7.0 copium has got to stop

While yes the copium is there, I'm actually a bit curious what they have to give us at the FanFest. If next expansion doesn't do anything exciting, then people will bail. We finished a 5-expansion arc(ARR/HW/StB/ShB/EW) and while not every expansion was a banger like ShB and HW, it still delivered on what their story was. Now, post-6.0 story is a brand new one that they're writing and there are still questions left unanswered as to what the next expansion will be called or even what content we'll be seeing in 6.5/.55 leading up to the new expac.

To sum it up, we need more information about what Yoshida's team is doing - and if ya'll are going to say "But XVI has affected XIV!" that hasn't been the case. Sure, this patch has been crap and received very negatively by the community - but it's already run its course and they aren't going to reverse direction until next expansion. If anything, yelling here on the forums is akin to yelling in an echo chamber unless a lot of people hop on the bandwagon for it.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

is the EU getting new worlds or just new server hardware?

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They had plans for an additional Datacenter, as per their Regarding the Expansion of FFXIV's Operations lodestone post.

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In the first phase of the expansion, scheduled for July 2022, a total of four new Worlds will be added, two under each of the logical data centers presently housed in the European Data Center. In the second phase, one new logical data center will be established and eight new Worlds will be added under it, resulting in a three-logical-DC configuration of 8:8:8. The aforementioned semiconductor shortage requires we carry out this upgrade in two stages, and we ask for your understanding and patience as we continue making preparations.

What’s more, in anticipation of further expansion, we are working to secure floor space for a fourth logical data center. Preparations are also being made in the event the addition of this logical data center is needed earlier than anticipated.

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My guess is they just haven't remotely maintained as many player numbers as they were expecting, and probably misattributed the reason why there was a massive influx. With an additional, and entirely new data center under current numbers, we'll essentially just have unnecessary servers, given our current situation in EU with us always skirting on 3-4 servers on preferred status.

You're using "copium" in the official forums, bro, your powerlevel is showing.
Back to the imageboard whence you crawled out of.

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Originally Posted by LinaAkayomi

You're using "copium" in the official forums, bro, your powerlevel is showing.
Back to the imageboard whence you crawled out of.

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technically, the OP is using "doomium".

saw that term here the other day and seems very appropriate for the poster and their alts (not to mention a bunch of their like minded boosters)

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

technically, the OP is using "doomium".

saw that term here the other day and seems very appropriate for the poster and their alts (not to mention a bunch of their like minded boosters)

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It is also weird that a RMT guy wants to infect the game with Doom and gloom...especially because this very game is what makes them Money......
Never made sense to keep paying to play a game just to constantly hate on it in the 1st place. Logic around here has always been lacking though....

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

Wait, so it's okay to tell people to quit now?

I thought people would be labeled as white knights were they to do that.

I should do that more often.

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Consistency.....what is that?....

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

They had plans for an additional Datacenter, as per their Regarding the Expansion of FFXIV's Operations lodestone post.



My guess is they just haven't remotely maintained as many player numbers as they were expecting, and probably misattributed the reason why there was a massive influx. With an additional, and entirely new data center under current numbers, we'll essentially just have unnecessary servers, given our current situation in EU with us always skirting on 3-4 servers on preferred status.

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Considering how long it took to implement Dynamis and Materia, and with how EU was always lowest on priority list, I wouldn't doubt it's just being delayed until 7.0 launch too (or close to that).

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This forum is becoming worse than any MMO forum...and i said it based on WoW forum.

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Becoming? I think it's been the worst one I've ever seen for quite a while now lol.

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Originally Posted by Koros

Let me just spoil the ending for all of you: FF14 is going to start failing, slowly, Square Enix is going to put this on maintenance mode in like 8.0 or 9.0 or something, maybe they'll try to revitalize it but fail.

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Something I can worry about in 4 to 6 years I guess.

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Originally Posted by Koros

Seriously, I don't even know where people get the idea that 7.0 is going to fix or even partially fix the problems with this game, it's not just one or two people, it's like the majority of the playerbase.

If you don't like the game at all, unironically save yourself the money and quit now because at this point this game is irredeemable. There's literally no point in waiting for 7.0 to fix anything. Spoiler: they won't. Only reason to stick to this game is for secondary, non-game purposes.

