Atomos: Major annoyance for new players

Okay, so yeah, if I were just trying to finish leve achievements or trying to level as a lower ranked player, I can see how this could put a damper on things....that said:

SE isn't really gearing the current content/game towards 'new' or low-level players. SE accepted a long time ago that this game version was trash and when they did that, they stopped actively seeking out a new playerbase, or even making the game accessable to new players (seriously, storyline from the CNJ guild still talk about casting all the elemental spells as a CNJ...). 95% of all content created in the past year has been aimed at entertaining capped players who've been loyal to the game more or less since release.

Again, this was a choice SE made to 'entertain/reward the loyality' of those still playing while they focused most of their attention on 2.0. So basically, if you are a new player, you are entering this world at your own risk. I am not saying I agree that new players shouldn't feel welcomed (you should)....but you need to understand, even the game's creators aren't considering the needs of new players atm...the last 6ish weeks of this game are solely for the 'vets'

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the last 6ish weeks of this game are solely for the 'vets'

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That's really a load of crap as even the newbest noobs can recieve rewards from the event.

Try walking around and you won't die, minus the AoE it's really your fault if you aggro, Mamba. I realize how hard it is for you to accept your own shortcomings and not cry about things to everyone, but try to grow up before the end of the world.

OP does know that he could... Oh I don't know... RUN there? Chocobo there? Teleporting isn't the only means of transportation. Also teleporting there and walking out is a viable solution unless an imp sees you... Honestly people just like whine pitch moaning over the smallest little inconveniences...

Atomos spawns between 1800-2100 and 0000-0300 in game time. Just plan your visits to the camps around those time. Minor inconvenience.

If new players can't deal with something as small as this, then they probably won't be able to deal with the rest of the game in it's current state. It's better for them to wait until ARR.

Lol, I love how "welcoming" people in this game are...

You know I don't see anyone else whining expect people who have nothing better to do but to whine about new people pointing out an inconvenience if you happen to be a new player to the game lol.

And Eurynomos as you know... I am not a new player - I have been part of this game since alpha testing and have another character with more than 1 lvl 50. I didn't actually say anything about aggroing or anything so I am not sure why you directed your post to me. BUT to reply: I guess you left Besaid/Balmung because everyone there knew you were just a big ugly troll and no one liked you lol.

I just think that all you guys saying that new people shouldn't have a word about anything is just blain ignorant and very stupid.

I really appreciate some of the comments that actually advice that the atomos only pops certain time of the day etc. - THAT is actually being helpful. The rest of you are just whiny bitches who obviously have played games too long and have no social skill what so ever... or are just trolling because quite frankly you have probably done all the content in the game and don't have anything else to do.

Next time you see a new person, how about you give them constructive advice and stop bitching for one second how they aren't supposed to feel upset about something. I am sure you didn't born with exceptional skills to do everything in the world either.

Sadly Mamba you're always going to find people that actually live their life on a computer and don't experience the outdoors... I'm sure if they where this idiotic to someone IRL they'd get a smack In the kisser ?!

Sadly the Internet breeds trolls - they just have nothing better to do with their time…

You actually porting to Black Brush? That is like.. a 30 sec walk from the town.

To your original post, i would be pissed to if this would interfere with my levelling, so i feel your pain.

Unfortunatelly, the game is changing to accomodate 2.0, therefore this type of content is welcomed and needed for about 95% of the server population.

SE will never be able to please everyone all the time, so you gotta take what you can, when you can :D

Going somewhere else, where the event isn't going on is HARD to do these days, right? The event isn't an annoyance if you time yourself when it starts and ends (You can stay far away from the aetheryte as well if it's such a problem) Then again, you can also wait until ARR (since this client won't be saving your progress once the 30th hits) If you die, that's all apart of the game, don't get so worked up over it.
We've all died plenty of times. (I remember in FFXI with that raging bull event, I died just trying to get to my destination)

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Originally Posted by Mamba

You know I don't see anyone else whining expect people who have nothing better to do but to whine about new people pointing out an inconvenience if you happen to be a new player to the game lol.

