Marilith is a lamia type and follows the seductress boss model and is most decidedly not flat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shibi
Maduin is a dude. He's Terra's father. He does have Byregot level pecs. You probably saw a picture of his Esper form.
Halicarnassus would be the one with the most basis to be LGBTQ+. That's the one that's flipped from male to female.
Seraph is the angelic type summon. That's probably the one most likely to be flat.
To the OP, if they're breaking the ToS in public chat, report them. And you aren't going to get a warning unless you're doing something to break it. too, in your response to them.
Constant Vulgarity in Public Chat. WHY is this allowed?
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11-05-2022, 07:55 PMTaleraRistain
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11-05-2022, 11:15 PMConadrium1) As you make clear in your complaint, these groups carefully talk AROUND what they are doing. No profanity or vulgarity is actually stated in their adds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morganti
2) If action was taken in your acct, you didn’t say “a word” against it. Judgemental attacks don’t fly around here.
3) Clearly, someones never been to Goldshire. No one attacks you until you start trying to tell people what they can and can’t do.
If you aren’t into it; don’t join. Not everything revolves around you. -
11-06-2022, 01:24 AMAsari5
what is the vulgar part in these shouts? or am i on a server these types of shouts dont exist? while something like that where a really rare occasion pre database travel now i almost see those daylie... but non of them evere contained vulgarities
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11-06-2022, 01:52 AMZebraoracleDon't you know? Standing around afk, dancing, emote spamming, and socializing in a venue is roleplaying! /sQuote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
I feel like the idea of roleplaying in 14 has become so diluted that it almost doesn't mean anything anymore. My own friends think people who afk, meme, and play bard music are roleplayers and I just sigh. -
11-06-2022, 03:42 AMRenaltI heard in some of those places...you can...Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
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Hold hands with women. -
11-06-2022, 04:05 AMPayadopaRP =/= ERPQuote:
Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra
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11-06-2022, 04:23 AMXaruko_NexumeIt is? News to me. Not that I mind, thats fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra
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11-06-2022, 04:45 AMcaffe_macchiato
Roleplay and “soft content” is the only thing left for many people to do in the off-season. The current tier is largely over and we won’t get a new one for another few months. Everything between now and then is just casual story mode and weekly facerolls. So people have to fill the void. Like it or not, nightclubs keep a lot of people subbed to the game. It’s good business and helps the world feel alive. It also helps that FFXIV has one of the most active and robust modding scenes in gaming, which makes gpose, housing, and erotic content very popular. All of those are intertwined with the nightclub scene and share a playerbase that props this game up during the droughts. Without that, what are you getting? A bog-standard sword-and-sorcery MMO? This isn’t WoW, this is FFXIV. Enjoy the modding tools, get jiggy with your friends, and shake your booty at a nightclub. It’s Final Fantasy, darling!
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11-06-2022, 07:24 AMLunalepsyYou want to play an MMO, yet you complain about human nature. Make up your mind!Quote:
Originally Posted by Morganti
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11-06-2022, 07:43 AMRanakuIf you need the public chat to socialize with others you are anyways lost in my eyes. Nobody needs the public chat tbh, it's just memes and advertisement anyways. People talk on discord, in linkshells or fc chats and even groups. If you really want to "not play the game alone" then do that instead of crying about something that isn't used to socialize anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morganti
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11-06-2022, 08:12 AMSkivvyEhhh, I'd disagree with that. Public chats can have a lot more varied topics as more people are involved, lets you meet new people, and you can pop in and out as you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranaku
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11-06-2022, 08:54 AMSassyAssassin
See thats why Zenos and I erp in private.
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11-06-2022, 11:03 AMLianaThorneAre we still calling afking in someone's house RP?Quote:
Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato
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11-06-2022, 11:16 AMUnrealTai
Omg op.
Vulgarity ? Who cares, this isn't a Church
Ads? Ok yes annoying, just blacklist them
But being the topic subject is about vulgarity, not the ads. Grow up.
