The event is now live. :O

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Originally Posted by Iscah

That isn't remotely what you wrote in your reply to my previous post.

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Actually, there is a way you can get that content, but I don't think they would do that because of technical reasons but New Game + would be a good place imo.

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That was my idea, you can use NG+ to get information about 1.0 and stuff like that. I am sorry if you think differently about what I say. That is my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

Other MMO events usually respect the brain of the playerbase and let them actually play the game instead of watching cutscenes for 20 minutes for a freebie reward.

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Too true, man. What a disappointment this event has been.

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Originally Posted by NekiUno

That was my idea, you can use NG+ to get information about 1.0 and stuff like that. I am sorry if you think differently about what I say. That is my opinion.

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But the quote you've provided from your first post is definitely not "saying that 2018 Rising event was the best one".

And in any case, you're using the phrase "that content" to mean something other than what I was talking about, which was the specific claim of 1.0 content being recreated for the 2018 Rising, which as far as I recall did not ever happen.

As I said: all they added for the Rising (to my awareness) was a single battle instance in Ul'dah that didn't even involve altering the present-day model for Ul'dah besides the sky, not "half the world from legacy including it’s world events, music and the fall of Dalamud". So either Supersnow was playing a different game to the one I was playing at that point, or they're reminiscing on a better past event that never actually happened.

So, where was I supposed to go for the half a world of legacy content during the 2018 Rising?

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

Other MMO events usually respect the brain of the playerbase and let them actually play the game instead of watching cutscenes for 20 minutes for a freebie reward.

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Looks like it fits this community perfectly to me, looking at how happy people are that they get to watch the same movie back to back non stop for multiple hours for a mount or a pet at the end, the players are at fault for the mediocrity of the events in FFXIV, because the standards are non existent

You and I may disagree a lot, but a majority of the players in this game is actually just like Vel, they are a good image of the playerbase as a whole.

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

The first letter in the post-quest list definitely made me laugh unintentionally though. The very first message you can read speaks about the importance of the forums and it just feels so hollow when they never reply to anything here.

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Yes, citizen, it's just lip service at this point.




Keep the wind in your sails.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

But the quote you've provided from your first post is definitely not "saying that 2018 Rising event was the best one".

And in any case, you're using the phrase "that content" to mean something other than what I was talking about, which was the specific claim of 1.0 content being recreated for the 2018 Rising, which as far as I recall did not ever happen.

As I said: all they added for the Rising (to my awareness) was a single battle instance in Ul'dah that didn't even involve altering the present-day model for Ul'dah besides the sky, not "half the world from legacy including it’s world events, music and the fall of Dalamud". So either Supersnow was playing a different game to the one I was playing at that point, or they're reminiscing on a better past event that never actually happened.

So, where was I supposed to go for the half a world of legacy content during the 2018 Rising?

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So what quote is it then, the only things I was talking about was PTSD during the 1.0, The Rising 2018 and I would love it to have something like that for the younger players who was not in the game at that time or who was not there experienced it like myself and other here.

Best part of the event is having Rival Wing alive. The actual thing was just another a few dialogues with no gameplay involved. Just how the previous events are sadly.

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

Other MMO events usually respect the brain of the playerbase and let them actually play the game instead of watching cutscenes for 20 minutes for a freebie reward.

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I don't know about ESO as I have never been to one of their seasonal events but uh.... the events in WoW have been almost the exact same for the last 19 years. That's... not exactly respectful of to the brains of the playerbase to make them farm the exact same bosses and activities for 19 years with a very rare occasional small addition.

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Originally Posted by Yushees

Best part of the event is having Rival Wing alive. The actual thing was just another a few dialogues with no gameplay involved. Just how the previous events are sadly.

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I agree that RW is the best part. But I like the Rising storylines, they always feel special to me. The letters from the devs this year were also pretty neat and the moogle minigame is cute!

