When will PlayStation 4 support be stopped?

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Originally Posted by Kemiko

I'm of a different mindset for this. Part of the reason 1.0 failed so badly was how intensive it was on hardware. The Limsa opening in 1.0 barely ran on what was considered good gaming PCs at the time, nevermind if you had an average or below average gaming pc. A lot was wrong with 1.0 and its unfriendliness to user hardware was absolutely one of them.

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Oh I agree, but that also meant they literally couldn't make 1.0 it work on the PS3. But since they promised it would be on that console one of the top priorities for ARR was to make it run on the PS3. Which in hindsight should not have been a thing.

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Originally Posted by Kemiko

Also FFXIV ARR released 3 months before the PS4 did, nevermind that during their development of ARR they wouldn't have known about the exact specifications the PS4 would have.

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True, my bad. For some reason I remember ARR releasing in 2014.
But even 3 months before release SE, as a major 3rd party Playstation developer, would have probably already had information about the PS4's specs and a dev kit for it.
Potentially even earlier if you take into account that some other studios that released PS4 launch titles would have needed to develop for the new console way before it's release.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Both of you are simply describing the limitations of the PS4 itself not whether it impacts XIV's development. Unlike the PS3 where the devs literally couldn't add UI improvements without breaking the console, they haven't run into any noteworthy problems evident by the graphic update going through without a hitch, albeit in a very reduced state for the PS4.

Put simply, it running at 30 FPS and struggling to load 300+ hunt trains doesn't matter so long as it isn't impact the devs ability to add new features.



Obviously, only SE has those exact numbers, but it's hardly a reach to suggest a not insignificant amount of XIV players haven't upgraded when 50% of the entire Playstation playerbase hasn't. If that number remains high, there's simply no chance they drop support and risk losing them. Especially not when the overall XIV playerbase has been in a pretty steady decline since DT launched.



Not according to these articles which place the PS4 userbase at 59M

https://gamerant.com/ps5-sales-numbers-compared-ps4/
https://tech4gamers.com/playstation-users-half-ps4/

Even in your article, it still cites 50% of the Playstation install base is actively playing the PS4.

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Well both our articles are out of date as they were last year. Looking around though since June this year it's no longer an even split.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...he-first-time/

Hopefully they slash the price come Black Friday/Cyber Monday

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Hopefully they slash the price come Black Friday/Cyber Monday

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Sony just announced a $50 USD price increase to all SKUs of the PS5 effective tomorrow for customers in the USA.

PlayStation 5 – $549.99
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – $499.99
PlayStation 5 Pro – $749.99

https://blog.playstation.com/2025/08...es-in-the-u-s/

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Originally Posted by Rayne6665

Well shit... if that happens.. that'll be no more ff14 journey for me.. I'm on ps4 pro. Can't even afford a upgrade to PS5..my pro still runs strong. I'll get a ps5 when my pro finally dies down. Fuck man this sucks ass. I can't see myself playing other games other than 14 lol.

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Considering the fact that Yoshi-P seems to be strongly considering bringing FFXIV to the Switch 2, I wouldn't be very worried.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...ntasy-14-port/

Square Enix is actually very good about stretching their MMOs life span on hardware to the absolute possible limit. I'm not saying they definitely won't drop support for the PS4, so I would start putting back money little-by-little if you can, but I'd honestly be surprised if they drop PS4 support at 8.0.

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Originally Posted by Johners

Sony just announced a $50 USD price increase to all SKUs of the PS5 effective tomorrow for customers in the USA.

PlayStation 5 – $549.99
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – $499.99
PlayStation 5 Pro – $749.99

https://blog.playstation.com/2025/08...es-in-the-u-s/

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The frick? Geez. Like I can afford any of that. Maybe one day.

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Originally Posted by Rayne6665

The frick? Geez. Like I can afford any of that. Maybe one day.

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This is due to the tariffs against goods from Japan.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

This is due to the tariffs against goods from Japan.

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Oh I see..

Somewhat related to future console support, Yoshi-P has mentioned in an interview about positive discussions with Nintendo regarding a release of Final Fantasy XIV for the Nintendo Switch 2. The Switch 2 is largely similar to the Xbox Series S in terms of real world gaming performance so there's no reason why we couldn't have a playable release for Switch 2.

Source: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...ntasy-14-port/

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Originally Posted by Johners

Somewhat related to future console support, Yoshi-P has mentioned in an interview about positive discussions with Nintendo regarding a release of Final Fantasy XIV for the Nintendo Switch 2. The Switch 2 is largely similar to the Xbox Series S in terms of real world gaming performance so there's no reason why we couldn't have a playable release for Switch 2.

Source: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...ntasy-14-port/

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Yup, the Switch 2 hovers around PS4 Pro / Series S in terms of performance. That's more or less why I mentioned to Rayne6665 above not to worry

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Originally Posted by Shinku_Tachi

Yup, the Switch 2 hovers around PS4 Pro / Series S in terms of performance. That's more or less why I mentioned to Rayne6665 above not to worry

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The Switch 2 and Series S are arguably much better than the PS4 Pro due to user newer CPU and GPU architectures. I'd still exercise a degree of caution in expecting PS4 support to continue, especially when other mainstream live service/MMO games, such as Genshin Impact, are dropping PS4 support despite starting out on that platform.

