7.0 Poster Class

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

How about this.....
What if they Remix what they did in Shadowbringers and had the WoL switch between Jobs.
BUT......
They have him in Various different scenes and Settings and areas, showcasing a Different job?
Like for instance, they might showcase Female Hrothgar (copium overload) and have the WoL fighting with / saving a Queen as a Gunbreaker.

But if the Next Expansion takes place during a Flood of Darkness, I wanna think Summoner. I dont think they got any Rep in a Cinematic.

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Or... pulling out a magical chainsaw and becoming a magical garment girl... even though poster boy is a guy... >.>

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Originally Posted by Limecat

If our escapades in the 13th don't get wrapped up with a neat little bow by 6.5 and continue into 7.0 in a major way, I'd fully expect them to use RPR.

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If the stuff with the 13th continues into the expansion, I think White Mage would also very much work, as in the lore you had the War of the Magi where you had white mages from Amdapor fighting the voidsent backed black mages from Mcach...

But I do hope they don't just pull a reverse-Shadowbringers of "We're gonna bring the Light to the 13th!"

you'll probably never get a healer as poster boy job

Ninja or Reaper as the next posterboy

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Originally Posted by Anienai

1. FemRoe Warrior
2. FemRoe Mch
3. FemRoe Ninja
4. FemRoe Reaper
5. FemRoe Gunbreaker
6. FemRoe Red Mage

My gil is on FemRoe Warrior. :)

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Blessings upon you, my fellow femroe enjoyer.

BLU packaged with a New World expansion. Pretty please?

Possibly a other melee job, or even a caster. (Because casters and scouting are due for another job)

A new scouting job or black mage are my current bets.

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

Where do you think we are going? I’m genuinely curious because I don’t have any idea where the story is going after we wrap up the current MSQ arc.

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Based on where the current story is taking us.

The thirteenth, to help Zero fix it like we did with the first, Golbez being a stepping stone to get us there much like Ilberd for stormblood.

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Originally Posted by Cabalabob

Based on where the current story is taking us.

The thirteenth, to help Zero fix it like we did with the first, Golbez being a stepping stone to get us there much like Ilberd for stormblood.

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Yoshi-P had already stated there are no hints of where we're going right now, the current story has nothing to do with it. Meaning the 6.5 patch will be the thing that tells us where we're going (after fanfest already gives us the trailer for it of course).

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Yoshi-P had already stated there are no hints of where we're going right now, the current story has nothing to do with it. Meaning the 6.5 patch will be the thing that tells us where we're going (after fanfest already gives us the trailer for it of course).

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It doesnt mean we wont go there. Important thing to remember is that things can be written without being meant to be hints for future; and then in retrospect other things are written based off past things, turning them into hints only retroactively. A lot of ff14's writing does that rather cleverly, so possibility of 13th is not entirely out of picture just because of Yoshi-P's words.

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Originally Posted by Zairava

I'd like to believe they would go with black mage, it's high time a caster got some love as a poster child

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Yeah. Pity that derplander seems to be tank/melee exclusively kind of guy since 2.0.
Casters can be marketable too!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...iv_ps4_fob.jpg

I want a healer as a poster job just to see how they'll do it xD

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Originally Posted by hagare

I want a healer as a poster job just to see how they'll do it xD

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So you agree with Warrior.

if we go to meracydia the forst one that comes to mind would be summoner. just because of the allag connection.
but somehow i think we had enough books in the scions.

so i think either white mage, black mage or the new job... its time for a mage. just a hunch

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

It doesnt mean we wont go there. Important thing to remember is that things can be written without being meant to be hints for future; and then in retrospect other things are written based off past things, turning them into hints only retroactively. A lot of ff14's writing does that rather cleverly, so possibility of 13th is not entirely out of picture just because of Yoshi-P's words.

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yeah but are we seriously going to have a ShB 2.0? When we still have so much left to explore in our current world. I highly doubt the Thirteenth will be the focus for 7.0

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

It's always been a melee, so I'm going to go with Rogue/Ninja.
With characters going their separate ways and the WoL maybe leaning more towards taking up the mantle of Azem, being a traveller and wayfarer, on a journey to visit [The] New Worlds... a rogue seems fitting.

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I originally thought 7.0 was to have Ninja as the poster job, back when I thought it was going to be focusing purely on Garlemald. I figured it would be fitting for a theme of sneaking into Garlemald to bring them down.
But when they revealed it was heading towards the finale of this overall story arc, I knew that wasn't going to happen.

