2nd new class theory

Unless it's a gatherer or crafter I don't think we're going to see anything other than Arcanist at launch. Even Yoshi-P said Summoner probably won't be ready until after the first major patch after the game launches. My reasoning for this is on the home finalfantasyxiv.com site, Arcanist and Summoner were both blanked out on their respective pages until they were leaked and then revealed. There's no more "Coming Soon" boxes on the DoW and DoM pages, however we still don't have anything posted for the DoL or DoH yet.

I'd like to think SE wants to surprise our faces off with something like this haha

I do think the 2nd class theory is Musketeer and job class is Red Mage. I also have a 3rd class theory because I was digging around on FF wikia and I noticed Fencer can be the 3rd class leading to Dark knight job.

I'd rather see Fencer as a class, with Red Mage as it's job, maybe base the guild in Ishgard or something when that is released. Could do that for a few classes actually. Fencer(DoM) guild, Rogue/Thief and maybe some other DoW class. /shrug
I'd be pleased with a surprise Musketeer announcement. Engineer or Corsair for its job!

I didn't read threw everything, but I figured I'd toss in a post for justice.

First off, if they add musketeer, thats a base job. Whatever it builds into(Corsair/redmage/whatever) would be like arc>smn later, so no advanced job yet I'd assume.

Secondly, didn't yoshi say once a long time ago that he intended two new jobs at ARR launch? Arc being one, but the other, who knows? I swear I read that someplace.. I'm not going to read threw every letter and try and find every interview/watch every video.. but if someone knows it to be true and has it handy, link! /lazy

people keep talking about red mage here and there, i know that they not gonna bring that class anytime soon or never i think they want new classes that we havent been able to play before they bring that kind of class

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Originally Posted by DarkkenMoneybags

I do think the 2nd class theory is Musketeer and job class is Red Mage. I also have a 3rd class theory because I was digging around on FF wikia and I noticed Fencer can be the 3rd class leading to Dark knight job.

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The only reason I doubt it would work into another mage class would only be because they are already giving us Arc as new mage class, and i am skeptical of them giving us 2 new mage classes at once. Don't get me wrong, I long to see the pimp ass RDM Af hat make a return to this new FF, I just bet that whenever they choose to finally give us the next class, it will be a CC or Thf style class, as thats something we have yet to see in XIV.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

Unless it's a gatherer or crafter I don't think we're going to see anything other than Arcanist at launch. Even Yoshi-P said Summoner probably won't be ready until after the first major patch after the game launches. My reasoning for this is on the home finalfantasyxiv.com site, Arcanist and Summoner were both blanked out on their respective pages until they were leaked and then revealed. There's no more "Coming Soon" boxes on the DoW and DoM pages, however we still don't have anything posted for the DoL or DoH yet.

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Hey Orophin, first let me say thanks for the reply. I agree that its a stretch at us getting a brand new class along with Arc come launch, but if they were to give us a suprise class (along with, what I hope, is some other suprise content at launch) it would make little sense to reserve a spot for it on the official site (assuming of course its meant to BE a suprise). At the end of the day I would just be really sad if, in the process of following this remake so closely via the internet, we walk away unimpressed with the content in 2.0 simply because none of it suprised us. The interweb and our love of this game is a double edge sword my friends :p

Also, as you mentioned, I would actually be just as excited to get ANY new job for any of the three class types at launch, so even if it was a DoL or DoH job I would be just as stoked!

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I tried looking for the old 1.0 mined list of classes and found iiiiit
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eJWgfsR5AN...iv+classes.png

If you can not read it here:

Puglist ✔
Gladiator ✔
Maruder ✔
Fencer
Enforcer
Archer ✔
Lancer ✔
Musketeer
Sentinel
Samurai
Stavesman
Assassin
Flayer
Mystic
Thaumaturge ✔
Conjurer ✔
Arcanist ✔
Bard ✔

DoL:
Herding

Now... interestingly you can see Bard and Archer were originally different classes... or so it leaves us to believe.
But, as always take anything pre 2.0 with a grain of salt as it may have changed concept more then once ^^

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Sentinel used to be the GLA shield wonder if thats dead on gone in ARR or will it return as a new job or a shield again.
Enforcer sounds different, so does stavesman.

I always really like the idea of a physical damage class using a stave, especially considering how effect they are and how awesome it would be to see. Lots of aoe moves I would hope :)

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Originally Posted by Makwa

I'd rather see Fencer as a class, with Red Mage as it's job, maybe base the guild in Ishgard or something when that is released. Could do that for a few classes actually. Fencer(DoM) guild, Rogue/Thief and maybe some other DoW class. /shrug
I'd be pleased with a surprise Musketeer announcement. Engineer or Corsair for its job!

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I kinda don't like how everyone is putting classes & guilds to cities only. Remember we could have hidden lairs/areas and such that introduce hidden guilds/classes/jobs(this is why im hoping through quest progression hidden classes could be found. Unlock-able only by side quest progression/fame level?

Having it only city based would be predictable/easy, and nothing to work towards. After arcanist & maybe musketeer I hope some of the other classes are hidden through quest progression.