Let me just spoil the ending for all of you: FF14 is going to start failing, slowly, Square Enix is going to put this on maintenance mode in like 8.0 or 9.0 or something, maybe they'll try to revitalize it but fail.

CBU3 has like literally no idea how to make interesting progression systems, there is not a single exploratory content or horizontal content that succeeded with the entire playerbase. They just don't know how. They also fired some devs and leads who disagreed with the vision of the game (rumor), clearly they're not open to feedback either. So don't huff the copium really, no need to wait for 7.0. It's already over.

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7.0 Is supposed to have major updates for the game that completely overhaul everything. I.e. the graphical update. Its not unreasonable to assume that things won't be fixed up in other ways. Such as the character creator.

Considering how barren the EW post patches have been for most part and how safe they have played with changes, there's 2 options. Either they have poured a lot of their dev resources to 7.0 and it shows or they have mismanaged it and ignored player feedback to the point it will be a weird flop.

Then again, if it fizzles out, maybe they will close the shop and finally make a new MMO instead.

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7.0 Is supposed to have major updates for the game that completely overhaul everything. I.e. the graphical update. Its not unreasonable to assume that things won't be fixed up in other ways. Such as the character creator.

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We don't know much about it. Are they switching to DX12 to gain performance and headroom for higher fidelity? Are they providing a native Mac OS version? Will they leverage DirectStorage to remove/limit loading screens? Will they redo the launcher (and website) so it's actually easy to buy and pay for the game? That's a lot of backend work that takes time and probably was well underway when they first announced it. They can just update a few city and character assets and call it a day.

We should get the first 7.0 news soonish so the hype train or reality check will start then...

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Seriously, I don't even know where people get the idea that 7.0 is going to fix or even partially fix the problems with this game, it's not just one or two people, it's like the majority of the playerbase.

If you don't like the game at all, unironically save yourself the money and quit now because at this point this game is irredeemable. There's literally no point in waiting for 7.0 to fix anything. Spoiler: they won't. Only reason to stick to this game is for secondary, non-game purposes.

Let me just spoil the ending for all of you: FF14 is going to start failing, slowly, Square Enix is going to put this on maintenance mode in like 8.0 or 9.0 or something, maybe they'll try to revitalize it but fail.

CBU3 has like literally no idea how to make interesting progression systems, there is not a single exploratory content or horizontal content that succeeded with the entire playerbase. They just don't know how. They also fired some devs and leads who disagreed with the vision of the game (rumor), clearly they're not open to feedback either. So don't huff the copium really, no need to wait for 7.0. It's already over.

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I don't know where you get the idea that the game is in such terrible state. The game is doing quite well. Hell you are still subbing. Keep complaining though if you it makes you happy. I don't mind. It keeps my favorite game going!

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Originally Posted by Theodric

That's a common misconception. I thought the same and initially brushed it off, but despite having a lot of focus on PvP they're not neglecting the other aspects of the game which is typically where a lot of PvP focused MMO's have stumbled. A lot of the systems are built in such a way as to feed into one another as well.

It's hard to say which the next MMO to capture lightning in a bottle will be but at some point one will. It's just a matter of when.

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Not really a fan of PvP-only worlds. What I've seen of the FAQ isn't encouraging: "In any case, all this comes to a head via death penalties. A Non-Combatant who dies suffers normal penalties, which includes experience debt, durability loss, as well as dropping a portion of carried raw materials (which can then be looted)."

PvP games are, well, PvP games first-and-foremost. The fact there's PvE (and it's not a major selling point for the game) seems like an afterthought. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time and dying to combat I'm not actively seeking just seems like a waste of my time.

PvP players out there ... have fun!

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

7.0 Is supposed to have major updates for the game that completely overhaul everything. I.e. the graphical update. Its not unreasonable to assume that things won't be fixed up in other ways. Such as the character creator.

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The biggest problems currently are in regards to how content and jobs are designed. Graphic updates and the like, while nice, will not help fix content related problems. If anything, they will make the problems worse, since developer time is being spent on graphics stuff instead.

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Originally Posted by Koros

Only reason to stick to this game is for secondary, non-game purposes.