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Originally Posted by hagare

I want a healer as a poster job just to see how they'll do it xD

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The issue with them having boxart boy as a healer is that it's viewed as a support role and they want boxart boy to be the star. So unless everyone in the world dies and requires some kind of mass resurrection we're not likely to see boxart boy as a healer. They'd probably have him show up as the founder of a store chain called Walls R Us with a sign showing the motto of "Keeping things erect since 2013" first... >.>

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Originally Posted by AnotherPerson

Healer discrimination right there

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Make that any casters at all.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

I'm so banking hard on the new class being Geomancer but we'll see

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It already exists in the game, I think? Not as a job, but I vaguely remember it being a part of the AST quests.


To the OP: Probably BLM. It's Yoshi's favorite class and it'd be the first caster. Also isn't a "dark mage" sort of a big rpg thing? Like it should happen at some point.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

The issue with them having boxart boy as a healer is that it's viewed as a support role and they want boxart boy to be the star. So unless everyone in the world dies and requires some kind of mass resurrection we're not likely to see boxart boy as a healer. They'd probably have him show up as the founder of a store chain called Walls R Us with a sign showing the motto of "Keeping things erect since 2013" first... >.>

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hence "just to see how they'll do it"

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Originally Posted by Anienai

So you agree with Warrior.

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perhaps pre-nerf :P

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

So unless everyone in the world dies and requires some kind of mass resurrection we're not likely to see boxart boy as a healer.

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As long as the theme of the expansion favours a healer main character, they might do it. If we ever get a expansion themed around undead enemies I am willing to bet the poster WoL will be a healer

They might even smack Krile in there as the sidekick Sword/Shield of the WoL during the expac (if they wanna sell a new DPS/Tank in the poster)

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Originally Posted by Raraka

As long as the theme of the expansion favours a healer main character, they might do it. If we ever get a expansion themed around undead enemies I am willing to bet the poster WoL will be a healer

They might even smack Krile in there as the sidekick Sword/Shield of the WoL during the expac (if they wanna sell a new DPS/Tank in the poster)

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If it were a normal FF game sure. Healer VS Undead... but this is FFXIV where just about every traditional RPG mechanic has been stripped from the game so we can burn fire elementals to death, stab slimes to death, drain HP from undead (before the spell was removed as button bloat), etc...

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

It already exists in the game, I think? Not as a job, but I vaguely remember it being a part of the AST quests.


To the OP: Probably BLM. It's Yoshi's favorite class and it'd be the first caster. Also isn't a "dark mage" sort of a big rpg thing? Like it should happen at some point.

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Geomancy had a small cameo role in the AST quests.
Meanwhile Geomancy is the star of an entire quest line, raid series and dungeon, in the Four Lords, with Geomancers themselves appearing in Swallows Compass as enemies.
Why does everyone forget this?

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

It doesnt mean we wont go there. Important thing to remember is that things can be written without being meant to be hints for future; and then in retrospect other things are written based off past things, turning them into hints only retroactively. A lot of ff14's writing does that rather cleverly, so possibility of 13th is not entirely out of picture just because of Yoshi-P's words.

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I'd wager that saying "there are no hints to where 7.0 will go" right in the middle of a heavily 13th focus MSQ quest line, is fairly clear indication that 7.0 has nothing to do with the 13th.

Based on their track record we can scratch out any casters, so healers/magic DPS is a no. So it'll probably be whatever DPS they release because the other jobs already have scion representation. Except maybe machinist, but derplander hasn't taken up a ranged role since the beginning too.

And even if they did pick a magic class it wouldn't be SCH/SMN. There has been no point in history where derplander has even looked in the direction of a book let alone opened one.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

So it'll probably be whatever DPS they release because the other jobs already have scion representation. Except maybe machinist, but derplander hasn't taken up a ranged role since the beginning too.

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Actually, he picked up ARC briefly in an Echo scene back in 1.0's opening (he was GLA at the start and end of it though). He's also ARC in SHB's opening movie when it shows him wandering in the First (he's holding the same bow and a now empty quiver he used in 1.0's opening). So yeah he definetely has used a ranged class in the past, so MCH is a good a choice for his next 'poster class' role as any I guess.

Not that he was pretty good in the role either..

-New 7.0 Job

- Bard: WoL was also a gladiator at one point, I think and he became a Paladin this expansion. So Bard wouldn't be out of the question.

