Letter from the Producer, XXXVII (10/26/2012)

the screenshots looks amazing but if i am being really really really nit picky haha :D the icons for the status ailments need a little work!

i really dig the black mi'qote as well :D

it looks so sharp and pleasing to the eye, no jagged lines around models at all, i just can't wait to test this games engine on my u2711 @ 2560x1440 on high!

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Originally Posted by leomax

the screenshots looks amazing but if i am being really really really nit picky haha :D the icons for the status ailments need a little work!

i really dig the black mi'qote as well :D

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They look better than futurusic looking ones from the first ARR screenshot, at least.

http://www.finalfantasy.net/wp-conte...11/10/xiv2.png

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Originally Posted by Mug

They look better than futurusic looking ones from the first ARR screenshot, at least.

http://www.finalfantasy.net/wp-conte...11/10/xiv2.png

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I liked those ones better... :<

i do prefer these futuristic ones because they blend into the ui a lot better from comparison but then these ones will be easier to understand from the get go i guess. i understand its alpha lol just pointing it out :D

Can I just add that I think this is a good example of a good Producer's letter. It didn't contain a whole lot of info, but it did give us something new to talk about, because of the screenshots.

Can you imagine if they released screenshots like this regularly. Like every week. That sure would be something.

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Originally Posted by Mug

Can I just add that I think this is a good example of a good Producer's letter. It didn't contain a whole lot of info, but it did give us something new to talk about, because of the screenshots.

Can you imagine if they released screenshots like this regularly. Like every week. That sure would be something.

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Oh you mean like they were supposed to "after gamescom ends"? Yeah that woulda been nice.

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Originally Posted by Mug

Can I just add that I think this is a good example of a good Producer's letter. It didn't contain a whole lot of info, but it did give us something new to talk about, because of the screenshots.

Can you imagine if they released screenshots like this regularly. Like every week. That sure would be something.

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Eh, it's still early.

Just wait, as the day progresses, we'll start seeing threads complaining about stuff. I foresee someone crying about this screenshot in particular:

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../35/7523_5.jpg

If we had more frequent updates, while nice, we'd just see more nit-picking over the most trivial stuff.

i dont think there is enough dragoons and white mages in that pt.

That screenshot look really bad i agree.

I dont know what hell is happening in that picture. I spent like a good few minutes trying to make sense of whats in that pic.
Im tired though so that will contribute to the headache i got from that screenshot.

They need someone who snaps better screenshots or organize the character a bit better.

I blame that camouflaged dragoon.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Eh, it's still early.

Just wait, as the day progresses, we'll start seeing threads complaining about stuff. I foresee someone crying about this screenshot in particular:

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../35/7523_5.jpg

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The only thing I don't like about that screenshot is the weapon/hat/hood clipping issues. I was actually pleasantly surprised by the screenshots this time around. They made me feel excited about the game, and I haven't felt like that for a long time.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

The screenshot look really bad i agree. I dont know what hell is happening in that picture. I spent like a good few minutes trying to make sense of whats in that pic. Im tired tho so that will contribute to the headache i got from that screenshot.

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I'm guessing they wanted a lot of people in one spot to see how the servers would react?

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

That screenshot look really bad i agree.

I dont know what hell is happening in that picture. I spent like a good few minutes trying to make sense of whats in that pic.
Im tired though so that will contribute to the headache i got from that screenshot.

They need someone who snaps better screenshots or organize the character a bit better.

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I think that what is happening in that picture is that they got everyone gathered very, very damn tightly to get as many people as possible filling as much as possible of the screen, so that they could test the game's ability to render a bajillion people and hopefully not slow down.

Essentially a character rendering limit test.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

I dont know what hell is happening in that picture. I spent like a good few minutes trying to make sense of whats in that pic.

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Originally Posted by Mug

I'm guessing they wanted a lot of people in one spot to see how the servers would react?

