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They should have made the demotion go all the way to the lowest bracket, at this point it being Gold.

In the first bracket you can hard carry games, but by the time you hit plat it becomes a pain because of people getting lucky streaks and ending there so you have to deal with those and the people that are actually climbing.

Out of the 60~ games it took to reach Crystal the most were spent trying to herd clueless low plats to victory.

………so from the feedback I’m seeing. I view this back to fighting games and it’s normal. The casuals are going to quit and just play…casual. The rank play will be extremely niche. So they may release top 100 on up FOMO mounts and other items. Yes, the small amount of the PvP will be extremely happy that these ppl are gone, but that’s not what Yoshi wants lmao.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Straight out lies. I had multiple matches where i had to fight 4v5 with lesser combs than the enemy had and we still managed to win. I play Sage currently btw.

So just stop telling yourself its all the fault of the others.

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This is always the position held, and exclusively held, by people who lucked into high ranks.
There is no meta in CC right now, it is ENTIRELY RNG driven. There is no carrying or being carried, it's all about how much the matchmaking algorithm likes you.

to be fair when people complain about rank system being unfair or broken or cheat. Is there any better rank system you have see in any game or real life with team lol?

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Originally Posted by Sawamura

to be fair when people complain about rank system being unfair or broken or cheat. Is there any better rank system you have see in any game or real life with team lol?

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…….other than an prestige system….no.

that's such a dumb take, because if individual skill actually mattered enough for your argument to even hold water... wait for it.... THIS THREAD WOULD NOT EXSIST BECAUSE THE OP WOULD BE CRYSTAL RANK ALREADY!!!

With that said, i would be too lol @Raistlin

the fact that i have seen really skilled players get roasted in game by my team because i watched their teamates run off and attack a ninja who was clearly baiting them multiple times kinda puts holes in your argument. Maybe a better matchmaking system would be nice. @Dionysius

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Originally Posted by Osmond

………so from the feedback I’m seeing. I view this back to fighting games and it’s normal. The casuals are going to quit and just play…casual. The rank play will be extremely niche. So they may release top 100 on up FOMO mounts and other items. Yes, the small amount of the PvP will be extremely happy that these ppl are gone, but that’s not what Yoshi wants lmao.

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Ofc thats not what yoshi wants, dude shot feast and put the BP in for a reason XD

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

Let’s be honest here. There are allot of cheaters in the higher tiers. Mostly Diamond+. I played some games and literally had a tank just run in and stand there and get killed every time. People who die 5-8 times in a match literally has me suspicious. Never had people die that much in lower ranks and even higher ranks but when I see some people run in and just stand there and get killed that’s definitely cheating/win trading.

Yeah there is skill involved as you rank up but you definitely can’t carry a team even if you play an overpowered job if you have people throwing the matches. It’s impossible. I believe OP when he says he’s encountering cheaters. I’ve seen them myself. Allot of them. It’s sad because if you didn’t climb early now it’s even worst time to try to climb because so many are throwing matches.

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The most recent cheater experience i have dealt with was a Dragoon that two hits you from full hp which is normally impossible.

The Garbage system is garbage. You can't play a team mode without a team. Can't hard carry hell, teammates. Everyone knows if you Diamond/Plat, you either traded up for the wins or bottled your way to victory.

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Originally Posted by Xel

The Garbage system is garbage. You can't play a team mode without a team. Can't hard carry hell, teammates. Everyone knows if you Diamond/Plat, you either traded up for the wins or bottled your way to victory.

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@Nikoto

Your right. You need to be on something chemical to enjoy this mode.

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Originally Posted by Xel

Everyone knows if you Diamond/Plat, you either traded up for the wins or bottled your way to victory.

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who hurt you?

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Originally Posted by Sawamura

to be fair when people complain about rank system being unfair or broken or cheat. Is there any better rank system you have see in any game or real life with team lol?

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Touche....

As times increase, the fact this season's mode fails is ever more obvious.

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Originally Posted by Xel

As times increase, the fact this season's mode fails is ever more obvious.