Edit: The mount sucks, because it's a "transformation" aka they couldnt make your char on it work and so pretend like it's supposed to be your char transforming

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

I don't know about ESO as I have never been to one of their seasonal events but uh.... the events in WoW have been almost the exact same for the last 19 years. That's... not exactly respectful of to the brains of the playerbase to make them farm the exact same bosses and activities for 19 years with a very rare occasional small addition.

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False.

They added a lot of small events, called micro events or something like that, that are actually brand new, dont last long, a day or a few days, but are pretty recurrent, the old ones though are pretty much the same yes, but they added a lot of new micro events.

2018 was the Rising event with the instanced Ul'dah where you had to run around killing enemies like it was the end of 1.23, yeah? That was definitely my favorite Rising event so far, followed by the one with the instance where we could run around and speak with the developers on the Eighteenth Floor. (Still waiting for that Doomtrain minion, guys!)

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

2018 was the Rising event with the instanced Ul'dah where you had to run around killing enemies like it was the end of 1.23, yeah? That was definitely my favorite Rising event so far, followed by the one with the instance where we could run around and speak with the developers on the Eighteenth Floor. (Still waiting for that Doomtrain minion, guys!)

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Well, we did sort of eventually get a Doomtrain minion.... kinda.

Also, speaking of 1.0, it seems

the second set of quests for the Rising event (the one with the writer researching for Louisoix's biography), was actually also SE's way of finally putting requests to bring 1.0 back as a 'FFXIV Classic' game to rest, by instead summarising the events of 1.0's Seventh Umbral Era storyline through this quest line (and further reinforced by the reward for it being the 'End of an Era' portrait theme for Adventurer Plates).

So for those still holding out hope that Yoshi may one day bring 1.0 back in some form... sorry guys, looks like that airship has now sailed.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

If anything that's sad, not funny. If I were a new player I'd stop playing if I had to sit through ARR till EW getting bosses that die within their introductory monologue. Bonus points if the MSQ hyped them up for 20 hours. Do people also enjoy movies where the main antagonist dies off screen within the first 30 minutes only for the actors to shuffle about for another hour? lol I don't think this is even remotely acceptable but in XIV it's praised. By all means, make them soloable through trusts or whatever but at least stop dumbing them down to the point of caricature.

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I feel sorry for anyone that started in Shadowbringers or Endwalker.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

If anything that's sad, not funny. If I were a new player I'd stop playing if I had to sit through ARR till EW getting bosses that die within their introductory monologue. Bonus points if the MSQ hyped them up for 20 hours. Do people also enjoy movies where the main antagonist dies off screen within the first 30 minutes only for the actors to shuffle about for another hour? lol I don't think this is even remotely acceptable but in XIV it's praised. By all means, make them soloable through trusts or whatever but at least stop dumbing them down to the point of caricature.

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Isnt FFXIV the game in which "i dont have time to play the game i have other games to play, a wife and kids and a job" is the norm as the excuse for getting no content ?

people reap what they sow, they asked for it, they got it, and obviously a majority is happy about it, which is pretty pathetic when you think about it

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

False.

They added a lot of small events, called micro events or something like that, that are actually brand new, dont last long, a day or a few days, but are pretty recurrent, the old ones though are pretty much the same yes, but they added a lot of new micro events.

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I've done the micro events. They offer nothing aside from a bit of lore with no game play to them. Just a bit of neat. I am talking the actual Season events like the Fire Festival, Brewfest, All Hallows, and Christmas. With a few exceptions of like the eating contest at the brewfest the events have been kill x boss for loot and do x minigame for currency that have not changed since they launched.

Hell, the Horde side for Halloween is still in Brill which requires you to time travel to do it because actual brill is a ruin and has been since BfA.

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

I've done the micro events. They offer nothing aside from a bit of lore with no game play to them. Just a bit of neat. I am talking the actual Season events like the Fire Festival, Brewfest, All Hallows, and Christmas. With a few exceptions of like the eating contest at the brewfest the events have been kill x boss for loot and do x minigame for currency that have not changed since they launched.

