No EA for V1.0's?

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Originally Posted by ispano

Slightly wrong, Legacy does not get CE items if they didn't have the 1.0 CE already. There are Legacy with 1.0 Standard.They could of course digital upgrade or get the PS3 CE, but they don't get it automatically.



As did everyone else, and all the pre-order perks for 1.0 were given out when 1.0 released, in 2010. So no, it's quite valid.



Just a warning, and it seems you might already know. Having 1.0 means you have a PC Code on your account already, and you cannot apply the game code you bought to your account if it is PC. Pre-order code works fine however.

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So to clarify:

As a 1.0 CE player (but not Legacy) I get the new CE stuff but not the EA? I don't mind since I am at the cottage this weekend. Would be nice for others though.

I find the Tuesday release date weird though.

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Nevermind, Hussler's post cleared everything up!

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Originally Posted by Nix

This.

People need to understand the difference between 'bitching' and 'mentioning'.
I don't want to see these forums turn into the cesspool that beta forums were; please people, if you don't have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all.

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1.0 Lodestone forums are basically the same as well - It's the same group of people that immediately thinks someone is bitching and feel the need to attack anything that moves.

I am torn about the suggestion myself. I on one hand think that most of these people are likely ones who dropped 1.0 early on. Though that thought should not sway my opinion I am something of a loyalty oriented person and feel its sorta like leaving someone to dry and then coming back when they found gold.

From the completely opinionated approach I think they should have had early access, though from the same approach I do not see 3 days being too drastic. I believe the subscription perks and Items were enough for me and my fellow legacy members who showed loyalty. so outside my personal qualms of loyalty I do think they should have early access. I think anyone who purchased the game should have that right.

That's what you got from leaving the game when it has a hard time.

Welcome back, FFXIV:ARR Beta Forums General Discussion, we missed you.

1.0 CE pre-order owner here (non legacy), and there's a couple things you guys seem to be forgetting, FF14 1.0 was a defective product it was canceled and recalled (canceled) after plenty of people complained and the company admitted it was a bad product that put to a shame all the FF franchise (really don't need to elaborate more about this, you all know what happened). Thankfully SqE is a honorable company that decided to "fix" the product and offer to their fans a decent rework of the game, and now (thank you SqE i <3 you) we have 2.0.

I couldn't play the game more than a couple weeks after the initial release cause it was near unplayable for me and totally did not deserved the subscription that they were asking at the time, almost 15 euros iirc, i was emailed with the information that i could play for free after a couple months and even that wasn't enough for me to come back to a game that was simply broken and subpar compared with the other on the market.

Is it fair to not give old pre-order players the same perks new pre orders have? big no
Do i care? not really , ill wait 3 more days no biggy , waited years already lol

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Originally Posted by ispano

No, I think you have issues understanding. As much as people want to think it's the same game, to validate your argument, it's too different to be so.

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It's the game I payed money for all those years ago, it's irrational to say it's not. This is a fixed version of that broken version of the game, not a new game. That's why it's called version 2.0.

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Originally Posted by ispano

I pre-ordered the 1.0 CE, I got early access in 2010 for 1.0. I do not, at all, expect them to give it to me now. It's childish to think you deserve it just for buying the game back then.

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Lol! It's childish to expect to get early access with the pre-order people when I already bought the game years ago? Really? That's a ridiculous thing to say.


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Originally Posted by ispano

But it's okay that someone bought 1.0 for $5 after the fact, not even a pre-order, and should get Early Access to 2.0?

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They spent money on the old awful version of the game and helped support development of the new version, so yes, they do deserve to play the game even if they got a better deal than you. Get over it.

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Originally Posted by ispano

The game is a blur between a new game and a rebuilt game, but the line has been drawn, and it's enough of a new game to invalidate your "wants"

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Again, it's a new version of the same game we all bought years ago. You're just being an entitled elitist brat.

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They should have never given it to Legacy either and kept it simply for pre-ordering. It's unfair to add things to Legacy after it's no longer obtainable; people made their decisions then based on the benefits they told everyone about at that time.

Not that three days is a big deal either way, but still.

http://www.g2play.net/store/

Sells early access keys for anyone that was a 1.0 player but isnt legacy and/or doesnt wanna buy the whole game again.

I'm proud to pre-order the game and pay again. The devs deserve support after working so hard to turn a failed game into something awesome. I'd have even got another collector's edition (that artbook looks AMAZING) but I was running short on money.

chances are if your not legacy you didnt even finish the first month.
theres some non-legacys that came late and stayed but it was tolate for them.

legacys gave SE the benefit of the doubt.

when others jumped on the hate bandwagons.

I'm 1.0. I paid for the game three years ago, played it and had to stop because... well, we know why. My point is do we 1.0 people deserve EA? No. And here's why... if you are coming into 2.0 new, you (at bare minimum) spent $39.99 for the PS3 version and $29.99 for the PC version. Pre-ordering got you EA. It's an incentive to, let's face it, give SE some extra money. Personally, I can't stand EA because EVERYBODY tries for it, it creates congestion and redemption issues, etc. and login issues. But if you paid for it, then you get it. But to get it, you had to buy the game. 1.0 players, on the other hand, can't start until Tuesday, which probably bites to some, but... all we have to do is log in. We get the game for free because technically, we already bought it three years ago. And we also get two weeks of free play. Sure, it doesn't sound nearly as cool as, say, early access, but really, we kind sorta played this game three years before anyone else and we got to keep our levels, gil and the items that carried over, plus anything we did during Beta P4 is being carried over to release on top of the progress we already had stored AND if we decide to upgrade to CE status, it's $20 instead of the $50-$80 everyone else has to pay, so if you think about it, new 2.0 players getting early access is kind of a nice gesture because the reality is that compared to what we got (and let's not forget Legacy benefits), they got a friendly punch in the face

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Originally Posted by Tsukino

They should have never given it to Legacy either and kept it simply for pre-ordering. It's unfair to add things to Legacy after it's no longer obtainable; people made their decisions then based on the benefits they told everyone about at that time.