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Fails how? Its not perfect and you get some bad matchmaking sometimes but you can still climb. I'm literally steamrolling people in the gold ranks. If you're good you'll climb eventually.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Fails how? Its not perfect and you get some bad matchmaking sometimes but you can still climb. I'm literally steamrolling people in the gold ranks. If you're good you'll climb eventually.

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Steamroll all you want, you won't go anywhere without the luck of drawing a team that isn't clueless.

My simple point was that it used to be an instant queue, then 10s, 20s, 30s, etc.

Time goes up as fewer folks bother playing. The mode is dying out faster than Season 2 and far faster than Season 1.

That happens because no one wants to play after hitting Diamond with a rare exception.

The squish of Unranked-Plat tries to disguise things, but the math doesn't lie.

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Originally Posted by Xel

Steamroll all you want, you won't go anywhere without the luck of drawing a team that isn't clueless.

My simple point was that it used to be an instant queue, then 10s, 20s, 30s, etc.

Time goes up as fewer folks bother playing. The mode is dying out faster than Season 2 and far faster than Season 1.

That happens because no one wants to play after hitting Diamond with a rare exception.

The squish of Unranked-Plat tries to disguise things, but the math doesn't lie.

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I mean, I've reached crystal both in season 1 and season 2. I'm taking season 3 pretty casually and I blew through bronze and silver. Took me maybe an hour to reach gold 2. If I played the amount I played in season 1 I'd probably be crystal already. If you're playing a lot of matches and not getting out of gold or plat then the problem is you. You're gonna get some streaks of bad matches and that's frustrating, but if you're actually good you'll climb.

I dunno how it is over on the crystal data center, but on aether the queues are still instant.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

I mean, I've reached crystal both in season 1 and season 2. I'm taking season 3 pretty casually and I blew through bronze and silver. Took me maybe an hour to reach gold 2. If I played the amount I played in season 1 I'd probably be crystal already. If you're playing a lot of matches and not getting out of gold or plat then the problem is you.

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What a bag of laughs you are.

If the problem were me, I wouldn't be able to streak to promotion multiple times in gold. It is a well-established fact that this isn't a skill-based mode. It is complete luck. You haven't claimed to be out of platinum proving my point. You won't get anywhere near it until the RNG allows it.

When you are the only gold with four bronze against a full 4xPlat+1Gold on the enemy side, it is over. All they do is focus you, the sole gold on your bronze-laden team, down.

Viola! Instant win for them because the rest of your team is shark bait.

Claiming "Skill" in a mode where you cannot make pre-made teams is a wonderful strawman. Too bad most of the player base knows this BS is a false flag operation. Show me the full bronze team you carried in your upcoming plat promotion match, and we'll talk about your amazing legendary skills then.

I have news for you. Gold players are not that good. I can run run around and go on 2v1s and even 3v1s quite easily and live and even get kills for it.

And no I'm not plat yet. I only jumped into pvp that one night last week. Got to gold 2 and haven't queued since. Just really haven't been that interested in ranked this tier. Between raid nights and playing other games I just haven't cared. If you really want me to prove it though I'll hop on sometime this week and easily get out of gold.

Ah, so no screenshot? Guess your just as "skilled" as all the other gold trapped by the Casino PVP mode.

Xel is my favorite forum user now

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Originally Posted by Xel

Ah, so no screenshot? Guess your just as "skilled" as all the other gold trapped by the Casino PVP mode.

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Satisfied?
https://i.imgur.com/F4eb56X.jpg

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Originally Posted by Xel

@Nikoto

Your right. You need to be on something chemical to enjoy this mode.

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you're right, i need more of that copium so i can pretend that CC is a perfect mode that has /nothing wrong with it/ and the top 100 players are /not cheaters or win traders/

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Satisfied?
https://i.imgur.com/F4eb56X.jpg

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i wonder how much rmt or wintrading you did to get there! bwahahhaha

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

i wonder how much rmt or wintrading you did to get there! bwahahhaha

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Or maybe you're just not as good as you think you are at pvp? You think I would stream me playing pvp if I was actively win trading? Like come on.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Or maybe you're just not as good as you think you are at pvp? You think I would stream me playing pvp if I was actively win trading? Like come on.