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Originally Posted by Rustyhagun

I kinda don't like how everyone is putting classes & guilds to cities only. Remember we could have hidden lairs/areas and such that introduce hidden guilds/classes/jobs(this is why im hoping through quest progression hidden classes could be found. Unlock-able only by side quest progression/fame level?

Having it only city based would be predictable/easy, and nothing to work towards. After arcanist & maybe musketeer I hope some of the other classes are hidden through quest progression.

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I second this fo sho.

I would be ecstatic if musketeer was put in early. Been waiting on that class since 1.xx beta.

The musketeer office is just a front organization for the Thief/Ninja guild. ;)

(Hey, one can hope!)

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Originally Posted by Biggs

Really?! the guy with the "Back Paddling" (his spelling not mine) thread gets 100 responses and I get 5? Not creating threads for responses, just pointing out that this topic seems way more interesting than half the crap people choose to respond too. :p There is no accounting for what some people find interesting I guess. I must be getting old.....

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You should have titled your thread:

"Why SE will FAIL if they don't make a 2nd Class"

People would flood your thread to argue endlessly over it.

;)


Back on topic.

As others have said here, SE has always released at least 2 jobs in FFXI at a time to avoid a glut of one sort out in the world. Even though we will have an influx of new players, the volume of current players all leveling Arcanist will be overwhelming, so I think a new class would be prudent.

Then again, since leveling is mostly achieved via quests, and Arcanist looks like a solid solo-er, they might be purposely ignoring class-balancing EXP parties.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I would not be surprised at all if they did introduce another new class as a surprise, SE usually brings out new classes in twos don't they?

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Well, I don't think I need to point out that we ARE getting 2 new classes. ACN and SMN.

Nope. That's 1 Class and its Job. Just like you don't count PLD and GLA separately.

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Originally Posted by Cedri

Well, I don't think I need to point out that we ARE getting 2 new classes. ACN and SMN.

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That is one class and it's job. A Job is not a Class ^_^

Technicalities.

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Originally Posted by Biggs

Side note: Muskateer for the Win people !!!!!!!!!!!

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Musketeer, because I haz gun! Death Penalty + Annihilator? Yes, please.

Mindless optimism time!

Since starting classes have been announced to be nation locked, 1.0 players with all 50s would need 1 new job per nation to be able to do the lowbie content properly for any choice of nation.

I am going to be so dissapoint Q_Q

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Originally Posted by MeeYow

Mindless optimism time!

Since starting classes have been announced to be nation locked, 1.0 players with all 50s would need 1 new job per nation to be able to do the lowbie content properly for any choice of nation.

I am going to be so dissapoint Q_Q

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Actually, it's been confirmed that 1.0 players will not, in fact, start as part of ANY of the nations and have their own starting point.

I posted this ages ago in another thread but it seems like no one is mentioning chemist. This would also be a great addition to the current roster.

Chemist would give us another healer, just not a mage type. Chemists also use guns.

They could use potions and such as consumables. Maybe have an ability to throw a potion high over a party and shoot it, shattering the glass and making the potion aoe. Traits to make them more effective. Theres alot se could do with chemist in ffxiv. Its sad that such a great and useful job in fft hasnt been used since.

I would love to play as a Chemist!

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I tried looking for the old 1.0 mined list of classes and found iiiiit
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eJWgfsR5AN...iv+classes.png

If you can not read it here:

Puglist ✔
Gladiator ✔
Maruder ✔
Fencer
Enforcer
Archer ✔
Lancer ✔
Musketeer
Sentinel
Samurai
Stavesman
Assassin
Flayer
Mystic
Thaumaturge ✔
Conjurer ✔
Arcanist ✔
Bard ✔

DoL:
Herding

Now... interestingly you can see Bard and Archer were originally different classes... or so it leaves us to believe.
But, as always take anything pre 2.0 with a grain of salt as it may have changed concept more then once ^^

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I was always intrigued by that chart. They obviously aren't sticking to it now, but it's cool to see the ideas that the 1.0 team had back then.

If they had stuck with the classes only, the abilities might be a nightmare to balance. I don't think the job system was ever part of the original plan -- at least from what Yoshi-P said about the 1.0 team trying to be as different as possible from FFXI.

Makes you wonder why they chose the Vana'diel races if they were trying to make something so different...

XI had their MMO fanbase, so they were trying to migrate those folks over to this shiny new theme park they're building. Unfortunately, it was all of the original's worst points and then some, and the bad outweighed the good. The result: the realm gets reborn in 2.0 to give it a clean slate and an entirely new outlook. I'm expecting it to end up being only superficially similar to XI in 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Majoga

Flayer = Blue Mage? Xi ppl kno what I'm talking about.

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If the Blu in ARR (note: a future expansion) possessed any of the Spell potential of the flayer you fight in FFXI, it would be the Job of Most Pwn in all the realm.

But, alas, nerf and terf would be rampant, from patch to patch; and all EG battles would have alliances with at LEAST one full 8-man hit squad of Blus (damn I'd love to see that in FFXIV's gfx engine...)

I dream...

Music from End of the Era trailer plays in my mind's ears...