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I just can't get this mindset to make any sense, why waste money with a product you clearly dislike? Making infamous posts on a forum that looks like a relic from the y2k really brings that much joy that would justify keeping a sub (or multiple subs, for your alt characters)?

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I just can't get this mindset to make any sense, why waste money with a product you clearly dislike? Making infamous posts on a forum that looks like a relic from the y2k really brings that much joy that would justify keeping a sub (or multiple subs, for your alt characters)?

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since he has said several times he does not pay for his sub, I suspect the "non game purposes" is related to RMT. so really, its a job for him. which makes his posts REALLY illogical

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I just can't get this mindset to make any sense, why waste money with a product you clearly dislike? Making infamous posts on a forum that looks like a relic from the y2k really brings that much joy that would justify keeping a sub (or multiple subs, for your alt characters)?

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Because it is titanmen, he has dozens and dozens of accounts and most likely finances it through RMT while using all his bot accounts also to make fake claims and posts on the forums. That's literally his whole existence and the only thing that is more sad than that is people just eating his bad bait.

Well, time to hit that google chrome tool to actually hide the person's existence. At least he makes easy to track by having those alts with the very same appearance.

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Well, time to hit that google chrome tool to actually hide the person's existence. At least he makes easy to track by having those alts with the very same appearance.

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They also almost always have all crafters and gatherers up at 90 and only one combat job at 90. Cause they are basically rmt bots/alts.

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I do kind of have to agree. Or at least I am, and have been, very apathetic about the game and it's future for awhile. I do believe people should keep putting out suggestions, or trying to see change for the better, but I don't actually expect SE to listen or act on any of it. The game is kind of just in it's cycle.

I doubt I will 'quit' the game with 7.0, but I have been keeping my sub less, and even gave up my small - not like it mattered, since I can get another, bigger, one. I should say, I have always played the game very sporadically, and honestly, I actively play it about the same as I always have, but I am just not as enthusiastic about it as I was. SE definitely has the capacity to surprise me, but I really don't see that happening too much. It's nice for the people who are still hoping for the best.

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This is more or less how I feel about it. I don't really harbor any sort of intense feelings for the game, nor have I for the past Idk... 5 years? I picture my general disposition towards the game on a timeline that consists of a vague apathy at baseline that is broken by the great highs of an expansion launch. I still continue to play the game because I still enjoy it to some degree, and this pattern hasn't changed at all. The content that is delivered is something I consider to be "just enough" to enjoy, but the needle does not move beyond that. With each major content release I can expect a decent-to-good storyline with some easy-yet-enjoyable content alongside it. I honestly find the level of consistency to be commendable, but I'd be lying if I said I was 100% ok with it. This feeling of "yeah it's ok, I guess" becomes more palpable over time, and while I would like something more (whatever "more" entails is much too nebulous for me to go into at this point), I just don't see it happening. I think the devs are simply all-too-entrenched in their own design pattern at this point.

Ultimately, this won't stop me from playing the game. I've come to see it as that game, the "background game", a game I can always turn to if I'm just not feeling like playing anything else. I've been playing since beta 2.0 and at this time I am far too invested into the world, characters, story, etc... to simply just drop it. Sunk cost doesn't cross my mind. I'm talking momentum. I've been playing, and will continue to do so, but as I said at the start, with a certain hint of apathy. No gnashing of teeth, or stomping my feet, just kind of a shrug.

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This is more or less how I feel about it. I don't really harbor any sort of intense feelings for the game, nor have I for the past Idk... 5 years? I picture my general disposition towards the game on a timeline that consists of a vague apathy at baseline that is broken by the great highs of an expansion launch. I still continue to play the game because I still enjoy it to some degree, and this pattern hasn't changed at all. The content that is delivered is something I consider to be "just enough" to enjoy, but the needle does not move beyond that. With each major content release I can expect a decent-to-good storyline with some easy-yet-enjoyable content alongside it. I honestly find the level of consistency to be commendable, but I'd be lying if I said I was 100% ok with it. This feeling of "yeah it's ok, I guess" becomes more palpable over time, and while I would like something more (whatever "more" entails is much too nebulous for me to go into at this point), I just don't see it happening. I think the devs are simply all-too-entrenched in their own design pattern at this point.