- Summoner: The primals in Eoreza aren't a threat anymore, so I can see the WoL taking full advantage of this going Summoner.

My bet is on some new job which will be a dual wielding Techno Barbarian.

If we're going to Meracydia then we have to assume that place is a barren wasteland filled with remnants of Allagan technology that natives picked up.

If the WoL is a new class it might be Dyamis related.
Something like
Empathic Seer.
And he just chucks dynamite at everything cause he has no idea how dynamis works still.

Random thought that crossed my mind.

We got a new Healer job in Endwalker and after Stormblood we are not likely to get 2 new DPS in a single expansion so 7.0 if they stay with 2 jobs per expansion will most likely be tank + DPS
7.0 could be the first chapter of a long saga like the one we just finished at the start of Endwalker making it possibly like a fresh start.
So based on those 2 things... Poster job as a new Tank job Freelancer. It would use a Bastard sword or hand and a half sword with no shield so it could be used 1 or 2 handed depending on the skill used and its skills wouldn't be anything super flashy. It would be a real "meat and potatoes" grounded type of tank loaded with skills often given as basic things to beginner jobs in the FF series like Throw Stone.

I'd like it to be Corsair, or whatever new name they might give it. Would be exciting to have the trailer cut to the WoL at the bow of their own ship, navigating to the new world (Or Meracydia). And a scene change to them using their saber to cut through vines and such.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

CNJ and WHM share/shared some elements, mostly from the nature aspect, like stone/wind themed spells, Stoneskin and Stone for example, the first of which was removed but is still used by random NPCs. Archer and BRD shares traits with, well, BRD and Ranger. Warrior has Viking-like traits and abilities, all while wielding a giant axe. I could go on, but I think my point has been made. They've combined a lot of past FF jobs into the ones we have now in FF XIV as hybrids of sorts. I'm not opposed to them branching out though. I'm just calling it as I see it.

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To add onto this, Yoshi-P has already said that any future jobs will likely not come from the FF catalog of jobs and be completely new.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi-P

Job names are especially tough. After all, there’s no point if a job is similar to its namesake in name only; its gameplay experience needs to match their pre-established design too. At this point, I’m thinking we have no choice but to come up with brand new jobs that haven’t appeared in the FF series before.

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Originally Posted by Matsui

As long as new game elements aren’t being introduced, new jobs are designed to fulfill a battle role that can already be filled by an existing job. That said, we can’t release a superior version of a certain job, and a new job that offers the same experience as an existing one would defeat the purpose of adding a new job. In that sense, it’s very difficult to come up with a new job.

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Geomancer is already Conjurer from both a gameplay and a lore point of view while also getting tied as a parallel to Astrologian. I don't expect a healer to come out in 7.0 considering they already went through an effort to sort out the 3 we had before to make room for a 4th.


It would be nice to add a scouting job since there's only 1 that uses that gear and that would round us out to 2 striking, 2 maiming, and 2 scouting DoW. Beyond that, I wouldn't have a guess. Maybe a prestige version of BLU that's balanced for group play that's unlocked if you complete all the BLU content.

Or maybe if we go to the New World, BLU is the poster class itself anyway.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

To add onto this, Yoshi-P has already said that any future jobs will likely not come from the FF catalog of jobs and be completely new.




Geomancer is already Conjurer from both a gameplay and a lore point of view while also getting tied as a parallel to Astrologian. I don't expect a healer to come out in 7.0 considering they already went through an effort to sort out the 3 we had before to make room for a 4th.


It would be nice to add a scouting job since there's only 1 that uses that gear and that would round us out to 2 striking, 2 maiming, and 2 scouting DoW. Beyond that, I wouldn't have a guess. Maybe a prestige version of BLU that's balanced for group play that's unlocked if you complete all the BLU content.

Or maybe if we go to the New World, BLU is the poster class itself anyway.

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GEO wouldn't need to be too similar to CNJ or AST if it was a Magical DPS Job rather than a healer. Which is how it should be anyway, more in line with Yanxian Geomancy, and with a focus on ground effects and positional based mechanics, using Wind and Water elemental spells. We have yet to have any serious Water spell representation outside of BLU.
An alternative that would carry over many of the same themes and aesthetics could be Onmyoji.

BLU as a regular job being our "new" job would also be hugely disappointing. We expect a new job, not a recycled job.