Barret Wallace starts casting Head Butt.
Barret Wallace Head Butt.
Bahamut takes 350 points of damage.
Bahamut is stunned.
(10 seconds later)
Bahamut readies Mega Flare.
Louisoix smiles...
Bahamut uses Mega Flare.
Barret Wallace learns Mega Flare.
FFXIV:ARR crashes

(*350 dmg on Bahamut seems reasonable for a low-tier spell like HB.)

And by the way, at 1:49:28 in the Producer LIVE Part IV video?

from Left to Right: Musketeer -or- Red Mage, Blue Mage -or- Assassin, Dark Knight, and Beast Master.

(I just fell out.)

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Originally Posted by BarretWallace

(*350 dmg on Bahamut seems reasonable for a low-tier spell like HB.)

And by the way, at 1:49:28 in the Producer LIVE Part IV video?

from Left to Right: Musketeer -or- Red Mage, Blue Mage -or- Assassin, Dark Knight, and Beast Master.

(I just fell out.)

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All i see at that time is all three of them saying thankyou for watching. Which link are you using?

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Originally Posted by Biggs

All i see at that time is all three of them saying thankyou for watching. Which link are you using?

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Uhh...this one. They hold up the art at about 1:49:20, iirc.

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Originally Posted by BarretWallace

Uhh...this one. They hold up the art at about 1:49:20, iirc.

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You, my galka friend, just made my evening. MY thanks!

To me, those pictures looked like (from left to right) Musketeer, Ninja, Samurai, and Beastmaster.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

To me, those pictures looked like (from left to right) Musketeer, Ninja, Samurai, and Beastmaster.

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I can not find where it was said, but from memory the sheets read what they are in Japanese and i believe at least one was GC gear. None were new jobs.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I can not find where it was said, but from memory the sheets read what they are in Japanese and i believe at least one was GC gear. None were new jobs.

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Gotta find the link for that girl. because to me those look like new jobs. why only show 4 GC gear sets when we have 6 classes.

They said good bye and cryptically put up 4 armor types.

The one on the far right looks too much like the BeastMaster AF helm, from ffxi.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...P101m9wrtr5cvQ https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...dBcS9M4hrhlyDA

The armor in the middle right looks like it could be DrkKnight armor or Samurai( that helm looks very Asian to me.)

http://newsroom.unl.edu/releases/dow...1012helmet.jpg

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4...nshotsjobs.png

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Originally Posted by Wynn

To me, those pictures looked like (from left to right) Musketeer, Ninja, Samurai, and Beastmaster.

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BEASSTTTMASSTTTTEEERRRRR!!!
NIIINNNJJJAAAAAA!!!!!!
DOOOMMMAAARRRRUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!
*Calms down*
Do want!

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I can not find where it was said, but from memory the sheets read what they are in Japanese and i believe at least one was GC gear. None were new jobs.

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The red one says lominsan grand company gear or something to that effect on it in english if i remember rightly just hard to read.

Edit: Here right click and view image the image on the op's first post and you can quite clearly see Limsa Lominsan GC written on the red one. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...482#post888482

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Originally Posted by Alaltus

The red one says lominsan grand company gear or something to that effect on it in english if i remember rightly just hard to read.

Edit: Here right click and view image the image on the op's first post and you can quite clearly see Limsa Lominsan GC written on the red one. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...482#post888482

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Damn...hella busted. Hahaha! I blame my eyes...and y'know common sense, logic, the burden of proof.

Here's for still hoping that Musketeer is a close second for the class released on day of or in a patch after re-launch. *clink*

(I can still dream about casting Head Butt on Bahamut and learning a dumbed-down version of Mega Flare though.)

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Originally Posted by Alaltus

Edit: Here right click and view image the image on the op's first post and you can quite clearly see Limsa Lominsan GC written on the red one. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...482#post888482

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Thankies. I knew I saw that somewhere ^_^

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Originally Posted by Rustyhagun

Gotta find the link for that Sister.

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Fixed for you ^_^

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Originally Posted by BarretWallace

Damn...hella busted. Hahaha! I blame my eyes...and y'know common sense, logic, the burden of proof.

Here's for still hoping that Musketeer is a close second for the class released on day of or in a patch after re-launch. *clink*

(I can still dream about casting Head Butt on Bahamut and learning a dumbed-down version of Mega Flare though.)

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Suddenly i'm thinking about Blue Mage Gunners(Gun Mage) from ffx-2 which i completely forgot about up till now.

I could believe the far right one is Beastmaster it does have that sort of look. But i'm not convinced about the dark green gear or the blue one, they dont seem to look like any of the jobs. The blue one to me seems very magey and not something an agile job would wear, if it is a job piece at a guess i would say its Blue Mage (backline style). Since its Blue and Blue Mage's look tends to be inconsistent.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

Thankies. I knew I saw that somewhere ^_^


Fixed for you ^_^

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lol... thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I can not find where it was said, but from memory the sheets read what they are in Japanese and i believe at least one was GC gear. None were new jobs.

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Aww poo. Well at least the Limsa gear looks pirate-y. I look forward to obtaining it.