Message to solo players

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Originally Posted by Northman

It is in vain to continue, if you plan to get through black mage or other new class leves solo or duo. You will need four people group. I found this when trying as bm in Aurum Vale. My motivation is now at end. Good luck who still stand. And Group slaves, this was not for you ;)

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Oh noes! Well, extreme soloing isn't cutting in a MMO

Why do "solo players" subscribe to this kind of game? And why do these players cry so much because things aren't as solo friendly in this kind of game(even though they actually are in this game)? This game belongs to a genre called MASSIVE multiplayer online RPG, for crying out loud. Do they even read this before they get the game?

o.O I solo play for the most part and have no issues with it. I also know that I'm part of a good ls that when I need help they will help me. I'm not complaining

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Originally Posted by Northman

Ok I made a mistake with this thread. When I reached 50 thaum, it was so natural to continue BLM leves. Didn't know it was not meant for me. No time to read the long descriptions what is to come. Leves were nice and some fights dynamite. After the 4 people fence I decided to warn if there are similar soloers that they don't waste time and make the same error. You get sympathy from me. You made good fight for your home town.

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There is nothing wrong about trying to solo/duo your way through the game. I've leveled most of my classes solo with a friend by doing Guildleves. But, in all fairness, you have to expect that FFXIV (like other MMO's) will have content which is supposed to be tackled with a group. For example, Primals, Hamlets, Dungeons, etc. It's an MMO afterall.

But also, trying to solo content which was meant for a group can also be a challenge for people.

Then again, you mentioned before that you don't want to be a "Group Slave" or participate in a party with "Bad Leadership". That's fine. But, there are other people who are willing to help you out with (for instance) the Aurum Vale AF. Wouldn't that be worth a shot? Granted, you would not have aquired the AF on your own, but you would still have it.

Even though the Black Mage job was meant for Parties, you would still be able to use it as you see fit while soloing. There is nothing holding you back. So, i don't think it would be fair to "us" (referring to the people who want to solo, but still want to finish the Job Quests/Dungeons/Primals/etc) by warning us that our efforts would be in "vain" because we can't solo a certain part of a quest/content. But what about the people who would offer to help you to get the item you want? Personally, i would feel like i got slapped in the face if someone would decline my offer to help out "just" because (s)he would think it would be a waste of their time because (s)he couldn't solo it themselves.

Again, there is nothing bad about wanting to solo content. You would simply be playing the game at your own pace. But think about this... There are (like minded) people in the game (even on your server) who like to help others out in time of need. Not every party is a "badly managed group where the leader treats its members as slaves" type of group.

http://grieversig.homestead.com/FFXIV_1342028442.jpg

Whm + War (or pally) duos have always been my favorite. With that you can pretty much do anything outside of instanced play.

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Originally Posted by Northman

Yeah this was great game also to solo. I only got disappointed as I could almost reach BM status without big group. In that time I have to spend for this game. They decided to make this for people who have time to queue to groups. So sad. And bad business idea these days. Main lines sd be open for everybody and hard tasks like for bigger groups. Thanks for all I have met here and welcome to ask help or chat in newer mmo's. I'm sure u will recognize me.

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Go play Skyrim or a co-op RPG then. The playerbase clearly wants group content. I'm surprised you still play this game despite your original post that made you famous for being a....

Class is best suited for solo play as the dev themselves mention, and switching to a job will make you a specialist in that role best suited for group content. That is why a perfect balance between these content is key. I think we have to have both because you cant have yin without yang

2.0 will most likely have tons of solo play content, moreso than 4 leve allowances every 8 hours or whatever it is.

I never understood the whole "IT'S AN MMO YOU SHOULD HAVE TO PLAY WITH OTHER PEOPLE" thing. He actually hit a point in his inane rant. That's a bad business model, and nobody cares what hardcore tryhards care about when it comes to making money.

There are good solo players who accept their place in an MMO world and enjoy it, then there is the OP.

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Originally Posted by Aldora

Not every party is a "badly managed group where the leader treats its members as slaves" type of group.

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QFT. Methinks the op had one bad experience with a pt and now thinks they're all like that. I think you need to find a good ls with helpful people (not hard to find if you're willing to put forth some effort) to help you get pt quests done. This game is solo friendly (I like to solo a lot too, and I am still able to do many things), but it isn't anti-social friendly.

Rokien made a spare account?

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Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong

Sorry to burst your bubble, but FFXIV is a multiplayer game.

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Its funny 'cause you can solo 90% of the content... k maybe like 70% but still... its funny. Wish they'd make more moderate duo-trio stuff. Leve sharing gets old the way the current system is set up

Too bad it only takes less than 5 minutes to get your BLM AF if you weren't lazy enough to just make a group of four or more of people willing to enter instance with you. GL soloing mistress/ifrit/moogle/garuda/all other AF(in instance)/last AF quest/hamlet/GC last quest/skirmish.

