I can haz 2.0 website pwease?

FYI i've been checking arealmreborn.com for the last 3 weeks and its been returning server not found error message. So this is not a new thing, and don't get your hopes up of any time soon, as they will advertise the game more in august i would guess that we will have to wait till then for the new info site.

SE definition of soon is a proportion of the companies life span, as the company gets older soon equates to more time.

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FYI i've been checking arealmreborn.com for the last 3 weeks and its been returning server not found error message. So this is not a new thing, and don't get your hopes up of any time soon, as they will advertise the game more in august i would guess that we will have to wait till then for the new info site.

SE definition of soon is a proportion of the companies life span, as the company gets older soon equates to more time.

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"Soon after E3" not " Will be releasing the New Website in August" :/ August is 2 months after E3.. which is def.. not "soon"

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Originally Posted by Starlord

"Soon after E3" not " Will be releasing the New Website in August" :/ August is 2 months after E3.. which is def.. not "soon"

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Trust me...

When we heard about 2 new avatars releasing soon for SMNs in 2006/2007 vanafest, we didn't expect soon to be 2009/2010 with the advent of Abyssea and level cap increase, this is why while there's hope..SE does have a broad range on when they say "soon" xD

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"Soon after E3" not " Will be releasing the New Website in August" :/ August is 2 months after E3.. which is def.. not "soon"

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Some Math:

after > soon after

right?


if so (from letter of producer XXIX):

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The next letter is scheduled for after E3, and I’ll be writing about patch 1.23 as well as version 2.0.

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....it means next letter from producer might be September/October.

So 1.23 might be November/December, right?


February/March open beta confirmed. /nod


Following this time line we indeed end up with an E3 2013 launch trailer /nod /nod

Meh

/10charismastic

In SE's world im sure they think that they will be releasing Final Fantasy XVI very soon.

Actually if you go back and look at the 2.0 PDF's, Yoshi-P pulled off his ninja skills and updated some of them so that the trailer is now part of the August Marketing campaign, which will probably include the website.

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Actually if you go back and look at the 2.0 PDF's, Yoshi-P pulled off his ninja skills and updated some of them so that the trailer is now part of the August Marketing campaign, which will probably include the website.

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　Nope he already mentioned he made changes to the roadmap in the Producer Letter, and in that same letter he talked about the website being up after E3

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

　Nope he already mentioned he made changes to the roadmap in the Producer Letter, and in that same letter he talked about the website being up after E3

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Exactly, I suspect it will be up next week, when Yoshi-P is back in his Quarters demanding stuffz :P

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Well, the public release of new info regarding version 2.0 is set to kickoff with this year’s E3 in Los Angeles. We also plan to unveil a brand new promotion site for version 2.0 soon after E3 ends.

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Zhe crowds is waiting, Yoshi :3

A shame that 12 hours maintenance yesterday did almost next to nothing content wise(I didn't see them make any posts about what it was for besides some achievement thing) here I was thinking when SE said soon it actually meant soon!

idc either way lol 2.0 website will come when it comes so don't think im complaining, just trying to be silly I guess ^^

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A shame that 12 hours maintenance yesterday did almost next to nothing content wise(I didn't see them make any posts about what it was for besides some achievement thing) here I was thinking when SE said soon it actually meant soon!

idc either way lol 2.0 website will come when it comes so don't think im complaining, just trying to be silly I guess ^^

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They did something with the Account Management, nothing content related :3

Launching within a few weeks after E3. It's not in August.

I'm sure the website is sitting on a development server somewhere. I bet someone can find it if they dig deep enough.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

"Soon after E3" not " Will be releasing the New Website in August" :/ August is 2 months after E3.. which is def.. not "soon"

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I see you're not familiar with Square's definition of "soon".

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I see you're not familiar with Square's definition of "soon".

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Like, tomorrow, right?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I see you're not familiar with Square's definition of "soon".

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Soon after E3, Not Soon as in the Next Event.. or that be in contradiction to his statement in his letter.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII News coming soon!
March 14, 2012

Just an example of SEs soon :)

Not even E3 2012 was soon enough! And we got this soon for a long time now. :cool:

Even if the website is release the information may be the same as they show at E3 and people going to come here and complain about how lack of information there is on the website lol.