And Eurynomos as you know... I am not a new player - I have been part of this game since alpha testing and have another character with more than 1 lvl 50. I didn't actually say anything about aggroing or anything so I am not sure why you directed your post to me. BUT to reply: I guess you left Besaid/Balmung because everyone there knew you were just a big ugly troll and no one liked you lol.

I just think that all you guys saying that new people shouldn't have a word about anything is just blain ignorant and very stupid.

The rest of you are just whiny bitches who obviously have played games too long and have no social skill what so ever... or are just trolling because quite frankly you have probably done all the content in the game and don't have anything else to do.

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^HYPOCRITE.

Thanks especially to Mamba, Starlord, and all the other people being understanding. Oh, and thanks to those that pointed out sound aggro and walking. Having played FFXI for the better part of a decade, I assumed Imps and Ahriman detect by sight. It probably wouldn't have saved me though, since I teleported in and was already running in the split seconds before Atomos and its horde were visible to me, so I pretty much ran two steps and was face-down before I knew what hit me. Next time I'll see if they'll let me stroll into camp.

All of you dicks saying "New players need to suck it up, you joined late so screw you, endoftheworldlol" are the same people that are gonna be condescending to ARR newcomers, and that's the last thing this game needs. Keep it up, when ARR hits and all the new players find are a bunch of capped douchebags not giving a damn about them, that could very well be the last nail in the coffin. New players are the only thing standing between you and the death of FFXIV, so cherish every one.

And to the "Just go somewhere else" crowd, that was impossible. In both instances I was doing quests that sent me SPECIFICALLY to a camp where Atomos now spawns to get a cutscene or talk to someone, so I had no choice but to go there right in the middle of it all. I only had an hour to play, could've cleared a couple more quests, but I spent a decent chunk of it face-down in the dirt waiting for everything to despawn so I could warp back out and get my damn cutscene during the ~5 minutes of peace.

It would be an entirely different story if they'd kept Atomos away from camps where low-level content *MUST* be completed, rather than *CAN* be completed. This has nothing to do with lacking resourcefulness, this is all about SE putting time-wasting hindrances right on top of existing low-level content and not giving the player any choice in the matter. I was already aware of everything, having run into Atomos at a far-off camp before, but to find it at the very first Ul'dah camp really seemed like a slap in the face for new people. I can only imagine how a fresh new player might feel. If it were my first day of the free trial and I was heading out to Black Brush to get a handle on things, having that ruined by content meant only for high-level players would be a major turn-off. Do none of you remember your first day? Your first leve or quest? Now imagine it with Atomos in the way. Not a great first impression, I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by AngelicBeing

I'm just trying to get quests done, and twice in the last week I've warped out to a camp only to be one-shotted seconds afterwards, then forced wait for Atomos to clear out so I can get crap done, and hope I could do so fast enough before Atomos and his horde popped right back up again.

Today it was at Black Brush. Seriously? BLACK BRUSH?? The lowest of low level camps in Ul'dah, where most new/low-level players are likely to be leveling ? Nice.

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People have since explained how all that works since (be in walk mode, etc)... so I won't reiterate that.

I will say that, if it's any comfort, it's not much better at level 50 :p

I didn't know about the walk thing either (hadn't encountered Atomos at any camps yet - just lucky I guess). Last night I got dropped in 4 hits upon zoning in and beginning to move.

So.. don't feel bad! It's not just a new player thing. You're just as dead as a high level player, unless you're *extremely* lucky and can get healed in time to escape.

That said, it is something that only happens from time to time and so, is easily avoidable as long as you keep track of what time it is and what camps you're going to.

I think it adds a bit of excitement to things, personally.

The s@#t is hitting the fan, we're going to hell in a handbasket... and it's beginning to really show.

Gawd.. cry babies everywhere ...

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Originally Posted by Abauge_Goga

this type of content is welcomed and needed for about 95% of the server population.

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NOPE It seems like its just a way for the lazy bums who didn't get their ltn gear and rank get their crap real fast before se 'takes their game away'

You know what did this same *exact* thing (spawn high lvl endgame mobs in lvl 1 area)? A really crappy f2p mmo...
It doesn't even feel like there's a war going on... now if they had the Imp airships actually landing and invading the cities then maybe...

