By the way, FFXIV IS a good game...

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

I want to like your post because I know you're kidding but then it might look as if people actually believe this lol

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I actually just noticed they're joking and they got me good. I've just seen so many people say this stuff unironically-

One of the things thus game lacks is proper Midcore content and the only thing crippling it are the dev's bad habit of carrying players who don't want to learn how to play the game. The Easy and Very Easy modes in Instanced Duties are blatant evidence of that, plus the way certain jobs have been gutted to the point of being almost useless in group content or overturned to the point they can solo group content on their own (Tanks and Healers).

Other than that, it's a good game. The devs just need to learn to not lean so much into catering to casuals and make things more balanced between casual and haddcore content so we can finally get some proper Midcore content in this game and players who refuse to learn how to play the game are actually forced to do so, otherwise they cannot progress through the content they like.

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Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch

I don't know what game you've been playing, but this is all pretty... bordering on objectively absent from this game. Also, on the underlined point, they're designing the game to be more solo oriented, so that's straight wrong. Is this bait? Might've gotten me.

EDIT: To be clear, the game is still quite good and has a lot of praise-worthy aspects, but it's none of these. In fact, many of these virtues stated in your post are things they need to improve upon.

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Originally Posted by Aluja89

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Yes, thank you. It was acknowledged here. Thirty minutes ago.

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Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch

I actually just noticed they're joking and they got me good. I've just seen so many people say this stuff unironically-

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Try "reading" next time.

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Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch

Yes, thank you. It was acknowledged here. Thirty minutes ago.


Try "reading" next time.

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YoshiP has been trying to cut his ears off; let him have this.

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Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch

Yes, thank you. It was acknowledged here. Thirty minutes ago.



Try "reading" next time.

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The fact it took you that long is still nothing short of amazing, plus the people upvoting it created such a mindblown moment of lameness that I couldn't stop myself. I apologize, but I won't take it back because it still made laps around you and yours.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

[...]The truth is that housing doesn't matter and savage doesn't matter. Heck, crafting technically doesn't matter (unless you actually keep up with the grinding and make your own leveling gear). Someone can just play the entire game through and then put it down after the latest normal content is done. [...]

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... History doesn't matter, races don't matter, glammour doesn't matter... what am I even doing here? Nothing matters after all.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

For some reason, I feel like someone needs to say this amongst the deluge of random threads complaining about literally every slight the game has because they hit end game and have nothing left but the grindy parts.

The truth is that housing doesn't matter and savage doesn't matter. Heck, crafting technically doesn't matter (unless you actually keep up with the grinding and make your own leveling gear). Someone can just play the entire game through and then put it down after the latest normal content is done.

Like out of all the threads posted about issues, the only one that really feels like it could be a valid point is the one with the healers because you feel the healer issues going through the entire game and not just end game.

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Well sure, as long as you invalidate things you don't care about, of course the game's good. Why, let's invalidate the story and the combat while we're at it. There, belissimo *chef kiss*, now it's the perfect game.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Well sure, as long as you invalidate things you don't care about, of course the game's good. Why, let's invalidate the story and the combat while we're at it. There, belissimo *chef kiss*, now it's the perfect game.

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Okay, so lets just take a minute here. You don't like the story, and you don't like the combat. The combat is literally a tab target mmo and unless there is something a bit more specific in there than the better question is why are you playing this game to begin with? Did you just get forced into it or something?

You want to see bad, how about Infestation: Survival Stories, Allods Online, Dungeons and Dragons online, Black Desert Online (sorry PVP lovers but this game is absolutely bad...), Shroud of the Ripoff... I mean shroud of the Avatar, and of course Marvel Heroes online, because nothing beats a game that revamped basically every game system it had, released on two consoles, and then closed down a few months afterwards.