Ultimately, this won't stop me from playing the game. I've come to see it as that game, the "background game", a game I can always turn to if I'm just not feeling like playing anything else. I've been playing since beta 2.0 and at this time I am far too invested into the world, characters, story, etc... to simply just drop it. Sunk cost doesn't cross my mind. I'm talking momentum. I've been playing, and will continue to do so, but as I said at the start, with a certain hint of apathy. No gnashing of teeth, or stomping my feet, just kind of a shrug.

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That's basically FF16 too it's a Cbu3 thing

In ten years people will be like "FF16? Oh that's an ok game it existed I guess"

I'm honestly just worried about the story. Like for the first time this patch, I found the fetch quests to be too much and I wanted to skip them.

First time since I started playing years ago. Story is what this game has going for it IMO, this last patch was so lackluster I haven't even gotten to the trial yet. It felt like a slog to get through.

This is the first time I've felt like my time to ultimately retire might be coming but I have faith and will give them the benefit of the doubt. We've got fanfests coming, so we'll hopefully get more info on 7.0 and the future!

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This is more or less how I feel about it. I don't really harbor any sort of intense feelings for the game, nor have I for the past Idk... 5 years? I picture my general disposition towards the game on a timeline that consists of a vague apathy at baseline that is broken by the great highs of an expansion launch. I still continue to play the game because I still enjoy it to some degree, and this pattern hasn't changed at all. The content that is delivered is something I consider to be "just enough" to enjoy, but the needle does not move beyond that. With each major content release I can expect a decent-to-good storyline with some easy-yet-enjoyable content alongside it. I honestly find the level of consistency to be commendable, but I'd be lying if I said I was 100% ok with it. This feeling of "yeah it's ok, I guess" becomes more palpable over time, and while I would like something more (whatever "more" entails is much too nebulous for me to go into at this point), I just don't see it happening. I think the devs are simply all-too-entrenched in their own design pattern at this point.

Ultimately, this won't stop me from playing the game. I've come to see it as that game, the "background game", a game I can always turn to if I'm just not feeling like playing anything else. I've been playing since beta 2.0 and at this time I am far too invested into the world, characters, story, etc... to simply just drop it. Sunk cost doesn't cross my mind. I'm talking momentum. I've been playing, and will continue to do so, but as I said at the start, with a certain hint of apathy. No gnashing of teeth, or stomping my feet, just kind of a shrug.

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Wow, what an incredibly articulation of how I feel. I was trying to express this but definitely not as well. Completely agreed.

Has the game changed? Yes
Is this bad? No
Should everyone just flat out quit? No, but folks should really evaluate whether this game is still for you after these changes the likelihood of them reverting any of it is slim to none. And desipte the massive changes that has certainly pushed folks away from the game this is still a great MMO, especially for those that do not have the time to dump 1/2 a day into gaming or those that like putting time into multiple games...

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I'm honestly just worried about the story. Like for the first time this patch, I found the fetch quests to be too much and I wanted to skip them.

First time since I started playing years ago. Story is what this game has going for it IMO, this last patch was so lackluster I haven't even gotten to the trial yet. It felt like a slog to get through.

This is the first time I've felt like my time to ultimately retire might be coming but I have faith and will give them the benefit of the doubt. We've got fanfests coming, so we'll hopefully get more info on 7.0 and the future!

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This is also my biggest concern. I can tolerate a lot of flaws if the story is good but it just hasn't been. Endwalker MSQ had a lot of issues and ended up being a huge letdown for me. The patch quests have been lacking lately as well. I hope it's because they are putting all the effort into 7.0, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Originally Posted by Koros

That's basically FF16 too it's a Cbu3 thing

In ten years people will be like "FF16? Oh that's an ok game it existed I guess"

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Ten years is pretty good. Some folks completely forget about certain games after just two or three months when the mainstream is done with it.

This is a fair point because if they were to "fix" anything, we would see small increments of it throughout Endwalker in changing philosophy. If anything, they have double downed on their philosophies throughout the patch. If you hate the 2 minute meta and overall simplification of jobs, it is only going to be worse in 7.0. Do you dislike having no repeatable content and content with lackluster rewards? It will only get worse next expac.