The end of the world is gonna be harsh. Get used to it.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

NOPE It seems like its just a way for the lazy bums who didn't get their ltn gear and rank get their crap real fast before se 'takes their game away'

You know what did this same *exact* thing (spawn high lvl endgame mobs in lvl 1 area)? A really crappy f2p mmo...
It doesn't even feel like there's a war going on... now if they had the Imp airships actually landing and invading the cities then maybe...

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No, you'd just whine about being attacked in the city after that.

You know, they might even be doing this purposely to keep new players away. If the major hindrances come from the cataclysmic event, then the new players will say "Well, this will be gone in ARR, so I'll just come back then." It's much better than them playing now and seeing how broken it is and saying "Nothing can fix this mess of a game, I won't bother trying later" or something to that effect.

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Originally Posted by Mamba

Lol, I love how "welcoming" people in this game are...

You know I don't see anyone else whining expect people who have nothing better to do but to whine about new people pointing out an inconvenience if you happen to be a new player to the game lol.

And Eurynomos as you know... I am not a new player - I have been part of this game since alpha testing and have another character with more than 1 lvl 50. I didn't actually say anything about aggroing or anything so I am not sure why you directed your post to me. BUT to reply: I guess you left Besaid/Balmung because everyone there knew you were just a big ugly troll and no one liked you lol.

I just think that all you guys saying that new people shouldn't have a word about anything is just blain ignorant and very stupid.

I really appreciate some of the comments that actually advice that the atomos only pops certain time of the day etc. - THAT is actually being helpful. The rest of you are just whiny bitches who obviously have played games too long and have no social skill what so ever... or are just trolling because quite frankly you have probably done all the content in the game and don't have anything else to do.

Next time you see a new person, how about you give them constructive advice and stop bitching for one second how they aren't supposed to feel upset about something. I am sure you didn't born with exceptional skills to do everything in the world either.

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Balmung has gotten bad since I came back. Back in the day there were only a handful of asses. Just about everyone else was happy and fun to play with. Now, it's just pathetic... If any one new to Balmung needs any help or advice, add me to your social list and I will help however so that I can.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

No, you'd just whine about being attacked in the city after that.

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Not if they did it right... don't you think its a little alienating for a lvl 1 player who barely knows how to play, wonder up to a lvl 1 camp and be destroyed by some event mob they won't even be able to take part in before its gone?

Whine? WHINE? whine schmien, this could've been a lot cooler... Like when I logged in after that patch that added atomos and those airships, I.. uhh didn't have my texture quality very high ( =<= ) and I thought that the fleet of airships was a fleet of Atomoses... really freaked me out and had me stoked at the same time, deffinetly would have made it feel more apocalyptic.

So like this thread should be renamed. I haven't heard such complaining since... oh gosh I don't know if I have ever heard this much complaining before. Oh wait, back in my early days I did complain about power leveling newbs a bunch but gosh. This is a video game, info is everywhere, people are giving advice, so please stop whining.
You new people haven't been here for the long haul. Most of us have. No wonder a lot of people seem like douches? Do you realize how much crap we've been through?
If you don't like this now, step back, breathe, wait for 2.0, so dueces.

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Originally Posted by Xakery

So like this thread should be renamed. I haven't heard such complaining since... oh gosh I don't know if I have ever heard this much complaining before. Oh wait, back in my early days I did complain about power leveling newbs a bunch but gosh. This is a video game, info is everywhere, people are giving advice, so please stop whining.
You new people haven't been here for the long haul. Most of us have. No wonder a lot of people seem like douches? Do you realize how much crap we've been through?
If you don't like this now, step back, breathe, wait for 2.0, so dueces.

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I kind of have to agree.
World is ending, you die from the epic monsters that spawn, tough.
Welcome to the cold and unwelcoming world of 1.x

Don't Push the New people away , they are FFXIV:ARR Future! Just sayin'

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Don't Push the New people away , they are FFXIV:ARR Future! Just sayin'

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No one is "Pushing" the newbs away.

The game is on it's last lifeline (For this client anyway) news of the old game being destroyed by dealers everywhere so new players can buy ARR instead, are everywhere. The new players that came, did so at the wrong time (Especially at this time when the client won't be updated anymore) and automatically expect things to be easy from the get go when even level 50+s are having a bit of trouble. Most people here are being sensible and are telling him to at least wait until ARR is launched so things will be easier on him (Since his progression won't be saved in a week or so anyway).

