Stop waiting for cutscenes in alliance raids. We never did this in Stormblood.

Not once since started playing did ever hold ones up because of a cutscene. If you want to watch them you should say at the start. Some have the option to skip seen cutscenes not turned on, just to make ones wait for them to end. I have seen that a few times in duties.

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Originally Posted by hunkygladiator

Why do we allow one single person watching cutscenes to hold up the time of all 23 other people? We never used to do this in Stormblood, because guess what, you can watch the cutscene in the inn later by yourself.

Why is this now a thing? When did we suddenly get this influx of carebears?

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We totally waited for people in HW, SB, ShB, and we have waited in EW too.

It's a shame Trolls can't be stopped from creating pointless threads.

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Originally Posted by hunkygladiator

Why do we allow one single person watching cutscenes to hold up the time of all 23 other people? We never used to do this in Stormblood, because guess what, you can watch the cutscene in the inn later by yourself.

Why is this now a thing? When did we suddenly get this influx of carebears?

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Not queueing is a solution.

Just pull your weight if its about your precious " Time ". Use Pots and Tinctures and stop sucking at dealing DPS with whatever Job you're taking into said raids if those 20 seconds matters that much to you...

https://i.ibb.co/XyKk8Mr/POTS.png

Unless that's to " Carebear " for you to handle when that's said to you... cause by the looks of it? You clearly don't pull your weight... thus sit down, shush " and let players watch and enjoy their first time experience "

9 out of 10 times we wait for people to finish watching the cutscene. It takes few seconds. This is only true for the most recent alliance raid. For older raids, we wait for the majority of players to arrive at final boss and pull.

Sorry, hoss, you're wrong. We've always done this and will continue to do it. Go ahead and pull. The rest of us are busy trying to sync our favorite dances while we wait for the sprout. We'll peel you off the floor when we're done.

I always waited for cutscenes. It was always common for people to try, because you would see the Ready Checks, but then the Ready Checks never got answered by half the alliance so they weren't useful.

But fortunately you don't need a Ready Check. You can look at the party and alliance lists and if any of the players have a dark shade over them then they are not here yet. When they are here, their cutscene is over.

despite everything.
I wish to thank the people who didn't wait.
It's because of you that we get unskippable cutscenes in MSQ roulette.
Keep doing what you're doing and nothing will be skippable anymore.
Sincerely, thank you.

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Originally Posted by hunkygladiator

Why do we allow one single person watching cutscenes to hold up the time of all 23 other people? We never used to do this in Stormblood, because guess what, you can watch the cutscene in the inn later by yourself.

Why is this now a thing? When did we suddenly get this influx of carebears?

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Do you want mandatory, non-skippable cutscenes? Because this is how you get non-shippable cutscenes (See Prae/Castrum).

Whether you like it or not, this is way out of line with the devs design method/planning/goals, which is to create a welcoming place for new players. IE, the devs will 100% work to make sure 1 new player doesn’t feel rushed/left out/left behind even at the expense of a few minutes for veteran players.

Why be mad about the 20 seconds you lose waiting, OP? Could think up a new bait thread idea and maybe even type it out in that time.

lol imagine getting mad at polite people lmao

I'll begin to wonder about the longevity of the game when people stop posting threads like these.
For now, they warm my heart.

OH, uh, I mean... SE wouldn't put cutscenes in the dungeons if we were meant to watch them later!!
So there!

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

Not queueing is a solution.

Just pull your weight if its about your precious " Time ". Use Pots and Tinctures and stop sucking at dealing DPS with whatever Job you're taking into said raids if those 20 seconds matters that much to you...

https://i.ibb.co/XyKk8Mr/POTS.png

Unless that's to " Carebear " for you to handle when that's said to you... cause by the looks of it? You clearly don't pull your weight... thus sit down, shush " and let players watch and enjoy their first time experience "

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Somebody had to say it.

MMO’s probably ain’t for you dawg.

This thread reminds me back when I started playing the game and in Tam-Tara Deepcroft at last boss, I was watching the cutscene but the other 3 people killed the boss already, and I was confused for days until I got Tam-Tara to fight it again lol

I always skipping cutscenes in dungeons, I dont want other people to see my name as the reason why they are waiting for someone.

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Originally Posted by Remolia

I always skipping cutscenes in dungeons, I dont want other people to see my name as the reason why they are waiting for someone.

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Watch them,most people don't mind waiting the dungeon alliance cutscenes are really not that long that you should the need to skip them. Most people will just emote or chill for a second.

"Taking Players Hostage."

I like the Cutscenes and at my time as a sprout every single group i was part of, waited for me... so i return the favor.

Its not really that big of a deal.. you dont get a trohpy if you clear the dungeon or raid 15sec earlyer then the group that did watch the cutscene.