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As you can see, the new engine can handle a lot of characters at once, and I even had the settings set to high. (In case you’re wondering, everyone is sporting exclusive alpha gear for the dungeon.)

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/10characaters

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Originally Posted by Mug

The only thing I don't like about that screenshot is the weapon/hat/hood clipping issues. I was actually pleasantly surprised by the screenshots this time around. They made me feel excited about the game, and I haven't felt like that for a long time.

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That's the one thing I hoped would be fixed with the new engine.

http://i49.tinypic.com/uuftf.jpg

Calling it now...someone will find a HUGE problem with this. I'm guessing it'll be bobbygunz, as he's the one who generally has problems with graphics.

Oh so they fixed the 40 character limit. Its a good improvement im looking forward too. Its a big weakness of current ffxiv. Especially in uldah and atomos with them invisible monster 3 shotting you.

I dislike that screenshot cos the dragoon armor and colours gave me a headache after looking at it a while.

Adamantoise mob looks awesome.

waaa ya'll talking crazy, graphics look amazing.

Also have to remember screenshots can make things look crap. Especially cropped jpeg ones, but more importantly because its "still". Still images make AA stand out, but ingame when everything is moving it blends a bit better and things seem shiner because its animating.

Also if you want it even higher gfx just make a profile in your driver options.

( *A*) Those screenies~♪

@Babydoll - I miss those ARC days too! Barcher just hasn't been the same since that nerf D: lol
*Character stands on a rock*
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...oodamnhigh.jpg


I'm really looking forward to the next screenies they release - I'm totally blown away by that iron giant, and holy character limit! <3 It'll be nice to run up to someone in a crowded city and not have them *poof* on you if you walk too far past them XD

Sadly, you can still determine things from still images. If there's clipping issues in a screenshot you can bet your crossdressed ass there's even more so in motion lol.

Also, iirc he stated that was on high settings too, so either physics isn't completely incorporated or they really can't fix certain graphical issues.

No game is ever going to be clipping free.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

No game is ever going to be clipping free.

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No, but I've seen games with less clipping issues on certain models than in XIV.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Sadly, you can still determine things from still images. If there's clipping issues in a screenshot you can bet your crossdressed ass there's even more so in motion lol.

Also, iirc he stated that was on high settings too, so either physics isn't completely incorporated or they really can't fix certain graphical issues.

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physics will not fix it though, its like the cropping in the current game where clothing cuts through your body, a massive lance will likely always poke through clothing.

Have to just get used to it! Its like this in most games. Esp MMOs

im sure u seen gw2 which is like clipga haha

At least you can hide head gear with most classes to avoid clipping. I happen to be a WHM with that big ass ugly damn hood that has no /off option. I'll never understand why they gave it a giant hood, knowing WHM uses staves and shields, do they not even care what it looks like?

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Originally Posted by viion

im sure u seen gw2 which is like clipga haha

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Yeah...I really wondered what happened there lol.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

No, but I've seen games with less clipping issues on certain models than in XIV.

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Some games have "better" models than XIV, yes.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

No game is ever going to be clipping free.

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I'm not sure it's entirely clipping free, but they did a pretty great job with FFXIII and FXIII-2. Try spinning Lightning around. Her cape never clips in to anything =)

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Originally Posted by Gospel

Maybe I'm just seeing things but it looks like Mages and Archers were able to attack from the hill tops in this photo.

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../35/7523_6.jpg

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Is that a dead Lalafell? O.o
Awesome screen shots poor Yoshi-P will get scolded x_x

BRING ON 2.O!

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Originally Posted by Gospel

Maybe I'm just seeing things but it looks like Mages and Archers were able to attack from the hill tops in this photo.

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../35/7523_6.jpg

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OMG Archers can use terrain to their advantage?! *dies*

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

Adamantoise mob looks awesome.

