I really wish I cared you dont believe me and my sexuality, but thank you for your inputQuote:
Originally Posted by PintyMcEars
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03-25-2023, 12:16 AMStormpeaks
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03-25-2023, 12:19 AMAword3213
I thought LGBTQA+ wants to be regard and accepted as normal people.
Normal people don't feel the need to be represented, so I guess this group of people only want special treatment. -
03-25-2023, 12:21 AMToutatisYet there are many “in your face” heterosexual couples in the games. LGBTQ+ people exist so why not. It should be a non issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Araxes
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03-25-2023, 12:24 AMStormpeaksActually it is an issue because its forced in the story and in the game for no reason at all but for the sake of having them so they can say "yeah look guys we're lgtbq friendly !" , that is where people should draw the lineQuote:
Originally Posted by Toutatis
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03-25-2023, 12:31 AMToutatisDoesn’t mean it’s forced. Maybe they really wanted such characters. There’s no reason to not have a few LGBTQ+ characters. Some people seem to want to hide them forever. Sheesh! I guess ancient greeks were forced to depict homosexuality in their art. Creators should be free to put or not LGBTQ content in their games and it should be a non issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormpeaks
Actually they are represented constantly. It looks more like some people want them to be represented exclusively. Also funny you call them “normal”. LGBTQ+ is part of life and their representation shouldn’t be controversial. That should be at the discretion of the creators of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aword3213
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03-25-2023, 12:33 AMStormpeaksSo they went from having barely any to multiple all of a sudden because they "wanted" it ? Big doubt there, especially considering where SE is from. Also pretty sure no one has anything agaisnt them being implemented, as long as its not put in people's faces, and also forced in. A la "MY HUSBAND LEFT ME IM A LONE MAN PLEASE GO AND GET HIM FOR ME I NEED MY HUSBAND" which is basically how its implemented right now in this game, it literally is pushed that they are lgbt instead of just leaving it alone, there is no need to go in detail and be like "yeah see guys they are lgtq !"Quote:
Originally Posted by Toutatis
Basically this tbh, its not genuine one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolaina
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03-25-2023, 12:38 AMKolainaThey’re just checking boxes for the western market. Enjoy your tokenismQuote:
Originally Posted by Toutatis
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03-25-2023, 12:47 AMToutatisMaybe they weren’t represented (or when there was representation, it was rather timid) because there was censorship and things are starting to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormpeaks
I do agree that in some cases it is tokenism like in some of those uninspired and uninspiring fetch quests ( still, after all, why not?) but not always. Anyway, that’s not what I am talking about. It’s about the creative process and there should be freedom in that regard. You can have well fleshed out characters and a good story where the writer really wanted such characters, not just for the sake of having an LGBTQ+ character but because that’s how they imagined it. Depicting LGBTQ+ characters should not be controversial. -
03-25-2023, 01:07 AMAword3213Sure, but not at the cost for the sake of it. Too bad it's almost always poorly executed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toutatis
Did you just assume the gender and sexuality of characters on screen? I find it offensive. Maybe that sweet housewife identify as male and "he" happens to be homosexual.Quote:
Actually they are represented constantly.
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03-25-2023, 01:23 AMDamianFataleI’m LGBT, and I don’t like twitter. Can you not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thelasoriao
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03-25-2023, 01:47 AMThemarvin
Quite a few games featured that FF in general included... another worthy mention could for an instance be Biowares Dragon Age Origins... and more.
Definetely would support it and moves and more to it for FFXIV... also stuff like this already do exist in FFXIV as well.
Edit:
And oh yes am probably bi-curious too whenever it get to it, who cares really whenever it get to it?
And any one that puts *blocked* in or whatever or for whatever given silly or stupid reason to stay in their safespace, is actually leaving their safespace not confronting whatever is going on and in the end, just learn to stop bother what others is into or not and accept everyone as the individuals that they are.
It is quite simple, and uhm... mobs going after people for their ways of being? We should be past that in this as well as previous century if we ever are going to evolve into the next step, however those people probably got problems understanding Darwinism to begin with as belonging to a crowd who refuse to learn from the past... and or give into science at all, question is then why are they on their phone/laptop/pc/mac or whatever if they are against those things... the father of the computer was LGBT as well. -
03-25-2023, 01:52 AMHurlstone*Looks at the sea of Nazis, TERFS and other bigots on Twitter*Quote:
Originally Posted by Thelasoriao
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03-25-2023, 02:06 AMHurlstoneThat is an interesting case. I liked what they did with the storyline, nothing concrete is said but when you have the two characters bond and have a great big rainbow rock as the centrepiece, it tells a tale I think even if many will say its all platonic. Honestly though I am not normally a fan of ‘queer coding’ mostly because its something I feel should be left in the past nowadays. 80’s X-Men comics? Sure, I can understand and appreciate the coding the writers added to such characters and themes. Nowadays I just feel it can be used too much of an excuse to earn brownie points saying ‘Oh look we have subtext!’ whilst not trying to offend anyone against such things, leaving such content feeling rather hollow. There are of course a lot of exceptions, and I am more forgiving for franchises like FF doing that due to where they where created. Its not always a bad thing if done well, but at times it can stiffen storytelling too. An example would be how The Last of Us TV series treats the character of Bill in regards to the game. The series is ALOT more open about his sexuality in the series then game, and it is 100% better for it. It lets the character be explored in a much deeper way, and ultimately fits with the theme of the show and the main characters journey much more then in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora
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03-25-2023, 02:22 AMZanarkand-RonsoWhat even is an LGBT+"Character" anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMenII
Is it just someone who is gay or BiSexual? Ok...whats the big deal, This isnt a new progressive thing.
