Can we please have a definitive answer regarding Hats for both Viera and Hrothgar

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Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse

Umm were both those races not in SB launch? So wouldn't that be closer to 7 years ago?

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Nope it was for Shadowbringers, Stormblood had no races.

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Originally Posted by CuteBucket

It's funny how they act like it's a quality control issue when Au Ra horns clip through a bunch of head gear in a way that's ugly and makes no sense (I have an au ra alt and finding good headpieces for her can be a challenge) and yet they won't let Viera, Hrothgar, or now even Miqo'te ears clip through the hats when that looks better than hiding them anyway. No rhyme or reason to any of it.

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You are so right on that, my god xD Like they want to be perfect with everything yet AuRa Horns look extremely ugly on 70% of all headgear!

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Originally Posted by Xellith

FFXIV is mismanaged. Change my mind.

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I won't, because I agree, and you are right.
The ones responsible for the Ingame glamour need to step things up...

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Originally Posted by Sekundessounet

Nope it was for Shadowbringers, Stormblood had no races.

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Sorry I thought the Stormblood acronym was StB not SB. Also time flies...over 5 years ago not 7.

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Originally Posted by CuteBucket

It's even bleeding over into Miqo'te. So many hats since in the last few years just hide the ears entirely and it really bothers me. There's a mod out there called "Free The Cat Ears" on a certain website that fixes this for over 100 items and lets the ears show on hats where it makes sense to have them poke out, similar to the Viera Hats mod that just lets the ears clip through the hat.

It's funny how they act like it's a quality control issue when Au Ra horns clip through a bunch of head gear in a way that's ugly and makes no sense (I have an au ra alt and finding good headpieces for her can be a challenge) and yet they won't let Viera, Hrothgar, or now even Miqo'te ears clip through the hats when that looks better than hiding them anyway. No rhyme or reason to any of it.

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It boggles my mind that a single person can accomplish for free in about a week what a company that is paid for cannot. Worse yet is the fact that I would not care if they just did the work going forward...but they do not; I am not expecting old gear to work; but there is no good excuse why all new gear does not account for player choice.

One other thing I've gotten really annoyed about is Wuk Lamat's tail holder, but us the players just have the tail outright removed or clipping through clothing awkwardly now. Like it can be the same 1 or 2 tail holders each time, but come on give us something. Miqo'te being the most popular race no longer means anything I guess

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Originally Posted by Apolline

One other thing I've gotten really annoyed about is Wuk Lamat's tail holder, but us the players just have the tail outright removed or clipping through clothing awkwardly now. Like it can be the same 1 or 2 tail holders each time, but come on give us something. Miqo'te being the most popular race no longer means anything I guess

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That, and how she always has claws while other Hrothgar don't. I know it's most likely tied to her outfit, but still.

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

That, and how she always has claws while other Hrothgar don't. I know it's most likely tied to her outfit, but still.

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Yes!!! Claws on her hands and feet too. I sent a suggestion in when viera were first released that, F Viera should have a version of their racial gloves with claws since they are going for the Fran look, but nothing after all this time.

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Originally Posted by CuteBucket

It's even bleeding over into Miqo'te. So many hats since in the last few years just hide the ears entirely and it really bothers me. There's a mod out there called "Free The Cat Ears" on a certain website that fixes this for over 100 items and lets the ears show on hats where it makes sense to have them poke out, similar to the Viera Hats mod that just lets the ears clip through the hat.

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About 2 years ago, I made a post entirely dedicated to this, noting that with each passing day, fewer hats accommodated the Miqo'te ears. I stopped playing and only came back to do comic RP with some friends, and I see that the situation has only gotten worse. Every new year, there's an excuse, both from the company and from players who think it's wrong to criticize poor service. It started with "COVID," moved to "the expansion took a lot of time because it was the end of an arc," reached "the graphic overhaul overwhelmed us," and now I'm waiting for the next excuse to mark off on my bingo card.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-racial-traits

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Originally Posted by CuteBucket

It's funny how they act like it's a quality control issue when Au Ra horns clip through a bunch of head gear in a way that's ugly and makes no sense (I have an au ra alt and finding good headpieces for her can be a challenge) and yet they won't let Viera, Hrothgar, or now even Miqo'te ears clip through the hats when that looks better than hiding them anyway. No rhyme or reason to any of it.

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I suspect they do this because there is no way to hide the Au'ra horns without leaving a hole in their face and causing more work for them; otherwise, they would start removing the horns just like they're doing with the ears and tails. Although many people find the horns clipping through helmets strange, I prefer that to having the only thing that separates an Au'ra from a Hyur removed. I even feel envious of them because the horns have never been removed, whereas my ears, which are the ONLY thing that separates me from a Hyur, have already been shown to be removable.

Adding my support.

There are hairstyles and hats I purchased on the Mogstation before this race was released that I still cannot use.
There was no warning on those items when I purchased them that they would in fact not be useable at the time of purchase.
It wasn't until well after the races released that that text was added.

It's just gross incompetence on their part.

