Skirmish!

I'll answer for SE:

If you're casual, do that.

If you're hardcore go after Relic.

Simple as that. The only problem would be if SE catered more to the casual base, which then you should be complaining about balance.

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Originally Posted by Gukswar

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Coucou,

L’équipe de développement m’a confirmé que le taux d’obtention des récompenses sera plus élevé en escarmouche que dans les autres activités pour joueurs de haut niveau (donjons instanciés / Primordiaux etc.). Aussi, il sera uniquement possible d’obtenir des armes avec les escarmouches. Les récompenses de ce contenu sont avant tout dédiées aux joueurs n’ayant pu venir à bout de Garuda, c’est pour cette raison qu’il s’agit une nouvelle fois d’armes et non d’autres équipements.


Well what a dissapointment- according to a french gm-

Skirmish weapon will be equal to our current endgame weapons-
also easier to obtain-
this is not a endgame content-
it is created for players who don't have time to play this game and not GOOD ENOUGH to win or obtain endgame weapons. I OVER EXAGGERATED the translation on this sentence, but that's what they really mean >.>
they can enjoy this game with a shorter period of time getting similar weapon to endgamers.
the fight is easier and drop rate is fairly higher.

So se let me ask you this... what's the point of doing relic and fighting primal
If I can just do skirmish and get stuff quicker and spend less time.... why would we aim for those weapons?

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I am sorry but you know this game has a rating of 13+, you shouldn't be stealing mommy's and daddy's credit card, they should send you to a corner..

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Originally Posted by Giit

we don't even know what "endgame" is yet. :p

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AV/CC/Primals.

just no it would be nice if they tuned down the luck factor

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Originally Posted by Raubahn

just no it would be nice if they tuned down the luck factor

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from the french post, it would seem that they have done just that.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

AV/CC/Primals.

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what i mean is, we're all still in the transitional introduction phase of development and implementation of content. we have yet to see the end of the game type gear/weapons/etc. do we even know if level 50 will be the immediate cap when 2.0 becomes a real thing? for now, i guess you're right, what we have at the top is "endgame" but i consider it all temporary shills for what's in store for us later.

Funny, I'm looked up pgl/mnk weapons on mooglebox, and there's 18 at lvl 50; 15 if you don't count unfinished sphairai/sphairai (as they're mnk only) and avengers (as they're pgl only).


15 weapons at lvl 50 for pgl/mnk.

Do we really need more weapons?

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Originally Posted by Theplatter

Funny, I'm looked up pgl/mnk weapons on mooglebox, and there's 18 at lvl 50; 15 if you don't count unfinished sphairai/sphairai (as they're mnk only) and avengers (as they're pgl only).


15 weapons at lvl 50 for pgl/mnk.

Do we really need more weapons?

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are you complaining about having options? Oo

I consider that a promising start to a game we can customize a bit more than we can today.

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Originally Posted by Giit

are you complaining about having options? Oo

I consider that a promising start to a game we can customize a bit more than we can today.

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I'm complaining that they're focusing too much on weapons and not enough on the other slots. Wouldn't you rather have Ifrit drop some body armor or an att+ belt, or Skirmish drop items like an Uldahn teleport ring with 30 charges?

Take a look at this page and tell me that at least three lvl 50 weapons don't have stats that are near-identical:

http://www.mooglebox.com/weapon/pugilist.php

It would have been too much like FFXI if the primals dropped multiple gear, and we know how much people hate for any FFXI concepts to creep up into XIV.

SE wanted to keep the suicide rate low :D

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Originally Posted by Theplatter

I'm complaining that they're focusing too much on weapons and not enough on the other slots. Wouldn't you rather have Ifrit drop some body armor or an att+ belt, or Skirmish drop items like an Uldahn teleport ring with 30 charges?

Take a look at this page and tell me that at least three lvl 50 weapons don't have stats that are near-identical:

http://www.mooglebox.com/weapon/pugilist.php

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I get what you mean, but I'm sure you see the process unfolding, elemental differences, significant stat differences (attack speed, etc.). options like that let us evaluate our setup for best results in a range of encounters. along with these changes, we have the obvious improvements to gear at each step as well, there's no way to know what's in store for future patches unless you're on board with the SE dev team. personally i prefer to accept the options given, and be as optimistic as I can about delivery of future changes like you're expecting (armor, consumables, etc.) I see the fact that there's no 1 stop for everything you need as a good thing :)

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Originally Posted by Elexia

It would have been too much like FFXI if the primals dropped multiple gear, and we know how much people hate for any FFXI concepts to creep up into XIV.

SE wanted to keep the suicide rate low :D

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As long as Alexander drops an awesome shield, I'll be happy.

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Originally Posted by Gukie

Hello, Skirmish should drop better weapon then relic just so, even noob players can get good weapons good idea Thumbs up!!

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Can already get Ifrit weapons as well as GC weapons.

If Skirmish Weapons drop like candy, they are better alternatives for people who can't do Primals or farm up the seals for promotions etc.

The stats are soso, but they are sidegrades for the extra casual players.

you can double meld them holy shiet whitemage can tank even better now ;o Spell interuptio +50!!