1) go to la noscea
2) wait til after 0:00 and before 18:00
3) there is no 3

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Originally Posted by Donimo

While it can be annoying at certain camps, it's only at certain camps. You can always move elsewhere.

So far, Limsa Lominsa is a region safe from Atomos in its entirety. No headaches there.

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i hope you dont have any gathering/minning or quest at camp iron lake the imperials will wipe you out not to metion the magitek vangaurd h1 and the horde it aggros to you if you wander in aggro range as for me since i like the area the nodes close together to grind grade 5 and oh i forgot to metion that most people's af is in the mines there which is surrounded my a horde of imperials good lluck good times good fun lol

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

well thats rpg life ^

and thats the reason why in october no new accounts can be created anymore :) it will get tougher i think ;)

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yes tougher if your lrying to get your crafting all to lv 50 so its iratating to me as well as other ppl who are endgamers whome have all jobs to lv 50 and now in hurry mode to get the crafting to cap b4 nov 1

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Originally Posted by dragorian

i hope you dont have any gathering/minning or quest at camp iron lake the imperials will wipe you out not to metion the magitek vangaurd h1 and the horde it aggros to you if you wander in aggro range as for me since i like the area the nodes close together to grind grade 5 and oh i forgot to metion that most people's af is in the mines there which is surrounded my a horde of imperials good lluck good times good fun lol

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You forgot to mention the raptors and kobolds

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Originally Posted by AngelicBeing

All of you dicks saying "New players need to suck it up, you joined late so screw you, endoftheworldlol" are the same people that are gonna be condescending to ARR newcomers, and that's the last thing this game needs. Keep it up, when ARR hits and all the new players find are a bunch of capped douchebags not giving a damn about them, that could very well be the last nail in the coffin. New players are the only thing standing between you and the death of FFXIV, so cherish every one.

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False, don't blanket statement us dicks, maybe some of us are tired of the constant "SE installs new game feature, to improve the game/keep us interested/give us stuff to do buuttt, I'ma go to the forums to bitch anyways because I can't learn to adapt" from people?

I help newbies all the time, but I'm not going to bother listing what I do, because I'm not exactly a white knight.

All we're saying, is stop bitching after every new thing that gets put into the game, because every half hour you have to wait 5 mins for the MASSIVE amount of people to kill atomos and his minions.

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Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere

You forgot to mention the raptors and kobolds

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those are easy to deal with as for most of them are not infront of the node's i cant tell you how many dead gather's i had to revive on brd and getting killed as i got swarmed but any how they could of located them in a spot far away from the nodes they could of delt the high lv mobs that we dont ever go into and put them there same with atmos from the lv 20 encampments but it dont bother me too much till i try to lv botney or carpenter since they are low level bu heck to my guss se dont want new pple to playb4 nov1/11 nither try to get all crafting to capp either its so fusterating all i have is bard af bod to get i hope imperials arnt hangong around the instance but i might just go play guild wars 2 till arr come online

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Originally Posted by Mamba

True :D
I think I will move my exping to that area now, or maybe Grid as I haven't done many leves there.
Sadly I think Horizon is now taken too where I have been trying to lvl my THM but I think I'll go to Bloodshore from now on!

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Moving people away from Uldah. SUCCESS Too bad it came only in the final patch. :/

Mamba the voice of reason among the elitists within this thread.

But on another note, I'm hoping with 2.0, the community of FF14 in general both in game and on the forum improves.

I have an Idea =^,^= .. > all the high level elite's can guard those areas with thier lives..
this is time to let your true personalities shine..
show how elite you are by protecting those low levels..
help the ppl that need to quicly complete content to reach there goals..

I mean is having best gear in slot and standing afk in the city going to get you the respect you so desire.. no
Time for true hero's to rise up :P

ok enough sarcasm.. @OP > I am truly sorry for "the harshness of the <% current comunity"
and I too agree that those monsters should be at a lil higher camps only at least.. I hope you use the ways around it and all goes well =^,^= look forward to playing with u all in ARR /crazy excited..

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Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere

^HYPOCRITE.

