New Alpha Video

Though, honestly, I'm glad they're doing these videos. It's controlling my urge to go digging for leaked footage.

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Originally Posted by Goufunaki

That bugged the hell out of me as well.

My alt's gonna need some pants!

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lol yeah! Mine as well!

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Originally Posted by Spy

Very nice! I'm probably alone in this, but I wish the miqo'te panties werent quite as visible when she runs...considering I'm probably gonna go miqo'te for the new world.

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At least it's good news for you that you can easily change the equipment for something else. It's after all the starter's equipment. And it's not like every equipment in the game is like that. About 95% of the equips are decent and more suitable.

Edit: Not trying to sound mean, just stating things

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Originally Posted by Vydos

At least it's good news for you that you can easily change the equipment for something else. It's after all the starter's equipment. And it's not like every equipment in the game is like that. About 95% of the equips are decent and more suitable.

Edit: Not trying to sound mean, just stating things

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hehe nah, you dont sound mean. I know I can just take it off for something else. Honestly cant say I'm a huge fan of the skirt's texture anyway. Looks like they wrapped red cardboard around the miqo'te's waist then drew folds on it.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

http://youtu.be/AQb_t5zkfoY?t=2m30s

I must have looked away for a second, because I just now noticed the zone indicator! It's just like Final Fantasy XII! I'm a HUGE fan of the aesthetics of A Realm Reborn! Also, I'm happy to see the cities broken into smaller sections!

inb4 "omg small zones wah"

Haters gonna hate.

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YES! FFXII-style zone markers .. <3 <3 <3 :D

[I hated not knowing exactly where the zone was in FFXI.]

The music is nice (obviously inspired by the LotR shire music)

One thing that struck me is the perception of freedom of movement in ARR (esp compared to 1.0). Originally, I was against the jumping mechanic, but I've come around to it within the larger context of ARR.

New Grid looks absolutely fantastic!, I can't wait to see the other cities!!




EDIT: ACTUAL WATER REFRACTIONS! [@1:27]

I am personally DYYINNNNNNNGGGGGG to see LL! D: My beloved city over the water couldn't have faired to well ; ; Please SE show us LL before I *starts to choke on her own blood*

I'd like to note the load times. They are super fast considering I expected more common mmo loads like gw2 or ffxi

Also though the music is nice, I think they could do a bit better with it and please se don't leave those big blue dots in a line to show us zone lines :(

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

The music is nice (obviously inspired by the LotR shire music)

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Lol..this explains why when I was watching this vid I was like "man..it feels like I'm in the Shire for some reason and I don't know why!"

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Originally Posted by Kyri

Also though the music is nice, I think they could do a bit better with it and please se don't leave those big blue dots in a line to show us zone lines :(

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Personally i like them, reminds me oh so much of: http://www.skyrender.net/lp/ff12/1-1/65.jpg

Perhaps they could be thinned out, smaller even. But i wouldn't mind if they stayed how they are.

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Originally Posted by Kyri

Also though the music is nice, I think they could do a bit better with it and please se don't leave those big blue dots in a line to show us zone lines :(

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Those are straight out of FFXII. And they are very useful (esp if running from mobs)

Also, you'll notice (@2:24) you don't even see them until you get within 5 yalms of the zone.

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

I'd like to note the load times. They are super fast considering I expected more common mmo loads like gw2 or ffxi

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They did mention before on an interview that the game starts pre-loading the next zone when you start approaching the zoneline, so that when you hit it it already has a portion of it on memory and it thus reduces loading time. (which means that hanging by the zoneline is a BAD IDEA because it doubles your memory usage)

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Originally Posted by Kyri

Also though the music is nice, I think they could do a bit better with it and please se don't leave those big blue dots in a line to show us zone lines :(

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Why not? The FF XII zone makers are nice.
Or do you want them in circles? ^^

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Originally Posted by Skies

They did mention before on an interview that the game starts pre-loading the next zone when you start approaching the zoneline, so that when you hit it it already has a portion of it on memory and it thus reduces loading time. (which means that hanging by the zoneline is a BAD IDEA because it doubles your memory usage)

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So it's basically what XI does. The client will start loading the zone before you actually zone then it will load the serverside things in tandem. XI had pretty fast load times, especially on the PC if you had a good processor (given the PS2 Port nature of it.)