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do you honestly seriously want me to believe that you dont have viewers tryna que with you and you not using that to your advantage? Get out of here bro lmao.

Some of you people care about rank in such a half-assed mode a bit too much.
Anyway, ranking up is more about luck and perseverance than actual player skill if you ask me, some matches are an instant loss right out of the gate depending on team comps. And sometimes you get that player that you know is deadweight on your team, whilst the enemy gets your teammate from the last game who topped the scoreboard. I have actually gotten more win streaks on days when play I while half asleep than on days when I actually try to win, besides the matchmaking is fucking garbage right now, so I really don't understand how anyone can care about ranked right now.

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

do you honestly seriously want me to believe that you dont have viewers tryna que with you and you not using that to your advantage? Get out of here bro lmao.

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Ya that 1 viewer (me) is totally queue syncing with me * eye roll *

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Originally Posted by Dreadz

Some of you people care about rank in such a half-assed mode a bit too much.
Anyway, ranking up is more about luck and perseverance than actual player skill if you ask me, some matches are an instant loss right out of the gate depending on team comps. And sometimes you get that player that you know is deadweight on your team, whilst the enemy gets your teammate from the last game who topped the scoreboard. I have actually gotten more win streaks on days when play I while half asleep than on days when I actually try to win, besides the matchmaking is fucking garbage right now, so I really don't understand how anyone can care about ranked right now.

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i don't care bout ranked at all, i just find it funny how we got people here tryna defend such a obviously flawed system by saying 'oh you're just bad omega lul' instead of actually sitting down and maybe thinking about it some more.. maybe even have a conversation while not being a narrow minded idiot? Untill then; Unhealthy levels of persistence, win trading, cheating and luck is how all these people get all the way to crystal. I'll just sit over here with the silent majority and speak my mind saying "Ah they probably cheated, that rank does not mean anything."

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

i don't care bout ranked at all, i just find it funny how we got people here tryna defend such a obviously flawed system by saying 'oh you're just bad omega lul' instead of actually sitting down and maybe thinking about it some more.. maybe even have a conversation while not being a narrow minded idiot? Untill then; Unhealthy levels of persistence, win trading, cheating and luck is how all these people get all the way to crystal. I'll just sit over here with the silent majority and speak my mind saying "Ah they probably cheated, that rank does not mean anything."

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I never said it doesn't have problems. It absolutely has issues, but if you're good you will climb. Saying people cheated because they can consistently climb to crystal and you cant is just you being salty. Its not our fault you're not capable of carrying matches. You're gonna get bad matches sometimes, it happens and yes they absolutely need to make improvements to the matchmaking. Like at gold 1 I should not have been running into bronze players anymore. Its not fun to have them on my team and they probably don't appreciate getting rolled over by someone who is better than them, but blaming the system on being hard stuck is a you problem.

If you're even slightly above average you can climb to crystal. It might take you a bit longer than others but it is doable. Stop with the woe is me crap about being hard stuck. Either do the grind or accept the fact that you're just not good enough to work through the ranks.

There's also the simple fact of playing smart. I HATE the wind map and probably have the worst win rate there so I simply just don't queue when that map is rotation. I do extremely well on the volcano map and most of my wins come from that map because it fits my playstyle so I make sure to always queue during that map rotation. Pay attention to which maps you do well in consistent and run during that map rotation.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Ya that 1 viewer (me) is totally queue syncing with me * eye roll *

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damn you're streaming just to wintrade with that one viewer? oof guess that just proves my point that CC is dying and not all that interesting, why not go do some frontlines or savage raids? you might even get more viewers bwahhahaha!

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Originally Posted by Ransu

I never said it doesn't have problems. It absolutely has issues, but if you're good you will climb. Saying people cheated because they can consistently climb to crystal and you cant is just you being salty. Its not our fault you're not capable of carrying matches. You're gonna get bad matches sometimes, it happens and yes they absolutely need to make improvements to the matchmaking. Like at gold 1 I should not have been running into bronze players anymore. Its not fun to have them on my team and they probably don't appreciate getting rolled over by someone who is better than them, but blaming the system on being hard stuck is a you problem.