Don't even report it. Acting like were all in child day care. -
11-06-2022, 11:42 AMStormpeaksbut muhhh pg-13 game waaaaaaaaaaaaah anything sexual is disgustingQuote:
Originally Posted by UnrealTai
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11-06-2022, 11:49 AMRanakuWe are talking here about the shout/yell chat tho, not the say. Cause that is where the advertisement is usually posted. And these are rarely used to talk and socialize normally cause it is a nuisance to other players, since socializing is not posting quick one ad message but rather ten in under a minute...which can easily drive console players to insanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
And that was what OP was talking about, right? But it kinda doesn't make sense, since these two chats are usually not used to socialize like ever. So you can turn them off without turning yourself into some sort of outcast or hermit like OP says.
Have to say tho my wording there was a bit off, since say is also a public chat. What i meant is the shout and yell, not say. Say is usually used for socializing yeah but not for spamming advertisements, except some gil sellers ofc but well that's not the topic here. -
11-06-2022, 12:06 PMroniboschZenos, you cheating bastard.Quote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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11-06-2022, 08:41 PMSassyAssassinPlease don’t worry too much, the bastard was screaming your name some times and a bunch others, I slapped him for it but he liked thatQuote:
Originally Posted by ronibosch
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11-07-2022, 04:10 AMRokkethey're not. the clubs aren't rp venues, they tend to be just people afk while /beesknees or a handful of people talking in say while /beesknees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
Wonder why they're even on Dynamis, I don't think anyone even has a house to afk in there yet lol -
11-07-2022, 04:12 AMRenaltSo I guess Zenos and I had more in common than I thought. I too like a slap from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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11-07-2022, 04:31 AMAvoidy
Whenever I wander into these threads about vulgar ads, they never post examples from the game in the form of screenshots or anything. And when people ask them to share examples of what they find vulgar, they still don't do it. And when people reply with things like "I don't think saying '18+' is vulgar," the OP will be like "I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about really truly vulgar stuff but also I won't elaborate or post examples of it."
I'm not even trying to be a dick here, I just don't stand around these main towns so I genuinely have no idea what OP is on about and I'm actually legitimately curious and would like to see examples of how bad it gets, but the examples never get posted for some reason. -
11-07-2022, 05:13 AMRenaltStuff like holding hands. If they wanna get real lewd that might even interlock their fingers while holding hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avoidy
I hope I don't get banned for saying that. -
11-07-2022, 05:19 AMLittleImpI can try to collect some examples today on Crystal, but it doesn't usually cross my mind to screenshot these things and keep them around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avoidy
There are a lot of clubs that are pretty overt about their 'services' or theming in their adverts; It's not terribly uncommon to see things openly advertised as a 'BDSM Club' for example.
Others advertise a Carrd URL which if visited, very openly advertises sexual content and services, sometimes outright having pornographic imagery. I think it's pretty bad to have links to porn/sex services being shared in public channels, even if the initial advert itself is relatively innocuous. -
11-07-2022, 10:05 AMStormpeaksI have a very simple solution for youQuote:
Originally Posted by LittleImp
Dont open the link.
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11-07-2022, 10:54 AMrainichanQuote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
2lewd for these forums, Renalt. You gotta censor that h*lding h*nds stuff!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
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11-07-2022, 11:01 AMRenaltOh never. As soon as I get home I'm gonna log on and be outside the Quicksand and hold hands with all the ladies...with NO GLOVES ON!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainichan
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11-07-2022, 11:21 AMMidareyukkiRight. That's it. Mentioning it is one thing. But you're really going to expose everyone to public indecency like that in-game? Ban hammer!! Ban hammer right now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
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11-07-2022, 11:42 AMSassyAssassinPlease don’t listen to him, always use protection or you might be left with an unsolicited lalafel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
Put those gloves back on! -
11-07-2022, 11:48 AMrainichanI've been SCANDALIZED, where's my fainting couch?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
Man, Brandon Sanderson had it right in Stormlight by having a gloved safe hand on women in his books... it's the only way to make sure it's not 2lewd.Quote:
Originally Posted by SassyAssassin
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11-07-2022, 11:59 AMLunaxia
I've always found it ironic how the same people who argue against judging others and claim that everyone should express themselves and their sexuality how they like... will immediately shame other people as "prudes" for preferring not to be involved in it and not having it pushed into their faces all the time.