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

Northman, I'm a casual gamer, and you're inciting my own rage and disapointment.

There is plenty, of content out there that is solo capable. There is nothing at all that prevents your Thaumaturge from reaching level 50, or any of your classes for that matter.

But please understand that 'Jobs' are a party function. You unlock them to change your class into a role specifically for the utilization of other people.

"Black Mage" and "Solo" are not two words you should be using together for anything meaningful, and that includes your Artifact armor.

Additionally, you've yet to truely explain what your animosity is against partying with others. You state issues about waiting around for a group to get together, but this matter is already in the process of being addressed with Content Finder.

The reason why you're getting such a harsh reaction is that your complains belie the lack of information you have, as well as they are unreasonable given the context of what you are talking about.

I am a soloist for much of this game and I do agree that some content must be soloable to keep players sustained to prevent burn-out on party based content.

But Jobs and AF isn't it.

So please stow away the outspoken disappointment for now. We are at the end of the 1.xx era of FFXIV and there is much on the horizon.

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One of the most rational responses I have ever read on this forum...

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Originally Posted by Rukira

Rokien made a spare account?

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At least Rokien Types Intelligently. also makes sense until he decides to take his OP and wind it up into a Cluster of wtf is this dude on about.

Better join a linkshell quick, you might enjoy it. :)

Hello Northman,

I am not sure if you new to Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy big collection of games over many years. In all Final Fantasy games party and teamwork important. They all show how people get together to beat enemies. Not just to fight in battle, but main part of 'story' is how to work together.

That is how FFXIV is as well. Show how team work lets you win. That can not change. TO change that would mean no more final fantasy.

For you, maybe good idea to join linkshell or make friends. Go win quests together. Get AF and fight tougher mobs. Good big linkshell have 'events' organized (once a week, go get AF). This can help you. This is how FFXIV work. Please find a way to work with it.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Northman

This was my first MMO and I expected a lot. But I'm so disappointed, even angry. Was that the purpose of game designers ? I'm solo player though, but still polite to everybody. I don't want to be anybody's slave and under bad command, sorry. Players don't like solo players. One even brought coco's ass to my mouth when I was standing in desert. He expected me to be beginner and solo and was angry. - I was waiting chocobo hard. But it was not sold to me like to others. When I was accepted to army I tried to buy it but I could not pass the cave leve alone. It is not allowed to solos. I spent all money (250000) to supports, but it was not even nearly enough. The first army leves I can pass only when 30. I sd wait choco until 30 when others get it in 25's and only because I'm solo. Do you think I sd pay of this kind teasing. If I think also the big bugs I meet every day huh. In real word I have served in army and being commander. When I used a weapon, it worked. Here I must wait minutes that I can hit once. Is this made for 80 years old mummies ? Why you didn't tell that this game is not for solo players ? Merry Christmas to everybody anyway ! I will find something better to do.

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So yeah, it's this guy again...
Original link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...598#post491598

Look, I'm not trying to be mean, but it seems you only wish to solo this game (maybe because there aren't many players in your native language?) I don't know your reasons, but it's not really a game designed for soloists. It's designed to be played in groups. So either:
1. Accept that you will either not be able to do 100% of content solo
2. Need to occasionally group up to get some content you wish to clear done
3. Get some of your RL friends to play so you can communicate in your native language (again sorry if English IS your primary language)
4. Face your fears and join a social ls...or 4. You don't have to talk in shell or anything. But if you see 'Aurum Veil anyone?' say 'sure' and jump in and get your clears that way.

But if none of this works for you, then maybe, you'd be better served to play a different game, designed for single players.

Could we maybe just get three Aegis players to volunteer to help him out?

You can always just craft and gather.

Well this sucks, seeing how NO ONE IN THE GAME HELPS ME!

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Originally Posted by charlemagne

Could we maybe just get three Aegis players to volunteer to help him out?

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Thank you but he did already leave and does not have an account anymore.

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Originally Posted by vax

Go play a singleplayer game and stop wasting your time on XIV.

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This +1

This is a MMO why would you want to solo all content in a MMO..? kind of misses the point of it being a multiplayer game does it not?

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

In real word I have served in army and being commander. When I used a weapon, it worked. Here I must wait minutes that I can hit once

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oh god that thread was so win!

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Originally Posted by Ricky

seriously quitting over aurum vale AF? just make an attempt to get 3 people and do it, it will take 15 minutes

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hes gonna be really pissed when he finds out he has to complete most of Darkhold before he can get into AV