But I agree that a Scouting job is most likely.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Whatever it is, I'm hoping for a scouting job that is a reverse red mage. It does melee attacks to build up a gauge so it can do powerful casting abilities as its burst.

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isn't that just Ninja? A scouting job that is melee, but goes into ranged.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

isn't that just Ninja? A scouting job that is melee, but goes into ranged.

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The difference is Ninja constantly has access to their Mudras for magic range. This one would have no magic range until the burst.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

GEO wouldn't need to be too similar to CNJ or AST if it was a Magical DPS Job rather than a healer. Which is how it should be anyway, more in line with Yanxian Geomancy, and with a focus on ground effects and positional based mechanics, using Wind and Water elemental spells. We have yet to have any serious Water spell representation outside of BLU.
An alternative that would carry over many of the same themes and aesthetics could be Onmyoji.

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The geomancer we have in the game uses conjurer assets and the NPC even uses a CNJ wand. The lore book also says outright that geomancy is a combination of conjury and astromancy and there's a whole plot point that using Astrologian healing spells intertwines with geomancy. If they're not supposed to be a healer, or even if they are and they're introduced as a playable job, I'd imagine there would need to be some retconning in the AST questline considering the whole SB part was set up to show how it's the eastern version of AST.

Onmyojutsu is in the lore book as being the eastern version of thaumaturgy, where their magic is all about balancing umbral and astral magic exactly like a THM or BLM.


Considering we're probably not going to get any healers, probably not going to get anything from a previous FF, not going to get anything too similar as something else per the interview quotes I posted, and probably not getting a new pet job considering how those have been greatly diminished, we're not likely to get either of these.

My money is either on GNB being the poster class-- or Machinist/Dancer (just for front cover alone). Though ARR was technically BLM for the cover of the game (and cutscenes was WAR). MNK/SAM was the cutscene cover for Stormblood, and the actual cover was Zenos

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

The geomancer we have in the game uses conjurer assets and the NPC even uses a CNJ wand. The lore book also says outright that geomancy is a combination of conjury and astromancy and there's a whole plot point that using Astrologian healing spells intertwines with geomancy. If they're not supposed to be a healer, or even if they are and they're introduced as a playable job, I'd imagine there would need to be some retconning in the AST questline considering the whole SB part was set up to show how it's the eastern version of AST.

Onmyojutsu is in the lore book as being the eastern version of thaumaturgy, where their magic is all about balancing umbral and astral magic exactly like a THM or BLM.


Considering we're probably not going to get any healers, probably not going to get anything from a previous FF, not going to get anything too similar as something else per the interview quotes I posted, and probably not getting a new pet job considering how those have been greatly diminished, we're not likely to get either of these.

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Again, why does everyone forget Swallows Compass? The Four Lords questline is much more impactful than the AST questlines in which Geo gets a small cameo role.
The Geomancer we have in the game uses a Bell for a weapon, and uses a whole host of offensive Water and Wind elemental spells. So many more assets were used here than the throw-away NPC in the AST questline that reuses stock assets like a CNJ wand and aero spell effects.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...Sai_Taisui.png

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Chiseled into the great wall which cuts across the plains of Yanxia, between two of the Dairyu Moon Gates, is the visage of Ganen, the legendary hero who united Doma. The first king of the new kingdom was not only a military genius, but also the founder of geomancy, and so after his death this royal mausoleum became a holy place to which his disciples would make pilgrimage. Alas, following the imperial invasion, it was abandoned and fell into disrepair, and none can say for certain what dangers lie within. Regardless, if Soroban's rigorous training under Qitian Dasheng is to continue, you and your comrades must venture into these hallowed halls and obtain the tamate-bako of geomancy, an ancient relic with the power to manipulate time itself...

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Again, why does everyone forget Swallows Compass? The Four Lords questline is much more impactful than the AST questlines in which Geo gets a small cameo role.
The Geomancer we have in the game uses a Bell for a weapon, and uses a whole host of offensive Water and Wind elemental spells. So many more assets were used here than the throw-away NPC in the AST questline that reuses stock assets like a CNJ wand and aero spell effects.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...Sai_Taisui.png

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Because, as a job, Geomancer has already been established. If they wanted to make it its own thing somehiow, I would not be opposed, but it's already here and established both from a lore and a gameplay perspective.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Because, as a job, Geomancer has already been established. If they wanted to make it its own thing somehiow, I would not be opposed, but it's already here.

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That's Hingan geomancy that's featured in the AST questlines.
Ganen's is Yanxian geomancy.