Not that three days is a big deal either way, but still.

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Maybe I'm reading this wrong.. but legacy players aren't legacy because of they offered exclusive gifts from being a legacy player. Most of us was eligible before they even announced the whole thing. It was more of a thank you to the people who still supported the game through the bad times, not an incentive to get people back.

If you live in germany, you can buy a stand-alone preorder code in some shops for 5€.
Only the code, with no game.

i'm a 1.0 non legacy, preordered the non CE. i played for maybe 2 months and i just couldn't do it anymore. it was boring. i'd like to get the EA but meh oh well, it sucks but that's just how it is. i'll deal with it and just have to wait till release day, just sucks cause i was hoping to play on my days off whereas now it'll be during the middle of my work week ><

(btw no i don't feel entitled to anything just cause i bought the game originally, i chose not to pay a monthly fee for a half assed game. my decision, not SE's. doesn't mean that i still don't wish i could play though lol.)

its like 20$ on amazon with the 10$ credit off...... thats less then 2 long islands top shelf.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Yes, he wasn't demanding it. However... like many other topics, it has been beaten to death repeatedly. Outside of that, someone else replied and started up with his reasonings to have it, so others responded with the opposition.

Lastly, the line "If you don't have anything nice to say..." would restrict people. Mainly because what one person considers nice or not, is not the same for everyone. So one person could simply say it's not nice, you shouldn't have said that. Even if the person had no hostile intent whatsoever.

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Sorry Ispano, my comment wasn't directed at you, more toward the community as a whole.

When I say "If you can't say something nice. . ." Yes, someone could easily take offense to some of the stuff that's read but my aim was all the vitriolic postings that are written up in these forums, and not limited to this thread alone.

There's a difference between saying "No, I don't believe someone should have this because. . ." and "OMG you entitled n00b u shud just buy the gaem! lol"

If people spent less time being snarky and more time helping eachother out, we'd get a lot further. In another thread earlier today, it took nearly 2 pages for the OP to get the answer he was looking for, the first posts revolved around "OMG ur lazy" "Why don't you learn to read?" etc. It would have taken less time for them to type the answer to his question than it would have for them to think of something venomous to say and then write that.

This is what I'm getting at when I wish the community would think a little before they post. I wish people would just answer the OP's question or give a non-vitriolic and well thought out answer to things instead of spewing hate. It makes us look bad as a whole when people resort to that kind of thing. :(

Well ideally with the post limit people will be less likely to waste posts being snarky. However, people will be less likely to give answers to what they perceive to be stupid questions.

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Originally Posted by GrimMaar

Well ideally with the post limit people will be less likely to waste posts being snarky. However, people will be less likely to help people get answers to what they presume to be stupid questions.

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Haha one would hope that the snarky guys would post less, I really don't want this to turn into another Beta Forums fiasco D:

Have a wonderful day Grim :)

If they already own the game why would they pre order again? I think it's unfair to not give 1.0 early access :(

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Originally Posted by Nix

Haha one would hope that the snarky guys would post less, I really don't want this to turn into another Beta Forums fiasco D:

Have a wonderful day Grim :)

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You also! Happy hunting!

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Originally Posted by Vaer

Welcome back, FFXIV:ARR Beta Forums General Discussion, we missed you.

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I'm surprised it took this long for one of these threads to pop up actually.

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Originally Posted by kowala

If they already own the game why would they pre order again? I think it's unfair to not give 1.0 early access :(

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I see it as lame that they couldn't incorporate some kind of EA for 1.0 via a digital upgrade prior to launch as opposed to having to pre-order a new copy of something we get for free anyway. But I don't see not giving us 1.0 players EA as unfair. As I stated earlier, we actually are getting the better deal here if one looks at it from the initial launch three years ago.

I can understand why they would give v1.0 no EA but still doesnt stop me feeling ill not being able to log in today :( .I thought that SE was offering the ability to upgrade to a collectors edition for a similar fee of the standard ARR edition?

Either way if anyone has spare EA code for the EU region i would be grateful :P

If not have fun everyone ill be there eventually :D

whats sad is im a legacy holder, and a 1.0 holder but I don't have early access at all... and I met the requirments and in betta had the tattoo the banner etc.... soooo do tell why this is messed up for me lol.... kinda like "wtfing" atm....

well weird mine is saying 2013 atm since I was in the beta all I did was input the beta key as they said in the service account but my account is old and was on for a long long time so im a little wtfing atm....

hmm I have no idea whats happened to your account unless its the date you registered to the lodestone forums then it would make sense ..

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Originally Posted by wolfsspirit

if you dont like those posts then why are you here ?.
noone said you have to be here and read it .. you are free to skip these posts so you wont irritate yourself on them , if you did read it then don't come whining in here about ending these posts

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True, but i like to come on the forums and use my super powers of mocking and indomitable wit as often as i can. wanna go a round or two?