Notice that the zone transition cuts out that whole tunnel you used to have to run through?

With zone loading this fast, and zones that strategically allow us to skip previously long walks, navigating the cities will be a breeze~

I'd like to see what things look like at night..

The aetherythe crystal is right next to the Adventurer's guild! Huzzah!

Also, isn't Gridania supposed to be destroyed? Did they just reconstruct it with the exact same layout or something?

Not grid, just the black shroud around it...

I guess Grid suffered some collateral damage and had to be rebuilt a bit as well.


I'm starting to wonder if Ul'dah is going to be the most changed now...

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Originally Posted by Kule

The lack of animation looks terrible here -_- http://youtu.be/AQb_t5zkfoY?t=1m10s

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i think that looks so normal to me..

the current "stopping animation" at EACH movement is just so overdone.. unrealistic and play unfluent.

or are you doing 1-2 steps after you stopped already moving in real life? i do personally not..



other topic. it looks great and so much more lively. but what i still miss is.. that no npc is walking around or something. there will be no difference between day and night. the children will be standing on these wood pillars all day long 24/7. which i think is a slight disappointment.

it would be so much more great if the npcs would have a real day rythm or something (not all but at least some of them), to make it even more lively.

what do you think?

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Notice that the zone transition cuts out that whole tunnel you used to have to run through?

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i loved it. it was kinda visualized like in Final Fantasy 12 with these blue dots "oh see there is coming an other zone" just so great that little detail ;)

they took it from FF12^^ i mean

this ;)

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Originally Posted by Kyri

I am personally DYYINNNNNNNGGGGGG to see LL! D: My beloved city over the water couldn't have faired to well ; ; Please SE show us LL before I *starts to choke on her own blood*

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If you love Limsa, wait for them to show it. If we play through Grid the entire beta then people will hate the crap out of it, just like how people currently hate Limsa for the 1.0 beta.

On topic though:

The game looks absolutely gorgeous IMO.
Lack of animations is whatever, it's alpha and if this community complains enough about anything they'll probably add it.
New music is amazing

My problem about camera control for now is that the char rotates with the camera, even if he stand still. During running or walking, ok. But not during standing. It is as if the world rotate under him.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Not grid, just the black shroud around it...

I guess Grid suffered some collateral damage and had to be rebuilt a bit as well.


I'm starting to wonder if Ul'dah is going to be the most changed now...

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They said awhile ago the cities will largely remain the same, but now it seems they are moving things around and putting zonelines in to make running through town faster.

The zone line markers are brilliant I loved them on FFXII, and I love them now. Aetherite is finally in a convenient location and the delivery moogle is where the Aetherite is in 1.0, decent location for it, kind of out the way but somewhere easily accessible.

The water looks awesome, and I'm sure the lancer's guild looks a lot more epic than now. The animations are fine the way I see it, not over the top, and not too little.

If I have to say something bad, it would have to be the path the Miqo'te jumps off seems a little high for jumping, it's at least 2x the height of her, but it's nothing game breaking (and if that was based on height, lalafell would not be able to jump of anything bigger than a Chigoe's dead body).

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

i think that looks so normal to me..

the current "stopping animation" at EACH movement is just so overdone.. unrealistic and play unfluent.

or are you doing 1-2 steps after you stopped already moving in real life? i do personally not..

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It's not the lack of stopping that bothers me. just the weird pivot the characters make when you look around.

Ohh good catch it does look like the ones from 12<3
It's not that I don't like the ideas of zones, I would just prefer the zone lines were a bit more hmm.. natural to the environment, or perhaps on our mini maps. Blue floating dots just bugs me a little. If it was maybe a little shady at a zone line, or perhaps a border like two trees touching to make a canopy, or maybe those tall tree logs we pass through in the alphas. In uldah a rock crevice could work, or bushes even. Im sure your more creative then me but you get the idea ;)

I do hope they add a pivot animation and tweak the jumping one a bit. Otherwise looks great. Those shaders make quite a difference.

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Originally Posted by Kule

It's not the lack of stopping that bothers me. just the weird pivot the characters make when you look around.