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It does.. Not to be too nitpicky, but I'm rather disappointed that they just imported FFXI's Adamantoise design



http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...%28FFXI%29.png


Adamantoise has been redesigned for every game in the series. Sad that they didn't give it a unique look in FFXIV. :/

FFVII:
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...yu31c4rFWdBsHf

FFIX:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ntoiseFFIX.png

FFX:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._%28FFX%29.jpg

FFXII:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...tan_render.png

FFXIII:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...damantoise.png

FF:type-0
http://www.dualshockers.com/wp-conte...11/10/0397.jpg


That little issue aside, ARR looks awesome - esp the Iron Giant! :D I can't wait to play it.

pics are pretty sweet, the turtle got me smiling big time. also the other big boy in the pics. really can't wait to see 2.0 launching. glad they can handle big number of peoples together ...gives me huge hope for large scale content in the future.

Wow Yoshi has ball's there to leak NDA photo's lol we got a brave director. Now i hope people don't follow in his footsteps start doing what he did. He could get in trouble for encouraging NDA leaks, But on other hand they all look fantastic. Love Yoshi to deaht !

I don't see any issues with "clipping" in that photo. It's hard enough to know who's in front of who.

They all had a very similar appearance in some way much like Iron Giants all had a similar appearance in some fashion..hell XI's Iron Giants were actually a bit more unique.

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...t_1_(FFXI).png

While Similar to the classic style, there's a spin on the design:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...an_FF7.jpg.png

Which more or less is the typical design. So while it is an XI import, this is just one of the later iterations of the Adamantoise for now. The XIII ones were probably way too fucking big lol.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

They all had a very similar appearance in some way much like Iron Giants all had a similar appearance in some fashion..hell XI's Iron Giants were actually a bit more unique.

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...t_1_(FFXI).png

While Similar to the classic style, there's a spin on the design:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...an_FF7.jpg.png

Which more or less is the typical design. So while it is an XI import, this is just one of the later iterations of the Adamantoise for now. The XIII ones were probably way too fucking big lol.

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(I'm asuming you are responding to my Adamantoise post)

The FFXIV Iron Giant is definitely a fresh design - it's based on the iconic look, but with an Eorzean twist.

The Adamantoise is a sadly just the FFXI version - but with better textures and more geometry. (perhaps they did this to save time because they already had skinning and motion data, not to mention AI scripting that was all fully tested and could be reused)

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

(I'm asuming you are responding to my Adamantoise post)

The FFXIV Iron Giant is definitely a fresh design - it's based on the iconic look, but with an Eorzean twist.

The Adamantoise is a sadly just the FFXI version - but with better textures and more geometry. (perhaps they did this to save time because they already had skinning and motion data they could reuse)

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Well it's... iconic atleast.

Yeah, but like even the imports on other XI models, they react a bit differently so there's a chance that while it is using the XI model, it may be totally different behavior/sound/attack etc wise to fit into XIV better. It also could be that since it's alpha they didn't fully complete the models but like in Abyssea, the boss versions had different designs from the typical one (Lacovie etc.)

This is why the mandragoras are basically the same but the petal is what's different so I don't mind the straight import since they do more than just copy/paste it like some other MMOs that won't be named have done with FFXI models lol.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

(I'm asuming you are responding to my Adamantoise post)

The FFXIV Iron Giant is definitely a fresh design - it's based on the iconic look, but with an Eorzean twist.

The Adamantoise is a sadly just the FFXI version - but with better textures and more geometry. (perhaps they did this to save time because they already had skinning and motion data, not to mention AI scripting that was all fully tested and could be reused)

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They did say they were pulling bits and peices from all the different FF games. XI's biggest contribution in this game seems to be aesthetics.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

(I'm asuming you are responding to my Adamantoise post)

The FFXIV Iron Giant is definitely a fresh design - it's based on the iconic look, but with an Eorzean twist.

The Adamantoise is a sadly just the FFXI version - but with better textures and more geometry. (perhaps they did this to save time because they already had skinning and motion data, not to mention AI scripting that was all fully tested and could be reused)

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It's not the first XI copied monster in the game, probably won't be the last.

I personally really like the adamantoise model.