It's hardly puritan to not want a quasi-nightclub/ red-light district in a teen-rated fantasy game. The RP community thrived for many years without all this ridiculous advertising and keeping relatively to themselves, it's gone far beyond obnoxious. -
11-07-2022, 12:07 PMMidareyukkiSee, this would be an excellent point to make, that the people who clamour for freedom the most aren't respecting people with their own tastes (or distastes) and preferences, even if said preferences meant an aversion to sexual or lewd content...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunaxia
IF
We had any indication that that's what OP meant. OP just uses descriptors such as "filth" and "Vulgarity", yet neither provides evidence for it nor clarifies what was actually said. And yes, there are ways to refer to what happened in safe ways without being explicit. It is unclear whether the content was sexual in nature, aggressive in nature, or whichever. In fact, the fact that we have no evidence for what happened, with the majority expressing they've never seen people go over the line, doesn't help. It makes it look like OP is being slandarous themself, rather than actively showing that there was foul language involved. Meaning the mocking tone isn't because people are against puritanism or asexuality. It's because of how off the whole situation looks.
So umm. Sorry but you sure you're not jumping the gun to virtue-signal a bit? :x Because yes, this is what you get for being so vague, unfortunately. People will not take you seriously. It doesn't necessarily speak of anyone's character nor respect/lack thereof for people who prefer clean spaces or even asexuals. Rather it speaks of the absurdity of the thread. There is a fine line that the community draws anyway; look no further than the character portraits that showered Square Enix with reports to the point where it became a bannable offense. Meaning these things would definitely trip over far more landmines than one person coming in and insisting they saw... "something". The fact remains that people are skeptical, and you haven't seen that many people corroborating those occurrences, which only hampers credibility. And a hampered credibility leads to mockery. Unfortunately.
Edit: Now, you can argue, "Well OP saw something and made them uncomfortable, why are you mocking?". Which again loops back to the problem. Whenever asked, they refused to elaborate. We cannot help them if that's the route they choose to take. And naturally, without knowing what it was or the intensity, it's really easy to assume that this is a troll thread. Made over what's likely nothing. By someone who rather than being uncomfortable over serious things, likely needs thicker skin. -
11-07-2022, 12:49 PMLunaxiaOP actually explained himself in the first post - it's the ads that were bothering him, and what they were advertising for, and the relentlessness of it. Which a majority of the thread agrees with, because it is everywhere at the moment. Does it have to be a borderline pornographic description for OP to be bothered by having brothels and escort services ads thrown at him when he ventures into town or opens PF? We're not exactly playing GTAonline here. The demand for evidence feels a little arbitrary, particularly when all of us are well-acquainted with what he's talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
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11-07-2022, 01:05 PMMidareyukkiYeah. And nowhere is that the question of what's so vulgar and filthy about them. Merely that they are spammy. Which, as you said, everyone agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunaxia
What does spam have to do with people making fun of his sensibilities? Obviously nothing, right? You answered such yourself, no less! That it doesn't, and the people in this thread agreed that the spam was irritating, even across other Worlds.
...which is why you're willfully ignoring all the rest that OP did say. That is the problem. Those descriptors are what people are pointing out. WERE they venues of brothels and escort services? We don't know. When we asked, there was no proper response to it. Not even a simple yes or no, just vagueness. We only filled in the gaps based on the vagueness and the descriptions they gave.