Sorry but FFXIV is a solid game that has some issues, not a bad game. And saying the combat is worse than some of the games mentioned above has got to be the worst ignorance I've seen in ages.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention Tree of Savior. It was supposed to be a spiritual successor to Ragnarok online and then it turned out to be a crappy WoW clone.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

Okay, so lets just take a minute here. You don't like the story, and you don't like the combat. The combat is literally a tab target mmo and unless there is something a bit more specific in there than the better question is why are you playing this game to begin with? Did you just get forced into it or something?

You want to see bad, how about Infestation: Survival Stories, Allods Online, Dungeons and Dragons online, Black Desert Online (sorry PVP lovers but this game is absolutely bad...), Shroud of the Ripoff... I mean shroud of the Avatar, and of course Marvel Heroes online, because nothing beats a game that revamped basically every game system it had, released on two consoles, and then closed down a few months afterwards.

Sorry but FFXIV is a solid game that has some issues, not a bad game. And saying the combat is worse than some of the games mentioned above has got to be the worst ignorance I've seen in ages.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention Tree of Savior. It was supposed to be a spiritual successor to Ragnarok online and then it turned out to be a crappy WoW clone.

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Yo...

Are you asking me or yourself those questions...cuz I'm not the one who said a bunch of things didn't matter in the game?

Maybe I should've added /s to my post but it seemed so obvious at the time...

I came over from WoW. It could be that Shadowlands was so horrible, that I feel spoiled by XIV. Sure, this game could use some work, but to me, it's definately not a bad game.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Yo...

Are you asking me or yourself those questions...cuz I'm not the one who said a bunch of things didn't matter in the game?

Maybe I should've added /s to my post but it seemed so obvious at the time...

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I admit I came off a bit rough there. :D

Just, I think we all end up at that point where we step into a game that doesn't turn out the way we wished it ended up. FFXIV mostly breaks when the system gets put under stress and people end up playing it for a long period. Not sure if anyone else noticed this but it always feels like when a company tries hard to perfect what was done before, like with WoW and how it kept iterating until it hit whatever it is now, it loses a little something along the way.

The end game in this game doesn't really matter all that much because of how it got implemented. Housing was a good idea but the limitations on server real-estate apparently stop it from being a main feature, so we have to deal with a lotto system. Savage is a good idea that seems to always start off strong and then end kind of painfully. The average joe playing the game doesn't necessarily want to be a challenge runner, but they do want to have something that lets them enjoy being good at a particular role or job.

This game like many others has pros and cons to it. Nothing will ever be 100% perfect but we can leave feedback and hope for changes.

I think FF14 is an awesome game and I am glad I came over to it. But you can love something and still recognize that there are serious issues with the thing you love. Doesn't invalidate your love for the game nor does it invalidate how much these issues bother you. Hell, it probably bothers you because you love the game so much.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

This game like many others has pros and cons to it. Nothing will ever be 100% perfect but we can leave feedback and hope for changes.

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The entire Community is highly allergic to changes and suggestions in regards to Gameplay suggestions. Tell one suggestion on improvements in detail, and all you get told is to go touch sone Grass and take a break from FFXIV.

I feel like there would be less complaints if it were a single player game where everything has been made already and is finite.

Due to the nature of the game though and everything slowly coming out in pieces people are too thirsty for the next thing and get mad.

Overall the game is fantastic with amazing bosses (mechanics), story, characters and probably the most amazing collection of music in any video game.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

For some reason, I feel like someone needs to say this amongst the deluge of random threads complaining about literally every slight the game has because they hit end game and have nothing left but the grindy parts.

The truth is that housing doesn't matter and savage doesn't matter. Heck, crafting technically doesn't matter (unless you actually keep up with the grinding and make your own leveling gear). Someone can just play the entire game through and then put it down after the latest normal content is done.

Like out of all the threads posted about issues, the only one that really feels like it could be a valid point is the one with the healers because you feel the healer issues going through the entire game and not just end game.

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It doesn't matter to you.

I would assume having gainful employment in one of the largest video game conglomerates in the world is proof that XIV is at least okay. Not sure why that has to be said, lol.
*cough*22 million!*cough*