Or does the "Characters" whole Identity and Personality and background factor around it, so the only thing to them is their Sexual Orientation?
Sounds pretty freaking Boring, and I dont want that anywhere.
How about a good and cool character who HAPPENS to be Gay or Bi. But their entire existence isnt just to tell us what they wanna Date?
Or is it a weird haircut Dyed a Bright Color? Or a bunch of Piercings?
There is no shortage of characters like that anywhere you go, much less Player Characters and OCs. Its not new, its not special, its not Progressive, and it doesn't automatically mean they are LGBT+
If you/anybody thinks this makes a LGBT+ character, or is any amount of representation for the community.
Then you are truly in Clown World. -
03-25-2023, 02:29 AMKyrj
Have we become so starved for trolls that we lower ourselves to such low-quality bait?
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03-25-2023, 02:37 AMAntharaes
I really don't understand why these topics keep popping up. You have lalafells, miqo't, roegadyn, elezen oh and ofc hyur...and now you want them to be bi or gay.....It's a ffing fantasy game, use your goddamn imagination...https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...BAM8/giphy.gif
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03-25-2023, 02:45 AMNyxs
No they arent needed.
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03-25-2023, 02:57 AMSassyAssassinIf Im a woman and decide to identify as a man tomorrow, without attaching a ding dong down there, everything stays as it is, but I am interested in men and not women, am I gay or am I straight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aword3213
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03-25-2023, 03:19 AMKolainaIm sure they could even add a letter for you in their acronymQuote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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03-25-2023, 03:23 AMSassyAssassinWe are running out of alphabetQuote:
Originally Posted by Kolaina
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03-25-2023, 03:23 AM4clubbedace
"what about ffxiv rep?" they will never canonize relaitonships of main NPCS that dont involve the character due to any and all backlash , i rmr people losing their godamn mind when runar confessed to shtola.
anyways the real rep is you, the player -
03-25-2023, 03:26 AMKolainaLetters, numbers, could even add squiggles and emojis. It’s an opportunity to extend this sillinessQuote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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03-25-2023, 03:50 AMQiyoJoyo
Are you guys really ignore hrauchefant? A elezen with such a flamboiant charm that drools over half naked men? He is pretty muche PEAK representation. Why? He was a hero, i loved him and i will cry every time again when i think about how his story ended.
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03-25-2023, 03:53 AMSlouchyBardI have arrived with new letters, behold: Ǝ, ʎ, ꟼ,Quote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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03-25-2023, 03:55 AMroniboschThey castrated him in the English version, though. );Quote:
Originally Posted by QiyoJoyo
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03-25-2023, 03:56 AMQiyoJoyo
Yes but even there i clearly got the "He will call me daddy atleast one time in this questline"-Vibe.
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03-25-2023, 03:58 AMArriusFor the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronibosch
Rather have BFF-Garrus style Haurchefant than the JP creep version. -
03-25-2023, 04:05 AMroniboschAh, Garrus. My first gaming love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arrius
I'm cool with "wholesome bro" Haurchefaunt, but I know a lot of people were upset that his personality was changed.
I've always wondered how I would've felt about his death if he was like his JP counterpart. -
03-25-2023, 04:16 AMQiyoJoyo
I cried because he died.
The only pet-marionett that i like is his.
He will be forever my husbando, and my wife is okey with that. -
03-25-2023, 04:24 AMSassyAssassinSlouchyyyy you are food now <3333Quote:
Originally Posted by SlouchyBard
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03-25-2023, 04:25 AMTheMightyMolluskWait, it's a trap! Rabbits can't digest potato!Quote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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03-25-2023, 04:48 AMSlouchyBardHaha. Never! This is just an alt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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03-25-2023, 04:50 AMKaurhz
Did your naming creativity really expire already to where you felt the need to use suffixes?
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03-25-2023, 05:17 AMShialanThere is no need to tolerate intolerant people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thelasoriao
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03-25-2023, 05:18 AMroniboschLalafell stew is worth the stomach pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk
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03-25-2023, 05:29 AMRenaltI hope you are feeling better!Quote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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03-25-2023, 05:37 AMFatalFatalis
Ngl, I liked "TitanMen I" more, the sequel fell off.
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03-25-2023, 05:37 AMEliaStormbladeTitanMen II was kinda boring, but TitanMen III marked a great return to form.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatalFatalis
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03-25-2023, 05:39 AMNessunLiterally all of your posts are you complaining about anyone that isn't a cis straight white dude. Your entire worldview is based around being terrified of different types of people. You come into threads, antagonize people for wanting diversity, and then act smug when they (rightfully) block you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thelasoriao
Get a hobby. -
03-25-2023, 05:47 AMRenalt
Well...I consider this troll thread a success since it got people fighting.
Honestly not that hard to do though. I have a day off tomorrow so perhaps I'll get some popcorn and see what tomorrow brings for entertainment.