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Final Fantasy Versus XIII News coming soon!
March 14, 2012

Just an example of SEs soon :)

Not even E3 2012 was soon enough! And we got this soon for a long time now. :cool:

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Different Producers.. Yoshi-p has been on cue alot of the times.. and he comes forward when he knows its going to be delayed.. and the community here don't help it any when either he gives dates or not..

Thought I give this a bump, and say 2.0 Website tomorrows' Please SE? <3

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Thought I give this a bump, and say 2.0 Website tomorrows' Please SE? <3

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Sure, lemme get this shipment of ice to hell real quick.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Sure, lemme get this shipment of ice to hell real quick.

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Ah, heading back home to visit the folks huh?

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Sure, lemme get this shipment of ice to hell real quick.

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Be careful the ice will probably melt and boil right in your hands ^^.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Sure, lemme get this shipment of ice to hell real quick.

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My flying pig will deliver it for you, no problem.

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Ah, heading back home to visit the folks huh?

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The confusing thing is they said they would release the 2.0 website shortly after E3 but held back the promo video at E3 because of their new marketing philosophy of "a flood of 2.0 info" in August versus "a slow trickle." Isn't that sort of counter intuitive? I mean why not hold the website back until August if you are trying to release a flood of information at once. To me, the website will contain a great deal of information pertaining 2.0 (you could say a figurative flood's worth relative to what we have now)... So then why hold back video...? Why release the website shortly after E3 and not in August...?

Guess time will tell, speculate until then!

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The confusing thing is they said they would release the 2.0 website shortly after E3 but held back the promo video at E3 because of their new marketing philosophy of "a flood of 2.0 info" in August versus "a slow trickle." Isn't that sort of counter intuitive? I mean why not hold the website back until August if you are trying to release a flood of information at once. To me, the website will contain a great deal of information pertaining 2.0 (you could say a figurative flood's worth relative to what we have now)... So then why hold back video...? Why release the website shortly after E3 and not in August...?

Guess time will tell, speculate until then!

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Website will come ( with probably a short video and the same information we got already with 1-2 new soundtracks of 2.0) then as we get closer to august will get info slowly until Gamescom, in which they dump everything into it. That's what I get from it.

This is rather disappointing I was looking forward to the website but it'll happen eventually...

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Originally Posted by Hohenheim

This is rather disappointing I was looking forward to the website but it'll happen eventually...

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Yeah, there should have also been a new letter from producer ;_;

Lodestone frontpage should tell you something.
Aka: he's in france, so it's not releasing anything now

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Lodestone frontpage should tell you something.
Aka: he's in france, so it's not releasing anything now

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So because he is not at the main office he can't have the website released? No, he can have the people creating it release it no matter where he is. It just isn't done yet.

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Originally Posted by Daku_Naito

So because he is not at the main office he can't have the website released? No, he can have the people creating it release it no matter where he is. It just isn't done yet.

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You speak the truth.
People seem to have no idea what a producers work actually includes.
It's basically bits of pr and 90% of time schedules and meetings to see if they hold up.

A producer does not do: design, gameplay design, battle design, art( of any kind), programming(of any kind), not even middle management (even in a relatively small company), if he is producing there is no time to focus on absolutely antyhing else that the dates money and output of the teams.

By reading this website you'd think Naoki has designed, programmed, and tweaked the battle system and now we're being suggested that it's up to him to press the submit website button? Seriously guys.

(also from just basic web publishing perspective the whole site could be easily ordered from your neighbour and it wouldn't affect the procedure nor delivery in any way. internet exists.)

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You speak the truth.
People seem to have no idea what a producers work actually includes.
It's basically bits of pr and 90% of time schedules and meetings to see if they hold up.

A producer does not do: design, gameplay design, battle design, art( of any kind), programming(of any kind), not even middle management (even in a relatively small company), if he is producing there is no time to focus on absolutely antyhing else that the dates money and output of the teams.

By reading this website you'd think Naoki has designed, programmed, and tweaked the battle system and now we're being suggested that it's up to him to press the submit website button? Seriously guys.