The only reason I haven't popped the free fantasia yet is because I haven't decided what to switch to yet. Having either made an alt or a fantasia of every race, it's down to going back to either my old Au Ra or my old Miqo'te, but I'm waffling on it. I dunno, what do you all think?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWF8JdVXEAAZgAp.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA_BIVKXoAAyfK2.jpg

Probably have to make a few tweaks because of the graphics updates anyway, haven't really looked into it yet.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

The only reason I haven't popped the free fantasia yet is because I haven't decided what to switch to yet. Having either made an alt or a fantasia of every race, it's down to going back to either my old Au Ra or my old Miqo'te, but I'm waffling on it. I dunno, what do you all think?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWF8JdVXEAAZgAp.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA_BIVKXoAAyfK2.jpg

Probably have to make a few tweaks because of the graphics updates anyway, haven't really looked into it yet.

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I love the colors on that Au Ra, she looks awesome, very Mystique.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I dunno, what do you all think?

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I am a biased person who really likes the Viera aesthetically and in terms of lore (which is why I don't change). But if I had to choose something among the other races, I would go back to Miqo'te. IDK, I don't like Au'ras.

Fun fact: I used to play as a Miqo'te before SHB, and thanks to a joke made in my old FC (when we didn't even know there wouldn't be male Viera), where they said "imagine a muscular male Dark Knight tanking a boss with bunny ears and tail," it made me look into the race and fall in love, especially with the mysticism around the males being reclusive.

Fingers crossed for 8.0 /s

Okay see this is actual bs to the point I'm bumping a thread from like page 4. Who in the blazes okayed that actual Artifact Gear that SE themselves holds as this sacred iconic gear but then turned around and decided that Viera and Hrothgar don't need to be able to show the helm. Like what the hell? It sucks even more cause I like the DRG set, but without the helm it just looks goofy.

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Originally Posted by Dexion

Fingers crossed for 8.0 /s

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Your wig, Sir.
https://i.imgur.com/EkNcIuj.jpg

I'd say the fishy Xaela. But I might be a bit biased because my main is a blue fishy faced Xaela.

While even the new hats that work for other races still don't work for viera/hrothgar, I wouldn't say no progress has been made.

Instead, when you take a gander over some other other races, particularly at elezen ears and miqote ears(tails too!) being chopped off it seems evident that there's been a regression as far as tailoring gear to races goes.

They did give them a few hats through holiday events. Not to defend what they haven't done though, but they raise the questions of what they should do about ears.

The little ladies' crown is just a tiny little crown and is placed so it doesn't interfere with ears.

The Wake Doctor's mask just lets viera ears poke through.

The Phoenix Riser helmet encases Viera ears in sheaths. Some didn't like that, I thought it was great.

The Thug's Mug can be worn by Hrothgar but not Viera, which is weird because it's a full head replacement, but it also accommodates for ears on many races, though somewhat weirdly.

It feels like they may be testing the waters. Whatever they do is going to be criticized.

The issue is similar for Miqo'te. While they can wear all hats, many don't accommodate ears and I find them useless. When I put on the Pictomancer's baret I thought her face looked weird and squished. I realized it was because the ears were just chopped off. It would be even worse if they did that to Viera.

My thought always was that they were waiting for both genders and the graphic update to do it. Like, why make all these hats in low-res to have to redo them anyway later ? Or come back to them for the release of the other gender when you could do all of them in one go ?

And now it's really disappointing to see that the issue still remains even on the new DT gear. They really need to tackle the subject in the PLLs for 7.1.

Personally, though this would likely mean far too much extra work, I think it would be ideal to have an option to either have ears appear and poke through with whatever clipping being the price you pay for seeing them. Or you can turn the ears off so you just see the helm on the head without ears, ideal if you have a character trying to hide their ears.

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Originally Posted by Haami

Before anything, I would like to clarify that this isn't in any way shape or form an attack on the developers, company or game, and if as a player you do not care about this problem, please be kind with what you write, as this is very important to a lot of people.

This topic has been swept under the rug and not addressed for a very long time, and I honestly think the Players deserve better, we at least deserve a Definitive Answer to this issue and topic.

and yes, it is regarding the currant and ongoing issue with hats still being a problem for Both Viera and Hrothgar..


It honestly makes me Question why is an MMORPG game in 2019-2024 adding a race without making sure its 100% ready.. and if hats were never going to be wearable by both races.. why not just say it? instead of keeping us hopeful to each patch only to end up getting disappointed.


Please Square Enix, give us an answer.

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How about the unique way of not being able to wear hats in general, I think it is a really nice feature as it is, that not just have to be able to wear whatever any other specie is, as it is, if hats is so important to you, pick roeg, hyer, miqote or whatever instead....

As Hrothgar myself, then I like it not having to be like everyone else and also most hats would look stupid on both hrothgar and viera.

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Originally Posted by Xellith

FFXIV is mismanaged. Change my mind.

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I'm not going to lol. The direction of this game continues to go off course again and again.

What kills me is that there's mods allowing for the hats. You can go on nexus right now and get mods that fixes 99% of head pieces for both. So why tf can't SQ do the same???

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Originally Posted by heynowjose

What kills me is that there's mods allowing for the hats. You can go on nexus right now and get mods that fixes 99% of head pieces for both. So why tf can't SQ do the same???

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Unfortunately japanese culture wouldn't allow them to hire/buy that hat mod. Meanwhile american/western developers officially endorse modding or specific mods and aren't shy about officially endorsing them.

square enix forgets that it was modders that fixed ffxi into a playable state.

If there's any mod they should be it should be viera's/hrothgar's hat mod. The fact that they haven't done so is an incredible blunder by them and makes one wonder if they really care about those who play viera/hrothgar. going into 6 years next year of no hats makes one wonder if those next "10 years of ffxiv" are really worth it.