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That's still more than what FFXIV does with the same recycled events with absolutely nothing new at all, not only that, but it's also sending you to old content in FFXIV that has been done a million times, at least WoW is better in that department

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Well, we did sort of eventually get a Doomtrain minion.... kinda.

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While I appreciate and love the Bantam Train and agree that it fills a similar spot a Doomtrain minion would occupy, I still feel it is more inspired by the Final Fantasy VI Phantom Train rather than the Final Fantay VIII Doomtrain/Glasya Labolas. I acknowledge my pickiness in this matter but still would love to see an actual Doomtrain-based minion.

ITT: People sunk costed into WoW trolling the FFXIV forums pissing on this event.

I'm doing praetorium so I can alt tab do other things during the cutscenes.
If you really wanted to, you could be doing pandaemonium for the event tomes, no one is making you do praetorium.
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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

Isnt FFXIV the game in which "i dont have time to play the game i have other games to play, a wife and kids and a job" is the norm as the excuse for getting no content ?

people reap what they sow, they asked for it, they got it, and obviously a majority is happy about it, which is pretty pathetic when you think about it

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Man, I bet you some of that majority aren't even happy about it. But you know, those same people will defend the game at all costs, so they'll just smile and bear it.

Did you just necro a year old thread and then hop to this one to make that remark?

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This event is up my alley. I was wishing tomes were a year round thing for cosmetics a few days ago, since the meaningfulness of ilvl isn't doing so hot personally.

Great googley moogley! I had convinced myself the even started tomorrow! Lemme at those tomestones!!!

Now everybody cam become Alisaie and Alphinaud's grandpa! :D

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Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie

ITT: People sunk costed into WoW trolling the FFXIV forums pissing on this event.

I'm doing praetorium so I can alt tab do other things during the cutscenes.
If you really wanted to, you could be doing pandaemonium for the event tomes, no one is making you do praetorium.
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Imagine flexing that you can do other things than playing the game, while playing the game

ok my guy, bit weird but you do you

At least it makes sense that you say ffxiv is worth the sub, but wow isnt, because you dont want to play the game, you just want to be tabbed out, WoW actually requites you to play the game

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

Man, I bet you some of that majority aren't even happy about it. But you know, those same people will defend the game at all costs, so they'll just smile and bear it.

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Pretty much, these people are ruining the game tbh, that's also the reason why this game is doomed, as long as these people are playing it wont ever change, and they wont ever leave in all honesty.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

Imagine flexing that you can do other things than playing the game, while playing the game

ok my guy, bit weird but you do you

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Thats why i feel people are happy with how the game is so they can do other things while not playing and occasionally play when they need to press something. I would rather have a game that actively has you think and play rather then being able to do stuff outside of the game while spamming praetorium during events like the moogle times and not have to pay attention. At that point square should just make praetorium a solo instance that just plays 20 minutes of cutscenes with no combat.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

Imagine flexing that you can do other things than playing the game, while playing the game

ok my guy, bit weird but you do you

At least it makes sense that you say ffxiv is worth the sub, but wow isnt, because you dont want to play the game, you just want to be tabbed out, WoW actually requites you to play the game



Pretty much, these people are ruining the game tbh, that's also the reason why this game is doomed, as long as these people are playing it wont ever change, and they wont ever leave in all honesty.

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Personally I just think outside of some dungeons and boss themes, Soken's songs are so boring that in my quest to find music or just "white noise" to keep me awake I lose all motivation to continue playing.

Edit: Nevermind, just realized that roulettes don't count for some reason

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Originally Posted by LioJen

Edit: Nevermind, just realized that roulettes don't count for some reason

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Wait what?

I haven't done anything this time yet, but they always use to.

It's unfathomable how lazy this is for a 10th anniversary event.

People will probably white knight it super hard anyway, given that the rising is an event quite literally explicitly designed to exploit peoples parasocial feelings towards the developers.