I hate that my lifetime favorite passion of gaming has turned into a race and speed run at every turn, in every game, always. We really gonna complains about seconds and even minutes? Are you really that important? Sit down. If I see "watching cutscene", I don't touch my keyboard if Yoshi P himself told me to. This games stories and community impacted my life and I will not let some zoomer with most of their keys bound to "walk forward" ruin an experience that I treasured for anyone ese, if I can help it.

Tam-Tara before the revamp had a rep for the final boss starting before the sprout finishes watching cutscene cos not only is the cutscene long, but if you stood too close on the ledge inside the boss arena, you got sucked in and the fight starts. My first time I got out of the cutscene right before the boss was killed.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

If people want to wait...I'll wait. If the group pulls...I'll make sure they don't die.

I'm a patient person and waiting a few minutes isn't going to bother me any. If the group doesn't want to wait that's fine too.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

Just pull without me. I don't mind, lmao.

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I agree with these people.

Maaaan even if OP's just dicking us around, you've gotta admit there are times when it's taken too far. The other day I was in a puppets bunker where some guy who wasn't even on the same map section as the rest of the party (at the final boss) wasn't readying up because he was clearly just AFK and our whole group (23) sat there waiting for this guy who wasn't even at his PC. Finally I just pulled as a NIN and sure enough the fucking mEnTor in the group got angry on behalf of a guy who wasn't even at his PC. Like, sorry guy, we've all got shit to do. Your AFK buttbuddy can just join the fight when he gets back. This isn't the end of the world. There wasn't even a first-timer prompt at the start of the raid, so it's not like it was anyone's first time. Some people are just looking for an excuse to get mad and they're desperate for a situation where their anger is warranted, but this ain't it chief.

Then, by all means, do the pulling yourself, or if other people mind then they will do the pulling themselves.

If you have the option to pull, then do so, people shouldn't be required to cheapen their own experience by skipping cutscenes and then later watching them in the inn once the duty has concluded and the anticipation dwindled. Similarly, you shouldn't be forced to wait, which is seldom the case. Bar, what? Entry into duty, and the MSQ roulette.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Maaaan even if OP's just dicking us around, you've gotta admit there are times when it's taken too far. The other day I was in a puppets bunker where some guy who wasn't even on the same map section as the rest of the party wasn't readying up because he was clearly just AFK and our whole group (23) sat there waiting for this guy who wasn't even at his PC. Finally I just pulled as a NIN and sure enough the fucking mEnTor in the group got angry on behalf of a guy who wasn't even at his PC. Like, sorry guy, we've all got shit to do. Your AFK buttbuddy can just join the fight when he gets back. This isn't the end of the world.

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That sounds less about the cutscene and more about someone AFKing hoping to get kicked so they wouldn't take a penalty for leaving the duty.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

That sounds less about the cutscene and more about someone AFKing hoping to get kicked so they wouldn't take a penalty for leaving the duty.

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Bit weird to wait until the final boss to do that. Which, in hindsight, I guess I didn't specify. Just figured it was assumed since we're talking about waiting for cutscenes, which are typically at the last boss. But I'll edit.

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Originally Posted by hunkygladiator

Yep. People use one person to hold 23 people hostage and call that "welcoming".

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I've never minded waiting - you know why? Because I was that person once; new to the game, enjoying playing the story and digesting the cutscenes, wondering what was coming next. And in hindsight, when it was me in those newbie shoes, I was certainly grateful that them team didn't just steamroller ahead without me.

Coming out of a cutscene to find a boss half-dead or, in some cases, already defeated because impatient players who've seen it all before, countless times, think what they want takes priority over a new player's MSQ experience doesn't give off a very good impression at all. Particularly not when you consider the game has a reputation for having a friendly in-game community.

I'm all for waiting for a cutscene if someone asks. Most of the time everyone has already done it, so it hardly ruins my day to have to add like an extra 30 seconds to a run once every 5-10 runs.

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Originally Posted by Stepjam

I'm all for waiting for a cutscene if someone asks. Most of the time everyone has already done it, so it hardly ruins my day to have to add like an extra 30 seconds to a run once every 5-10 runs.

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I love it when people say nothing and then get mad after the pull, on behalf of a sprout who's just quietly watching the cs while the raidchat devolves into anger and chaos, and then the sprout exits the cutscene and doesn't even care.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Not once since started playing did ever hold ones up because of a cutscene. If you want to watch them you should say at the start. Some have the option to skip seen cutscenes not turned on, just to make ones wait for them to end. I have seen that a few times in duties.

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If they didn't want to watch the cutscene they would...you know...press escape or B or Circle and click yes.

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Originally Posted by hagare

despite everything.
I wish to thank the people who didn't wait.
It's because of you that we get unskippable cutscenes in MSQ roulette.
Keep doing what you're doing and nothing will be skippable anymore.
Sincerely, thank you.

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It’s been how many years since they made msq roulette cs unskippable? Keep dreaming buddy. They are currently unskippable due to poor design choice. Those places could be completed by the time you were out of your 2nd cs.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

If they didn't want to watch the cutscene they would...you know...press escape or B or Circle and click yes.