We're well-acquainted with the spam, Lunaxia. Again, you said so yourself, everyone here agreed. What we didn't agree on was the intensity of the content, nor whether they're "filthy" or "vulgar". MANY things are posted all around the servers. Zodiark, for instance, spams nightclub venues all the time. But escort services and such? We don't know if that's what OP was referring to, and not everyone agreed that the posts are filthy or vulgar. And a lot of people did post their incredulity at that, which is why they asked for elaboration. So you're right, they agreed on the spam. But that's not what led to what you're complaining. -
11-07-2022, 01:25 PMLunaxia...I think it's the spamming of what are obviously brothel and ERP services in a game inclusive of a relatively young audience where one would not expect to encounter such content, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
I'm acknowledging everything OP said, and I'm confident that's absolutely what they were because I see them frequently. Is anyone assuming "companions for the night" to be advertising for a rousing game of scrabble? Are we pretending we don't know what that is? Or that "private dancing" is a free Manderville Mambo viewing? Again, why does it need to be Fifty Shades of PF for OP to take issue with it? -
11-07-2022, 01:33 PMMidareyukkiAlright, here's the thing... Clearly people aren't stupid. It's obvious that OP is referring to those spaces. In fact, I stand corrected! OP's own first post says as much:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunaxia
The issue that we didn't know was what about it was filthy. Their existence? Or what was in the messages? But whenever asked, OP refused to elaborate. When I say that other people were incredulous, what I mean is that their responses were "wait, ok sure, those exist, but they're rather tame, no filthy language or anything explicit generally happens". HOWEVER given what you just wrote, you have a similar experience to what OP might have had. Which, yes, it does counter the incredulity a bit. This does happen, it seems, rare though it may be. And perhaps mockery for it wasn't the best approach.Quote:
Is there a server that has people focused on the game and not brothels and constantly putting down anybody who is not into that?
For that I will at least apologize to OP for contributing to the mocking discourse.
However, I will also ask. Is "companions for the night" and stuff like that truly so bad? I mean, we obviously know what might happen. But that's what I'm legitimately curious about. If you asked ME if that was raunchy, even with me fully aware that it's about ERP, I'd say "no". In fact, I asked for a private "dance" at a venue once. I was 100% not interested in ERP, I just had a talk with the roleplayer. Literally nothing happened :x Also kinda helps that I'm a gay man IRL playing a Hrothgar and the other person was playing a Female Viera, I literally had zero interest to begin with xD (I just want to RP with text like normal T_T)
So for me, the language has nothing "filthy" about it. Hence why I don't understand the dilemma. Is it the action itself being presented? Because... I mean, don't we all know ERP happens in certain corners? :| -
11-07-2022, 02:07 PMLunaxiaGoing back to my original post, I think it's just not about having it thrown in your face all the time in a space you wouldn't really expect nor want to come up against it in, combined with the sheer volume of it. You can roll your eyes and have a laugh at the odd instance, but ads are everywhere now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
Personally speaking, if I were playing something like Blade and Soul, games aimed at adult audiences in general, or going into spaces open to that sort of activity, then I would place the responsibility on myself for coming across it and either choose to leave or simply put up with it. It has always been there in FFXIV to be sure, and it's hard not to be vaguely aware of the ERP scene after years of hearing about Balmung, but it kept to itself and you generally had to seek it out to find it, which didn't really bother me. What I resent now is having it foisted on me anytime I go to gathering points or want to find a party - though this isn't just about the 18+ side of things, but all the other venues and nightclub listings - it feels intrusive and almost like I'm being pulled into the RP section of the game I've always consciously avoided and didn't ask to be invited to. FFXIV is a mainstream MMO and FF title, yet this sort of thing remind me of those shady online RP chatrooms that used to be rampant prior to the age of social media. -
11-07-2022, 03:35 PMhydralus
Honestly the most vulgar people I've ever seen in shout chat aren't even ERPers. It's the shitposters talking about stuff like whether liking futa is gay or other drivel.
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11-07-2022, 04:14 PMStormpeaksYou can stay away from cities, here's your fixQuote:
Originally Posted by Lunaxia
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11-07-2022, 05:04 PMLunaxiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Stormpeaks
Something, something, fights in an empty room?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormpeaks
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11-07-2022, 07:46 PMStormpeaksThe ads themselves annoy me, what they contain I really dont care, which is what the OP is complaining about, if he really is unable to handle how "inappropriate" it is, then blocking shouts/yells IS a solutionQuote:
Originally Posted by Lunaxia