However, MMO users usually have lots of hours of investment into the game and their character(s), so its only fair to at least hold on with hopium/copium that maybe something will change course, or they'll atleast refine their strategy to be more enjoyable. We are near the end of the expac, might as well wait lol.

I played wow and quit in WoD and here i am... I just feel like this expansion is the WoD of this game for me, i really hope i'm wrong but yeah...

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I played wow and quit in WoD and here i am... I just feel like this expansion is the WoD of this game for me, i really hope i'm wrong but yeah...

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Actually considering the favoritism of the previous expansion, I feel like we're in the Battle for Azeroth phase with Shb being Legion. That means 7.0 will the worst yet with Shadowlands and the game will finally start getting good again with 8.0 Dragonflight

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Actually considering the favoritism of the previous expansion, I feel like we're in the Battle for Azeroth phase with Shb being Legion. That means 7.0 will the worst yet with Shadowlands and the game will finally start getting good again with 8.0 Dragonflight

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That's your personal subjective opinion tho, you have every right to be not satisfied with the product you have access too. Heck i can't understand some of the design choices either and how they basically gave people no grind this expansion for whatever reason, something that always helped a lot with in between patch activity.

But if we look at the numbers, like the raw numbers. XIV is doing better on patchdays now than to release (RELEASE!) of previous expansions. We have now on patchdays more daily players than we had when ShB came out. The games state and activity is a highly subjective matter for most people obviously but that doesn't mean the game is doing bad. Just means you are getting older and the good times from back then hang in your mind and build a nostalgic memory that is far from what once was actually. Nobody really remembers how far the game has come and how much better we have it now compared to the "old days".

The problem i feel is that we old players know already what is to come basically, we know that our jobs will play in the future mostly the same. The games mechanics will stay the same. The fight mechanics might change but the overall design stays the same. It's something WoW did differently and had partially success with it before they overused the borrowed power system so much that it became a nuisance and chore to players. But XIV could learn from WoW mistakes, lost actions from Bozja and Eureka were a dip into this concept and many players had actually really fun with the really stupid and overpowered things you could do with it. So it kinda leaves me baffled that this time around in EW they didn't include it into the relic grind.

You know what else I miss? They used to break the patch pattern a bit at the end of each expansion X.5X.

Late ARR added the Gold Saucer and the Odin fight that drops his glam.

Late HW had the most experimental stuff. There's the weekly goblin quest which gives unique accessories of an item level equal to that expansion's savage and augmented tomes.
Also the v2 remake of diadem which had a raid in the middle, dropped ultra rare weapons which were 5 item level higher than savage... causing the parser people to complain that RNG loot prevented them recording the best scores on their 3rd party parser log site. They were called Coven weapons, IL 280.

Late StB had Baldesion Arsenal and the fake Yojimbo trial fight, also a bit earlier was the Monster Hunter crossover trial which has some mechanics not usually seen in ffxiv.

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You know what else I miss? They used to break the patch pattern a bit at the end of each expansion X.5X.

Late ARR added the Gold Saucer and the Odin fight that drops his glam.

Late HW had the most experimental stuff. There's the weekly goblin quest which gives unique accessories of an item level equal to that expansion's savage and augmented tomes.
Also the v2 remake of diadem which had a raid in the middle, dropped ultra rare weapons which were 5 item level higher than savage... causing the parser people to complain that RNG loot prevented them recording the best scores on their 3rd party parser log site. They were called Coven weapons, IL 280.

Late StB had Baldesion Arsenal and the fake Yojimbo trial fight, also a bit earlier was the Monster Hunter crossover trial which has some mechanics not usually seen in ffxiv.

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What i kinda miss from the days back then was the second dungeon we would get with every patch. Still sad that they cut that out in ShB. It's kinda sad to see the same dungeon over and over in Expert for months and months without end.

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Seriously, I don't even know where people get the idea that 7.0 is going to fix or even partially fix the problems with this game, it's not just one or two people, it's like the majority of the playerbase.

If you don't like the game at all, unironically save yourself the money and quit now because at this point this game is irredeemable. There's literally no point in waiting for 7.0 to fix anything. Spoiler: they won't. Only reason to stick to this game is for secondary, non-game purposes.