(also from just basic web publishing perspective the whole site could be easily ordered from your neighbour and it wouldn't affect the procedure nor delivery in any way. internet exists.)

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Hmmm, then I suppose it's a good thing he is the Director as well as the Producer. Producers tend to be valuable (though somewhat glorified) managers, as you said. Directors, on the other hand do have their hands in every aspect of development. We have no way of knowing if he is more of a Producer or more of a Director since he holds both titles. Evidence suggests he is more of a Director though.

I just don't understand why they say "soon" and not "in a few weeks", or "in a few months" or "in August" or "we didn't decide yet". And I am not sure, but didn't they tell to release it at the end of the month in march?

I'm just as eager to see new 2.0 stuff also, but at the same time, I'm kinda sick of getting myself hyped up about things. 2.0 is coming, I know it's coming, and I can wait until it gets here.

As far as hype goes though... If they want to get the attention of as many people as possible for a solid re-launch, then they are definitely making the right decision to flood the market with information rather than let it trickle in. Unlike other MMOs, XIV has a bad image in the mind of quite a few MMO players. The best way to combat this is to get as much info about 2.0 out as quickly as possibly, in a fairly short time before release in order to keep the haters speculation to a minimum.

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I just don't understand why they say "soon" and not "in a few weeks", or "in a few months" or "in August" or "we didn't decide yet". And I am not sure, but didn't they tell to release it at the end of the month in march?

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I"ll have to agree with this, they wanted to make a bigger impact with the site but all they've done is "trickle" information even though they wanted to release a flood of information around E3. While sure you can impress people with pictures and some interviews with redundant questions in some of them it still nothing like actually making the sit available.

They seemed so adamant about releasing a flood of information but I'm sure everyone would agree that what we've received so far is but a trickle of what we're expecting in terms of details of 2.0. Perhaps by the end of this week they'll be some news after they release 1.22c perhaps some of the 2.0 info is related to 1.23 so they may be waiting for 1.23 to release information though it would be nice to get an accurate estimate as to what "soon" implies whether it be by the end of June or Early July, it's a lot better then saying soon and being into the 2nd week with no real resolution as to when the actual information will arrive.

Heck they didn't even take the time to update the main site with something as simple as "Yoshida been busy these last few days if you've missed it here are links to the following interviews, Enjoy!" They did really bother to take the time to even inform people that the interviews were done or had taken place which is kinda odd, all they've really cared about is notifying us of when the legacy bonus is done and continuously changing the requirements and suggesting when 2.0 will be ready which does get really boring to see after a while lol.

But ya, just gotta keep being patient and wait til they release it, I'm sure people are eager to see the site after the interviews and screenshots, but right now that interest may be starting to fade with nothing released after it, people are going to forget those screenshots and interviews or may have already forgotten about it. A person who might not be playing this game atm, may have spent last week visiting the site to see if they launched the site, but after the week had passed they may have just given up looking since they only see what was done at E3 as hype and nothing more. They had a good impact with the info they released but they're definitely letting all the helium out of the balloon lol.

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As a slight edit though the likely answer as to why there has been no 2.0 site is because of Vanafest. For some reason they don't like to release big information on both MMOs at the same time. if you've noticed one mmo always seem to go silent with news when the other one begins to rumble with news so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the revealed of the 2.0 site didn't happen til next Monday once Vanafest is over.

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I just don't understand why they say "soon" and not "in a few weeks", or "in a few months" or "in August" or "we didn't decide yet". And I am not sure, but didn't they tell to release it at the end of the month in march?

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Yeah this. No one really would care when it comes out if they would just be legit with the time period. If its few weeks or few months doesn't make a difference but at least then people would have a realistic understanding of when :/

They're already losing time.
Last e3 XIII-2 teaser was announced and the game was advertised throughout the entire year until it's release.

Are they really letting a numbered FF title to slip by like this with less advertising than XIII-2?!

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Originally Posted by Daku_Naito

So because he is not at the main office he can't have the website released? No, he can have the people creating it release it no matter where he is. It just isn't done yet.

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Actually, i was talking about producer letter