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Yes
It would be better if the char don't change the direction of his view during standing and the camera rotate around him, if you know what i mean ^^

If we want to rotate with the camera we can still change to the first-person view (what is still possible in ARR seeing this video) like currently.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

If I have to say something bad, it would have to be the path the Miqo'te jumps off seems a little high for jumping, it's at least 2x the height of her, but it's nothing game breaking (and if that was based on height, lalafell would not be able to jump of anything bigger than a Chigoe's dead body).

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I honestly hope they implement more of these jumping shortcuts. Makes traveling through the city a lot easier. Plus if they didn't let us jump off those ledges I feel like they'd be missing a great opportunity and it just wouldn't make sense to me.

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Originally Posted by Kyri

Ohh good catch it does look like the ones from 12<3
It's not that I don't like the ideas of zones, I would just prefer the zone lines were a bit more hmm.. natural to the environment, or perhaps on our mini maps. Blue floating dots just bugs me a little. If it was maybe a little shady at a zone line, or perhaps a border like two trees touching to make a canopy, or maybe those tall tree logs we pass through in the alphas. In uldah a rock crevice could work, or bushes even. Im sure your more creative then me but you get the idea ;)

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i just love it.

and you do not see it from the distance only when you are near to it. and it really matches the new style of the User Interface as well. Which is also in Final Fantasy neon blue color.
i liked it in FF12 and now like it in here.

Its Final Fantasy and you can see it. and definatley better then running into a wall or not seeing that there is coming a loading screen. and she runs even beyond the "loading screen wall" which is really nice.. does not seem so unfluent like you would run against a wall and stop.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Yes
It would be better if the char don't change the direction of his view during standing and the camera rotate around him, if you know what i mean ^^

If we want to rotate with the camera we can still change to the first-person view (what is still possible in ARR seeing this video) like currently.

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That could just be a camera control, could be changeable, it's the kind of thing you need to see the configuration before you really comment on it. For that one I would wait until you play alpha/beta, then if that's the only way, comment on it.

Up to now kind of small because we don't know the configuration options in the client.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

I honestly hope they implement more of these jumping shortcuts. Makes traveling through the city a lot easier. Plus if they didn't let us jump off those ledges I feel like they'd be missing a great opportunity and it just wouldn't make sense to me.

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They can do 3 types of hindrance heighs.
Type 1 - jump down and up
Type 2 - just jump down and no up (maybe climbing up in an expansion pack? ^^)
Type 3 - no jump down and no up

The only thing I didn't like is that the video was to short. :p

I want to see more.

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Originally Posted by Bizzy

The only thing I didn't like is that the video was to short. :p

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thats true and i want to see other cities like limsa lominsa etc..

what i really miss is, that no peoples are walking around (NPC) that would make such a bigger difference to now.

Noticed they added the 'splash' effect when walk in the water finally lol

Shit.

I can tell I just lost my life

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

thats true and i want to see other cities like limsa lominsa etc..

what i really miss is, that no peoples are walking around (NPC) that would make such a bigger difference to now.

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I think they want to add this, it just might not have been ready for alpha.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I think they want to add this, it just might not have been ready for alpha.

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Yeah - they said they are adding life to the cities compared to 1.0 so I'd really assume this not to be the final city piece (also its still alpha :P).


Ready to get flamed.. But I hope they let higher end PCs to jack up the flora from the obvious 2d planes to something more wholesome (WoW does the the first kind of flora builds too, allows more objects on lower end pcs..). But I like that they added textures instead of pixel coloring, clear improvement over 1.0.

I so can't wait to play 2.0! Looks awesome!

they should re-release 1.0 beta version as a new game and call it wasteland. It would be a sandbox mmo where you can do whatever you want.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Shit.

I can tell I just lost my life

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honestly i'm scared ><

The animations look fine. Complainers just need something to complain about. Like grass. I seriously cringed when pepople started complaining about that. How about how the game plays people?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

The animations look fine. Complainers just need something to complain about. Like grass. I seriously cringed when pepople started complaining about that. How about how the game plays people?

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We need to see some game plays first :P. Just because your standards or prefrences are in different locations doesnt mean someone elses complaint isnt valid. "That isnt my worry - so it isnt a good point".

looks great, the city feels so much more alive ...looks really good. can't wait for 2.0 for the reals.