Let me just spoil the ending for all of you: FF14 is going to start failing, slowly, Square Enix is going to put this on maintenance mode in like 8.0 or 9.0 or something, maybe they'll try to revitalize it but fail.

CBU3 has like literally no idea how to make interesting progression systems, there is not a single exploratory content or horizontal content that succeeded with the entire playerbase. They just don't know how. They also fired some devs and leads who disagreed with the vision of the game (rumor), clearly they're not open to feedback either. So don't huff the copium really, no need to wait for 7.0. It's already over.

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This is a great example of an unhelpful post. It doesn't convey one bit of useful information to CBU3 or Square Enix.

If you are unhappy about something, you have to be specific. Tell them exactly what you dislike and why you dislike it. Otherwise, it's just noise.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Actually considering the favoritism of the previous expansion, I feel like we're in the Battle for Azeroth phase with Shb being Legion. That means 7.0 will the worst yet with Shadowlands and the game will finally start getting good again with 8.0 Dragonflight

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Or, hear me out here, ShB was XIV's WotLK expansion and we're now in the Cata equivalent and 7.0 will be like MoP. WotLK and ShB are almost 1:1 comparisons in my mind for the changes they made to their respective games, as well as being highly regarded for narrative. Cata and EW both came after with narratives that were relatively unpopular and the gameplay changes that the previous expansion had implemented were starting to age poorly. 7.0 hasn't been announced yet, but if we end up going somewhere that comes completely out of left field and seems like a joke... Well, we'll find out soonTM.

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Or, hear me out here, ShB was XIV's WotLK expansion and we're now in the Cata equivalent and 7.0 will be like MoP. WotLK and ShB are almost 1:1 comparisons in my mind for the changes they made to their respective games, as well as being highly regarded for narrative. Cata and EW both came after with narratives that were relatively unpopular and the gameplay changes that the previous expansion had implemented were starting to age poorly. 7.0 hasn't been announced yet, but if we end up going somewhere that comes completely out of left field and seems like a joke... Well, we'll find out soonTM.

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It would honestly be pretty funny if FFXIV did directly follow in the footsteps of Blizzard's WoW.
So....next expansion would be fun, but have a Horrific Narritive that blatantly steals from somebody else (Perhaps the Dragons return ala Dragonflight) and Fordola or Kryile are our Silvanas and Golbez is the Jailer.
Then 8.0 is XIVs Dragonflight where they mostly fix the issues, but the playerbase is smaller.

It would be an interesting 4-5 years Haha

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The forum community is growing well. Titanman alts keep growing and growing and growing.

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Titanverse

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This is a great example of an unhelpful post. It doesn't convey one bit of useful information to CBU3 or Square Enix.

If you are unhappy about something, you have to be specific. Tell them exactly what you dislike and why you dislike it. Otherwise, it's just noise.

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There's quite no point in explaining what people are unhappy about since we all know feedback is discarded and ignored.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

There\\'s quite no point in explaining what people are unhappy about since we all know feedback is discarded and ignored.

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Thank you for silencing threads of constructive criticisms by drowning them to oblivion.

We white knights appreciate your effort and please do continue to play our Trojan Horse with due diligence.

https://i.imgur.com/BccsJn7.jpg

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There's quite no point in explaining what people are unhappy about since we all know feedback is discarded and ignored.

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People are gonna shit on this response, but to be fair when was the last time any staff member even implied they were looking at this place outside of the one mod in the tech support forum who mostly helps with troubleshooting and moving threads around? Nothing against him, but I'm talking about a reply from like... a developer or something. For example, there's this super old thread asking for unlocked hempen sets across races, and in that thread an actual staff account replied saying they'd look into it. That is the most recent thread I can immediately think of where I saw a reply from someone who might actually work on the game. It was made back in like 2015. And as we all know, the hempen sets are still race-locked.

Like, if we had any developer come in and even say "sup" in a thread, we'd at least know that someone at CBU3 was reading our feedback and I think that would go a mile for the morale around here. As it stands, this place feels more like a venty echo chamber where people just scream into the wind, feeling with 99.9% certainty that nobody's listening and nobody cares.

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Titanverse

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I would be very interested in a Titanmen Cinematic Universe.