CNJ. Has anyone gotten any experience with placing their attribute points predominantly into MND and making use of this ability when placing DoTs? I originally wrote it off because of the -20% healing effectiveness as I was only looking at it for swapping out a high INT for low MND when healing. I haven't got much experience with it so I'm just curious about the potential.

I'm a little confused on this thread, people are calling out issues on Scholar that I've had no issues with whatsoever up to level 38.

I've wiped once in a dungeon - mostly due to not understanding a boss mechanic. Take that out, I've never wiped in a dungeon at all. I've also never had an issue with mana, and furthermore I've used TWO MP Ethers the *entire time I've played the game*.

What is all of this about how our spells cost too much? Don't spam skills, it's not hard. Every party I'm in is impressed with the scholar as a healer.

The fairy control doesn't matter much to me. Yes, she sort of does her thing but it's usually helpful. I'm able to watch who she is targeting and react accordingly. I see no compelling reason to micromanage her.

I personally love the Scholar. Bane is wonderful for AoE, Ruin II is great for minor DPS (can't complain about the blind add effect either).

While I agree that the Faerie is fine on her own. I don't see why people don't micromanage her. I don't see a problem with the class, again stating I love playing the class. But being able to pre-heal big hits is important for me, and being able to pick and choose who my faerie is going to heal is as well. I prioritze my heals if everyone is taking damage and so being able to choose my targets is important. I've healed dungeon bosses that should have been wipes due to lack of knowledge on fights so I in no way feel I'm underpowered. I love the healing, but for someone who has a little bit of an OCD tendency, I like to manage everything my character is capable of. Again, minor tweaks, and this class will be perfect in my mind, and FFXIV healing is leaps and bounds more fun than other dungeons because of having to use the pet and placement being important :)

man im starting to feel like an idiot for leveling my conj to 30 and going white mage instead of going scholar... sigh.

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Originally Posted by frychikn

man im starting to feel like an idiot for leveling my conj to 30 and going white mage instead of going scholar... sigh.

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WHM are solid, and when shit hits the fan their healing throughput shatters what scholars are capable of (at a massive MP cost). But they aren't much fun to play sadly... And some of their mechanics are plain stupid (ie Overcure)

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Originally Posted by frychikn

man im starting to feel like an idiot for leveling my conj to 30 and going white mage instead of going scholar... sigh.

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Same here. I am going to level up my Scholar as well. No point in playing an inferior class. The good news is I am sure they will either buff Conj or Nerf Scholar but balance changes are usually a long time coming.

ya i dont expect any quick balance changes, especially from square. my friend made a summoner, maybe sooner or later he will want to be a healer then i can just go level a bard or something.... dont really want to play a 2nd class citizen

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Originally Posted by frychikn

ya i dont expect any quick balance changes, especially from square. my friend made a summoner, maybe sooner or later he will want to be a healer then i can just go level a bard or something.... dont really want to play a 2nd class citizen

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I noticed your avatar says you're a level 17 Conjurer (although I know it's not accurate as it doesn't reflect my class/job correctly when I post, idk why). I just thought I'd mention that Conjurer to level 34 is actually still useful for a Scholar as it allows you to use Stoneskin.... So it's not wasted at all, if you were thinking of switching jobs to Scholar.

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I was in a group that one shot Garuda last night with me healing as Scholar. Incredibly fun fight.. Rouse is amazing.

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Originally Posted by Maku

While casting the master is concentrating on the spell at hand in general magic mythology even brief moment of interruption would cause failure. You can't point at a monster to order an attack if you are focusing power. You can't scream "SIC 'EM" if you are chanting. It is simply how things work. Would I be turned off if they let us control during other action? No.

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As a ACN dpser, I saw a healer gain healing aggro on a boss crab's minions in Costa Del Sol. I have AoE offensive spells so I can't take them all off her but I couldn't sic my carbuncle on them either while in mid cast and every second counts. Role Playing or not, some of us need to multitask for the safety of our group, and to change the target for our pets on a whim. This really is a pain, albeit bearable. I don't normally play a pet class but when I do I hotkey attack and stop for my pet so whatever mob I choose needs to do as it's told.

I originally had Scholar as my goal...but I actually got addicted to WHM levelling for Stoneskin...so now I just want to level ACN for Eye for an Eye skill.

White Mage does have a few things that are nicer than Scholar....Repose for example and Fluid Aura are great crowd control skills. But....

Freecure is nothing like the Scholar's Procs....it always activates when you don't need it lol. And if you plan on saving the proc...and start using it when it nearly expires (when you might need to) it still uses the MP.

And at the moment THM acts as a good cross-class for both but it doesn't have the utility CNJ and ACN both offer; dot's debuffs and heals...which is a shame xD

I healed Brayflox as SCH last night..not fun. It all went fine until the final boss we took 3 tries to kill. The lack of a way to remove poisons really hurt, I had to give up placing my fairy because I spent too much time moving her out of poison and not enough healing, worked better just chasing the tank around.

Probably would've gone better if the DDs didnt keep standing in the poison making me have to heal them as well. Whenever I stopped spam healing the tank, he nearly died.

I imagine once I have succor and leeches it will be smoother, was still fun though