Several other live service games are also dropping PS4 support this year including PUBG. PC-specific titles aren't far behind either in only supporting Windows 11 compatible PCs plus more Secure Boot/TPM requirements for anti-cheat solutions. Even World of Warcraft, a game that historically ran on toaster PCs, is listing an effectively PS5-equivalent system as the minimum system requirements for their next expansion pack due to release in the first half of 2026.

Late 2025 into 2026 is the time period where most major players wrap up their PS4 (and equivalent supports). If your favourite live service or MMO hasn't yet announced an end of life date for their PS4 client, I would recommend preparing for it just in case... even if that just means being prepared to quit the game.

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It was widely reported this week that Hoyoverse will discontinue PS4 support in Genshin Impact next year – but this is not an isolated move, with many other operators of major online and live service titles also eyeing up the timeline for dropping PS4 support.

Some of those decisions will be accelerated by technical concerns (Genshin Impact’s huge, streaming game world is especially awful on the slow hard drive that shipped in the PS4, and benefits massively from the SSD in more recent systems), but the tipping point is already in sight; installed bases of newer systems are high enough for lots of companies to start turning out the lights on PS4.

Source: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/sonys-...placed-opinion

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There's a new interview with Yoshi-P from gamescom and one of the questions was regarding future PS4 support. Square Enix and Sony have been working together to support the hardware for as long as possible but Sony are near the limit for what they'll do in order to keep the game running. While this doesn't confirm if PS4 support will be dropped with the release of 8.0, it's a sign that the end might be near.

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Some games have recently dropped PS4 support altogether. Can we expect FF14 to still support PS4 for the next expansion, at least 8.0 till the 8.5 series?

My basic stance is that I do want to continue supporting hardware which has grown old. But I do have one concern, and that's regarding the OS of the PlayStation 4, and this is regarding the hardware regulations which were made by Sony. These regulations are related to the limit of the data, and because there's that limit of the data, well, we are continually incorporating updates for Final Fantasy 14 and we are now approaching that limit. And so for this limit that's in place, we have been asking Sony Interactive Entertainment from our side to increase that just for Final Fantasy 14, and they have kindly been doing that so far. But they've told us now that they are also reaching their limits.

So I will repeat myself: I do want to provide support for platforms as long as possible. However, there will eventually come a time when the hardware is at its limits in terms of its technology, and at that point in time we would have to provide an end to the service on that hardware. But I will be sure to provide clear reasoning for that decision when I communicate it to the players.

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Source: https://feed4gamers.com/game-news/31...th-yoshi-p.htm

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Originally Posted by Johners

There's a new interview with Yoshi-P from gamescom and one of the questions was regarding future PS4 support. Square Enix and Sony have been working together to support the hardware for as long as possible but Sony are near the limit for what they'll do in order to keep the game running. While this doesn't confirm if PS4 support will be dropped with the release of 8.0, it's a sign that the end might be near.



Source: https://feed4gamers.com/game-news/31...th-yoshi-p.htm

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It's good that they're at least providing a bit of warning with a messaging like this. If 8.0 was intended, I'm sure he would have just said it, since it's already in production. But it's definitely not going to be all the way out to 10.0 like I was saying on the other page, since the wording indicates they're heading for an off-ramp sooner than later. So, I'd probably guess 9.0

Either way, whatever point 0; PS4 players that have been holding out now have a clear message to start saving up.

At this point, since we're only 2~3 years out from the PS6 now, I'd suggest PS4 console players wait it out for that, instead of running to the PS5, so you can be future-proofed when the inevitable PS5 EOS date comes.

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Originally Posted by Shinku_Tachi

It's good that they're at least providing a bit of warning with a messaging like this. If 8.0 was intended, I'm sure he would have just said it, since it's already in production. But it's definitely not going to be all the way out to 10.0 like I was saying on the other page, since the wording indicates they're heading for an off-ramp sooner than later. So, I'd probably guess 9.0

Either way, whatever point 0; PS4 players that have been holding out now have a clear message to start saving up.

At this point, since we're only 2~3 years out from the PS6 now, I'd suggest PS4 console players wait it out for that, instead of running to the PS5, so you can be future-proofed when the inevitable PS5 EOS date comes.

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SE likes to wait as long as possible to announce anything important to the players so they'll probably say something at fanfest at the earliest. (for reference, PS3 was dropped for Stormblood and the official post is dated after fanfest though I don't recall if they mentioned it during fanfest or not since I didn't go to that one and it wasn't streamed for free).

In my group for doing min ilvl content we have a member on PS4 Pro he said it was struggling when we were playing this past weekend actually, he has an Xbox Series S though so he'll probably just buy a license for that since it's on sale at the moment rather than buying a PS5.

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Originally Posted by Shinku_Tachi

It's good that they're at least providing a bit of warning with a messaging like this. If 8.0 was intended, I'm sure he would have just said it, since it's already in production. But it's definitely not going to be all the way out to 10.0 like I was saying on the other page, since the wording indicates they're heading for an off-ramp sooner than later. So, I'd probably guess 9.0

Either way, whatever point 0; PS4 players that have been holding out now have a clear message to start saving up.