If you're even slightly above average you can climb to crystal. It might take you a bit longer than others but it is doable. Stop with the woe is me crap about being hard stuck. Either do the grind or accept the fact that you're just not good enough to work through the ranks.

There's also the simple fact of playing smart. I HATE the wind map and probably have the worst win rate there so I simply just don't queue when that map is rotation. I do extremely well on the volcano map and most of my wins come from that map because it fits my playstyle so I make sure to always queue during that map rotation. Pay attention to which maps you do well in consistent and run during that map rotation.

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nah im just keep pointing out the obvious and laugh at people who flaunt their ugly Crystal 100 plates because they are ugly as hell and mean nothing since they just got lucky... assuming that they did not win trade or cheat. keep calling me bad all you want if it makes you sleep at night, the fact i got slaughterhouse before 6.0 dropped proves you wrong :)

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

i don't care bout ranked at all, i just find it funny how we got people here tryna defend such a obviously flawed system by saying 'oh you're just bad omega lul' instead of actually sitting down and maybe thinking about it some more.. maybe even have a conversation while not being a narrow minded idiot? Untill then; Unhealthy levels of persistence, win trading, cheating and luck is how all these people get all the way to crystal. I'll just sit over here with the silent majority and speak my mind saying "Ah they probably cheated, that rank does not mean anything."

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I'll be honest with you, aside from maybe a few rare cheaters, I highly doubt even 3% of people who play CC are win trading, by the simple fact that you get absolutely nothing of value for hitting crystal or being top 100. In fact I have never even bothered to look up what you get for doing well in ranked, all I know is that you get an meh portrait.

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

nah im just keep pointing out the obvious and laugh at people who flaunt their ugly Crystal 100 plates because they are ugly as hell and mean nothing since they just got lucky... assuming that they did not win trade or cheat. keep calling me bad all you want if it makes you sleep at night, the fact i got slaughterhouse before 6.0 dropped proves you wrong :)

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So I just got lucky 3 seasons in a row? Lol you're hopeless dude.

And what exactly is the slaughterhouse comment supposed to prove? Congrats, you grinded frontlines for 1k kills....Literally anyone can get that title.

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Originally Posted by Towa-Musa

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

Wait a minute, I thought ranking in this game WASN'T doing a good job at filtering people based on skill, hence why we have complaints about "unskilled" people (like above argued) getting into ranks they "shouldn't" have the skill for?

Either ranking is an indicator of skill or it isn't. Which one is it? Can you please keep your gaslighting straight guys.

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Defo not. It's blatant at this point. Completely different. I managed to get to Plat in a few days in season 1 casually and this season of 8 hours straight, I'm still in Silver. Either the quality of players dipped very low or the good ones just stopped playing or both. There's no rewards playing this PVP other than the season rewards. I got them in a couple days and quit. It's just not worth the frustration. Just play COD or OW.

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Originally Posted by tsuchii

Defo not. It's blatant at this point. Completely different. I managed to get to Plat in a few days in season 1 casually and this season of 8 hours straight, I'm still in Silver. Either the quality of players dipped very low or the good ones just stopped playing or both. There's no rewards playing this PVP other than the season rewards. I got them in a couple days and quit. It's just not worth the frustration. Just play COD or OW.

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The problem was you couldn't de-rank, so people were just brute forcing their way to crystal. People were still getting hard stuck in certain tiers, but many who played enough could brute force their way to crystal if they were ok enough to stumble their way through, but then they would just forever be at crystal 0 which is where the problems started kicking in. Being able to drop down a tier now is preventing people from staying in blocks they normally would have fell out of if they lost more than won.

Its definitely not a great system, but de-ranking has made it more clear who can consistently maintain and who cant.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Satisfied?
https://i.imgur.com/F4eb56X.jpg

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I don’t………it needs a public win/loss ratio to see who is participating. Needs way more transparency other than pics. Can say I did 400 matches, won 100 times to get to crystal.