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Except there are people who watch it every time.

When I was farming gwibbers, there was at least 1 person in 6 different groups I was in that would watch the opening CS every. Single. Time. Never once skipping it. In a FARM party.

There are people who don't have auto CS skip on to troll, go get food or a drink at the start, or just because they need to watch it for the 100th time.

People want to talk about rude/inconsiderate behaviour, but yet, don't bat an eye at this. I thought waiting was just for the "first time experience". Except it's not even new people at this point.

It happens every day in at least 3 roulettes. Waiting for CS but no new people.

I dont understand how if someone chooses to watch a cutscene for the 500th time, that the game allows them to do, and in fact makes them immune while doing it, thats any different than the first time? Sure, it might not seem reasonable or something that you or I would want to do but if someone wants to watch a cutscene again, so be it. Im reaching 2 years in this game and there are still some cut scenes I like to watch. The Nier raids come to mind, and anything involving a certain Ascian, to be honest.

Farming gwibs, you were probably in a pre-made or party finder group right? If it bothers you so much, make your own party and note that the group will not be watching cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

Farming gwibs, you were probably in a pre-made or party finder group right? If it bothers you so much, make your own party and note that the group will not be watching cutscenes.

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This is a tired, old argument that goes both ways. You want your cs untainted? Pre-made

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

I dont understand how if someone chooses to watch a cutscene for the 500th time, that the game allows them to do, and in fact makes them immune while doing it, thats any different than the first time? Sure, it might not seem reasonable or something that you or I would want to do but if someone wants to watch a cutscene again, so be it. Im reaching 2 years in this game and there are still some cut scenes I like to watch. The Nier raids come to mind, and anything involving a certain Ascian, to be honest.

Farming gwibs, you were probably in a pre-made or party finder group right? If it bothers you so much, make your own party and note that the group will not be watching cutscenes.

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So it's not being abused because the game hasn't put in limits and I have the option to make my own pf? Interesting.

But let's just ignore the disrespect in a farm party. Not a clear party, a farm party. There are certain expectations when in farm parties; know the fight and be efficient. The less time each run takes, the more runs you can do before people get burnt out. The more runs you do, higher chance of everyone getting their mount.

Do your part. You're there to help each other get the mount.

If you're watching the CS every single time we load in, you're selfish and inconsiderate. Make your own party.

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

Not queueing is a solution.

Just pull your weight if its about your precious " Time ". Use Pots and Tinctures and stop sucking at dealing DPS with whatever Job you're taking into said raids if those 20 seconds matters that much to you...

https://i.ibb.co/XyKk8Mr/POTS.png

Unless that's to " Carebear " for you to handle when that's said to you... cause by the looks of it? You clearly don't pull your weight... thus sit down, shush " and let players watch and enjoy their first time experience "

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I've had alliance duties that took longer due to poor DPS than ones where we had to wait for cutscenes.

Either way, I don't expect things to go my way when using duty roulette, so it's no skin off my bones.

You can just play WoW if you want to be in a rush all the time.

I use the cutscene time to mentally prepare myself.

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

You can just play WoW if you want to be in a rush all the time.

I use the cutscene time to mentally prepare myself.

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Prepare for what? Repeating mechanics you’ve seen many times that they may even be effected by muscle memory by this point?

If ppl want to watch their cs, no one is stopping them. Pulling does nothing. Not worth yet another cry thread over it

I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

All I know is you have until my Earthly Star explodes to pull.

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The 5 people who "upvoted" the OP were just Titanman's alts.

And THIS is why the bosses need to be locked as long as someone has the Cutscene running.

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

This is a tired, old argument that goes both ways. You want your cs untainted? Pre-made

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You do not realize the roulett is there so first timers get their duty in the first place lol. If not for them, you would need to run the highest duty till your eyes bleed.

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Originally Posted by hunkygladiator

--Why do we allow one single person watching cutscenes to hold up the time of all 23 other people?
--We never used to do this in Stormblood,
--you can watch the cutscene in the inn later by yourself.
--Why is this now a thing? When did we suddenly get this influx of carebears?

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----Because Ive been new before, and very much appreciated people being patient so I can enjoy my 1st experience of the game. So I in turn wait for them so they can have a good experience. Its part of why I still think FFXIV has a great community....ignoring most of the playerbase on this Forum.
Im in no rush, I dont have anywhere to be. If I did, I wouldn't be playing videogames in the 1st place.
----Yes we did. You're either trolling hardcore, or have bad memory
----This is true, and people said this with Prae back in the day. And I did it once....the experience isnt the same. The cutscenes are a million times better when you have your random party members with you, making everyone involved, adding a tiny bit of Immersion that me ad my party are here together. Watching it all back at the Inn where you are by yourself, it isnt the same.
----I ask the same question when the Front Page gets filled with a Dozen Complaints about Trivial things ((some I agree with)), by the same people.