At this point, since we're only 2~3 years out from the PS6 now, I'd suggest PS4 console players wait it out for that, instead of running to the PS5, so you can be future-proofed when the inevitable PS5 EOS date comes.

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You're not going to get years worth of notice, PS3 being dropped was at the fanfest before Stormblood, new pc requirements was at the fanfest before Dawntrail. Same with Xbox release.

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Originally Posted by Shinku_Tachi

It's good that they're at least providing a bit of warning with a messaging like this. If 8.0 was intended, I'm sure he would have just said it, since it's already in production. But it's definitely not going to be all the way out to 10.0 like I was saying on the other page, since the wording indicates they're heading for an off-ramp sooner than later. So, I'd probably guess 9.0

Either way, whatever point 0; PS4 players that have been holding out now have a clear message to start saving up.

At this point, since we're only 2~3 years out from the PS6 now, I'd suggest PS4 console players wait it out for that, instead of running to the PS5, so you can be future-proofed when the inevitable PS5 EOS date comes.

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The big questions with that is how unreasonably priced is the PS6 going to be and will it even be available in stores... Since PS5 launch was one hell of a thing.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

The big questions with that is how unreasonably priced is the PS6 going to be and will it even be available in stores... Since PS5 launch was one hell of a thing.

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I wouldn't exactly call the prices unreasonble when the consoles are still selling tens of millions of unit each year. The industry has changed and hardware prices are just higher across the board. Unfortunately this means some people have been priced out of the market and won't be able to keep playing FFXIV in the future.

If I had to make a guess for the PS6, I'd say $600-700 USD. The PS5 launched at roughly the same price as the PS4 Pro which Microsoft matched with the Xbox Series X and One X pricing.

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Originally Posted by enthauptet

SE likes to wait as long as possible to announce anything important to the players so they'll probably say something at fanfest at the earliest. (for reference, PS3 was dropped for Stormblood and the official post is dated after fanfest though I don't recall if they mentioned it during fanfest or not since I didn't go to that one and it wasn't streamed for free).

In my group for doing min ilvl content we have a member on PS4 Pro he said it was struggling when we were playing this past weekend actually, he has an Xbox Series S though so he'll probably just buy a license for that since it's on sale at the moment rather than buying a PS5.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

You're not going to get years worth of notice, PS3 being dropped was at the fanfest before Stormblood, new pc requirements was at the fanfest before Dawntrail. Same with Xbox release.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

The big questions with that is how unreasonably priced is the PS6 going to be and will it even be available in stores... Since PS5 launch was one hell of a thing.

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All true and good points.

Yeah, I remember getting my PS5 at launch, whew! That was a mess. Though, I put that on covid and lockdowns, creating the big-time shortage on chips and components causing that. Even for console launch shortages, especially PlayStation shortages, that's an outlier. I wouldn't expect the PlayStation 6 to have to deal with anything like that, unless the console launch year also comes with another major pandemic.

The main concern, as you mentioned, is the price. (Though I personally don't expect it to be too far and ahead of the PS5 Pro or anything, tbh)

But yeah, all great points you three. :)

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

The big questions with that is how unreasonably priced is the PS6 going to be and will it even be available in stores... Since PS5 launch was one hell of a thing.

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Bigger questions. Will it have any good games or just a bunch of 80+ dollar AAA slop?

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Bigger questions. Will it have any good games or just a bunch of 80+ dollar AAA slop?

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Firstly I wouldn't be surprised if it's late 2028/early 2029 and as for games I can see them being 90+ lol

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Bigger questions. Will it have any good games or just a bunch of 80+ dollar AAA slop?

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At launch? Doubtful.

But gems like Expedition 33 caught a lot of us by surprise, so who knows.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Bigger questions. Will it have any good games or just a bunch of 80+ dollar AAA slop?

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Probably not any exclusives... Sony's not gonna make anything worthwhile themselves.
So, anything good is also going to be on pretty much every platform.

Which does kind of add to the question of why not get a PC instead of PS6...

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Which does kind of add to the question of why not get a PC instead of PS6...

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Why would u choose and not buy both :P

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Why would u choose and not buy both :P

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Because not everyone has a few thousand in expendable cash at all times.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Probably not any exclusives... Sony's not gonna make anything worthwhile themselves.
So, anything good is also going to be on pretty much every platform.

Which does kind of add to the question of why not get a PC instead of PS6...

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I prefer the simplicity of playing on console, that's why I like it.

Nothing extra, doesn't require any additional tinkering or whatever, you just pop in your game (or download your game) and go.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Because not everyone has a few thousand in expendable cash at all times.

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LMAO a few thousand I've bought 2 pcs (about 3k) in the whole lifetime of 14 including 1.0 and Ps3,4 and 5 so total around 4.5k that's around £370 a year and i'm being generous there as I didnt buy all consoles new.

They kept PS3 up for a long time until they basically couldn't.

Regardless when the time comes PS4 owners will have a heads up ahead of time.