The mount doesn't even have a transform animation. It's lazier than most normal mounts; They just flip a flag that turns your character invisible after you do your stupid generic whistling animation to summon it. Yikes.

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Originally Posted by LioJen

Edit: Nevermind, just realized that roulettes don't count for some reason

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Roulettes count. I just did Euphrosyne via Alliance Raid roulette and got 14 moogle tomes.

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Originally Posted by LioJen

Edit: Nevermind, just realized that roulettes don't count for some reason

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You can get moogle tomes through roulettes but since the dungeons you get are somewhat random your not guaranteed to get a dungeon that gives them.

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

Thats why i feel people are happy with how the game is so they can do other things while not playing and occasionally play when they need to press something. I would rather have a game that actively has you think and play rather then being able to do stuff outside of the game while spamming praetorium during events like the moogle times and not have to pay attention. At that point square should just make praetorium a solo instance that just plays 20 minutes of cutscenes with no combat.

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You're responding to someone who wants to troll/put down others to feel better about themselves over the other game they've sunk costed into. Beating the proverbial bush.

I've been spamming dungeons the past 2 weeks non-stop for enjoyable forward progress with job progression. I don't mind praetorium specifically because I can take mental breaks between the action with alt tabbing and being super chill.

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Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie

You're responding to someone who wants to troll/put down others to feel better about themselves and the other game they've sunk costed into. Beating the proverbial bush.

I've been spamming dungeons the past 2 weeks non-stop for enjoyable forward progress with job progression. I don't mind praetorium specifically because I can take mental breaks between the action with alt tabbing and being super chill.

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Yeah you sure as hell need a mental break from those "very hard" dungeons lmao, also I play both games, FFXIV for the social/housing, and WoW for content, so there is no "sunk cost" or whatever you are implying, I enjoy both for different reasons.

hmmmm okay..

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

I don't know about ESO as I have never been to one of their seasonal events but uh.... the events in WoW have been almost the exact same for the last 19 years. That's... not exactly respectful of to the brains of the playerbase to make them farm the exact same bosses and activities for 19 years with a very rare occasional small addition.

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WoW and many others MMO, the same boring quest to farm because you need tokens. The first year you ride a goat is fun, the second year a lot less, the third year you hope there are not new reward so you don't need to do that quest anymore.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

Yeah you sure as hell need a mental break.

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what? needing mental or physical breaks have nothing to do with how difficult a task or thing is.

like not make fun of a reason someone decided they want/need something. lets be better than that.

I’m having a good time today with PvP as DRK. I got those Sage wings from trophy crystals and the cool DRK helms from wolf marks. MOBA mini game time baby.

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Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie

You're responding to someone who wants to troll/put down others to feel better about themselves over the other game they've sunk costed into. Beating the proverbial bush.

I've been spamming dungeons the past 2 weeks non-stop for enjoyable forward progress with job progression. I don't mind praetorium specifically because I can take mental breaks between the action with alt tabbing and being super chill.

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I don't really consider any dungeon to be so mentally draining that i need to spam praetorium which plays more like a visual novel to take a mental break or not actively play the game. If i felt mentally drained and didn't feel up to doing dungeons or anything at all i would play other games or not play anything at all. For me personally the only thing that drains me is savage raids and being in statics.

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

I don't really consider any dungeon to be so mentally draining that i need to spam praetorium which plays more like a visual novel to take a mental break or not actively play the game. If i felt mentally drained and didn't feel up to doing dungeons or anything at all i would play other games or not play anything at all. For me personally the only thing that drains me is savage raids and being in statics.

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Sastasha is a very mentally draining dungeon yknow lmao

I'm having fun with this event talking to people in each dungeon it's nice. I'm enjoying

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

Sastasha is a very mentally draining dungeon yknow lmao

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Im surprised with how easy every dungeon is and can be done in under 15 minutes that they stress people out and get anxiety and gets mentally draining for people. I understand if it was extremes savage or ultimates but dungeons can be won now by simply auto attacking and not using a single ability.