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- I am actually standing up for new people and not whining my dear :)
- I haven't left Besaid, my character is still there. I made a new low level character so I can experience the lower level missions as they were meant to be experienced: as a lower level character.
- And I don't actually even know what you mean with the rest of the bits you highlighted lol :P

Tbh, I think this thread has gone long enough and it's very obvious that the forums are a very dangerous place for a person who has made the biggest sin and bought the game now that the world is coming to an end (lol). How dare new people start the game and post something on forums! haha

PS: YuriSan, I am actually a girl and you can see my pic on my ffxi profile on FFXIAH.com under name Sugarpanda on Siren ;)

I don't know, it makes sense to me that the end of the world should affect everyone.

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Originally Posted by Aku

I don't know, it makes sense to me that the end of the world should affect everyone.

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well said!
It would be stupid if they were like "let all the veterans go through the end of the era of the first attempt at ffxiv but we must not harm the people who start a month or two before we destroy this so they feel welcomed, loved, and get their stuff caught up"

This topic has made me pretty...
upset >_>
i wasn't one too complain about atamos at all, but half of the people here don't even seem to care for newer people who (and yes you always have these people) don't follow up on the latest news every single day, all these "well its the end off the world so get used to dieying" comments make my heart bleed and pray for the future off this game,

like somebody mentioned, don't scare your new people away, and at this rate you are doing just that :-/

i can understand why other newer people see this as an annoying thing, i have been avoiding area's and mainly have been playing in limsa now but i'm sure others still need to find this out over the weekend...

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Originally Posted by Mahouko

This topic has made me pretty...
upset >_>
i wasn't one too complain about atamos at all, but half of the people here don't even seem to care for newer people who (and yes you always have these people) don't follow up on the latest news every single day, all these "well its the end off the world so get used to dieying" comments make my heart bleed and pray for the future off this game,

like somebody mentioned, don't scare your new people away, and at this rate you are doing just that :-/

i can understand why other newer people see this as an annoying thing, i have been avoiding area's and mainly have been playing in limsa now but i'm sure others still need to find this out over the weekend...

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But you are missing a lot by grouping the people who have played this the longest. I've scrolled through the pages of this topic and the vets tell you new people how and when to avoid this. Oh my gosh, stop complaining new people and learn to read. The vets are saying, "hey look out and don't go to these places at x time or x hour"
Have a great day new people. Oh and don't worry about crying, the world will end soon enough. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Amyas

It doesn't even feel like there's a war going on... now if they had the Imp airships actually landing and invading the cities then maybe...

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You mean something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvEXkeHtf_g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlTL9i97UZM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeXEVG19fT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrcmpDvvWcs

And Atomos has nothing to do with the garleans, I think

Okay... this has gone beyond being overblown at this point, I think.

It's a few minutes per hour, at certain camps. It's perfectly safe for the rest of the time. You stand more chance of dying during a leve-quest than you do dying from Atomos, even not knowing that it spawns at all, much less when it does.

Why are people making this huge deal out of it?

Is 5 minutes or so of not being able to get to an aetheryte crystal seriously so ruinous to some people's enjoyment?

Really?

I seriously have a difficult time believing that. It seems like drama for drama's sake. People arguing just to argue.

Like I said in my previous post in this thread, level 50s have just as much chance of being dropped if they port into a camp at the wrong time. In other words: It's not exclusive to new players. New players are not being singled out in this. No one is exempt from it. Didn't know about the Atomos thing and got killed once due to bad timing? Well, now you know and so it shouldn't be a problem.

I got killed, too, because I ported in at the wrong time due to not knowing when it would be spawning. Did I flip out over it? No (thought it was pretty funny, to be honest). I found out the specifics of its spawn conditions, learned when it does and now know to avoid those camps at those times. Problem solved.

Why all this drama over so small a thing?

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Originally Posted by Donimo

While it can be annoying at certain camps, it's only at certain camps. You can always move elsewhere.

So far, Limsa Lominsa is a region safe from Atomos in its entirety. No headaches there.

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Tell it to the Leve desk. My question is, who the hell are they spawning this stuff for? The legions of level 50 people hanging out at Black Brush?? I guess I must be getting the infamous FF14 lag because I'm not seeing them.