Yoshi P, you need to give people incentive to be top 100, or people won't bother.

I'd rather see some incentive for being in the bottom 100.

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

alright, enjoy your cheaters and no fresh blood actually staying and trying. CC as it is currently will not keep anybody interested even with the rewards and you will have people cheating to get to the top past the people who gatekeep. and untill you get those rewards actually implemented by the devs im going to hold my ground and say 'No you do not deserve anything more then what you are getting in CC because you already got everything while feast was a thing, suck it up buttercup.'

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Yes of course, cheaters and gatekeepers, the boogieman of the average player being mad that they don't get their wins served on a silver platter for existing and playing sub-par. For the record, the "fresh blood" is already there and I have seen many players with potential rise up and start competing with the better players. Or maybe this is a Light DC benefit, I don't know.

Stay mad.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Yes of course, cheaters and gatekeepers, the boogieman of the average player being mad that they don't get their wins served on a silver platter for existing and playing sub-par. For the record, the "fresh blood" is already there and I have seen many players with potential rise up and start competing with the better players. Or maybe this is a Light DC benefit, I don't know.

Stay mad.

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stay mad? lol nah dude imm sit here and sip some fine whiskey as i watch you all not get what you're asking for. They removed the feast and added the BP for a reason, why would they go back to it?

There was a Japanese interview with Yoshi-P at the beginning of Season 2 where he pretty much confirmed the ranked rewards were underwhelming and they would try to work on that. That's why I had hopes for better Season 3 rewards, but it was the same portraits :(

https://www.4gamer.net/games/199/G019924/20220804140/ (original interview)

Here is a grossly translated version of it :

https://i.imgur.com/zEZ0gfK.png

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Originally Posted by GordonGeeko

There was a Japanese interview with Yoshi-P at the beginning of Season 2 where he pretty much confirmed the ranked rewards were underwhelming and they would try to work on that. That's why I had hopes for better Season 3 rewards, but it was the same portraits :(

https://www.4gamer.net/games/199/G019924/20220804140/ (original interview)

Here is a grossly translated version of it :

https://i.imgur.com/zEZ0gfK.png

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so it sounds like yall are not getting shite and even if you do its still gonna be shite... good!

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Originally Posted by Adeacia

Have no rewards at all in pvp. Then we can see who actually plays pvp for fun, rather than for stuff.

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"Have no rewards at all in pvp. Then we can see who actually plays pvp for fun, rather than for stuff."

Apologies, but that argument doesn't hold water.

Remove rewards from all contents in the game and most would die within 2 weeks (savage, extremes) or wouldn't exist in the first place (relics). No gear, mounts, minions, titles, bardings, orchestrion rolls, trophies, reagents, etc.

I'd also argue that removing all rewards from the game would leave Ultimates (challenge), PvP (challenge) and RPing (socializing) as the only stuff people would do regularly.

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Originally Posted by GordonGeeko

There was a Japanese interview with Yoshi-P at the beginning of Season 2 where he pretty much confirmed the ranked rewards were underwhelming and they would try to work on that. That's why I had hopes for better Season 3 rewards, but it was the same portraits :(

https://www.4gamer.net/games/199/G019924/20220804140/ (original interview)

Here is a grossly translated version of it :

https://i.imgur.com/zEZ0gfK.png

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Yoshi has his work cut out for him. As long as it isn't a mount, glam accessory, or a minion collectable that's being offered as a reward I'm all for it. We already know how collectors get when it's an item that they can never obtained.

Did I miss any collectable categories?

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Originally Posted by Mistress_Irika

Yoshi has his work cut out for him. As long as it isn't a mount, glam accessory, or a minion collectable that's being offered as a reward I'm all for it. We already know how collectors get when it's an item that they can never obtained.

Did I miss any collectable categories?

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No, you pretty much hit every category. You also pretty much hit every category of a reward you could expect, leaving none.

No reward would make me go through that hell, and i rather not miss on a item that interest me so ... no thanks (or maybe a trophy as an housing item ?)

But no mount, glam, minion or scroll, there's a reason why they put that kind of stuff as a casual reward and they made the right choice as far as i'm concern.

There will always be people (new or not) that will compete to reach Crystal at least once, no need for new reward.

I would even say that the lack of reward will reduce the incentive for people to grind it each season, giving more chance for other to reach hightest rank.

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Originally Posted by Nikoto

you literally just want stuff without working as hard as other people did

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Tbh i dislike time limited stuff, but disagree with making past rewards easy to get.
I'd be down with letting top 100 players be able to purchase a reward from the past once a season, it'd be literally the same difficulty as back then, and make more people try for it, nobody cares about the portrait frames

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

You know what, we can play the same game the others are playing. Imagine we said the same thing about raiders.

"PVE raiders are all a bunch of mod-abusing, datamining and guide-sniffing losers that can't learn fights legit and without external help. They need to rely on cheap tactics like bringing multiple raise casters or playing meta compositions. They probably even secretly trade information about raid mechanics in world first races to ensure their top spots.

Real PVE raiders don't do raiding for the rewards, if they do they do it wrong. They should do it for the sake of raiding and raiding only, no glory, only borders. They don't need any extra reward.".

Like imagine being so unhinged to say this and actually believe in it, this is what you guys are saying about us wanting Top 100 rewards worth a dime so we have a reason to COMPETE in a god-forsaken competition.

Also, since this stupid rhetoric keeps getting parroted that Feast died despite Top 100 existing:
- Seasons with armour rewards or unique mounts had a fair bit of player traction and got even new people to the season.
- The problem Feast had was role-based matchmaking. The main key point in most matches was the Healer, an insanely stressful role. It was an uphill battle if there was a healer diff.

We asked for casuals to get cool stuff. We got cool stuff for casuals and a new style of pvp that isn't healer-centric, a lot get to play now. But HOW DARE WE ask for a trophy reward for performing exceedingly well.

I mean for f***'s sake, not even the first place gets their unique housing trophy anymore.

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This post makes absolutely no sense since there isn't any rank for PvE endgame, outside of deep dungeons. And to my knowledge there's no reward, at least no glamour/mount for the ranks in that either.

Top 100 ranks in PvP sounds cool on paper initially. But the more thought you give it, the more pointless it becomes for this game. Especially considering the MM, along with the win or loss, is legit complete RNG. It doesn't matter how good your are if the system decides to group you with 4 other players less competent than the entire posing team. Especially since you can't properly communicate (which completely disqualifies this game's TEAM based PvP from being truly competitive).

TLDR Top 100, like rank mode in general, is completely pointless in this game due to how the PvP is managed. In PvP's current state, might as well make it all casual and give everyone an equal opportunity at obtaining rewards.

They could just do another currency based on your finish and let you buy new fancy PvP stuff, with top 100 gaining enough to buy the stuff straight away while lower ranks would have to grind for a season or two to get them. No missing rewards, just time and patience. Also having a major dump for Trophy Crystals for active players would be nice, like turn in 100k in tradeable items to buy glowing versions of PvP weapons or something.

As for RNG, it definately exists. Yet consistent performance beats it over time, that's why you see a lot of the same names in top 100 in every season so far.