Please improve the collectors edition.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

Its hilarious how MSFT thinks it rules the planet. SE has a lot of clout as a company, MSFT has no respect because they're foreign...and MSFT thinks its the king of software. SE could probably eat MSFT for breakfast bahaha. Too bad AAPL is kicking MSFT's ass forwards and backwards. It needs to wake up and realize it was the king of software a good 10+ years ago...before windows vista came out in all of its crappy wonder.


EDIT: in case there's confusion, MSFT is Microsoft and AAPL is Apple. Ive been staring at stock symbols the past cpl day for hours, so my bad lol.

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I don't think Microsoft thinks it owns the world. I think it is a company, and it wants to do what it can to make profit, just like any other company. Apple is making a lot of profit, at the same time it is remaking what it always has and people keep buying it. You forget Apple is software and hardware, Microsoft is mainly software. Yeah, Apple is growing to be really really big, and already is, but it does a lot. Anyways who cares if it goes on Xbox, really? I was talking about the CE edition in general. I want it to be better.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I do think that SE should provide a little something extra for those of us who purchased the CE edition in 2010 and stayed with the game. Maybe an in-game item of some worth. Issuance could be linked to Legacy Membership

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That would be nice, something a bit extra for 2.0 users who bought 1.0 CE. Maybe even the item given to the 2.0 CE people. Good idea.

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

i bought the CE on September 23 2010 for $80.00, i know exactly what will happen when 2.0 comes out any disc pressed prior to 2.0 will be obsolete even our old CD keys may become invalid. it would be completely logical for SE to purge all old keys. for instance would you buy 2.0 for 50 bucks, or would you buy a 10 dollar copy of 1.0.

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It's a new client which we need to download off the lodestone page every 1.0 game sold would be put up in price you can still use the keycode i bet just can't use the CD or maybe they would make every company not sell the game but that be very hard to do.

@Daku_Naito
I'm sure they make a new CE for PC but we have to wait and see if that really going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

It's a new client which we need to download off the lodestone page every 1.0 game sold would be put up in price you can still use the keycode i bet just can't use the CD or maybe they would make every company not sell the game but that be very hard to do.

@Daku_Naito
I'm sure they make a new CE for PC but we have to wait and see if that really going to happen.

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Yeah most likely codes not activated before won't work. Codes activated will be fine. Yeah we will see the CE for PC, I hope they do us some good.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

SE could probably eat MSFT for breakfast bahaha.

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Oh lordy there is so much fanboy in that single sentence I feel my head is going to explode.

On topic: I want ps3 beta reaaaaaaaaaally soon.

As I recall the US one was that way because market research said no swag, ingame only for CE. I don't know how that went for sales but I assume the terribad ratings had more impact. Swag that relates to in game like say the Map is nice.

As far as the making of etc stuff, theres only a few production groups that have really found the way to do this for games. There are companies out there that do nothing but "making of" stuff for movies but there are many less that get games. Also where as the movie is pretty finalized before a DVD goes out. The game starts shipped and often with things cut at the last moment to be added in patches etc. So there's those last minute changes. I'm sure its fascinating film making to get it done right.

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Originally Posted by Phen

As I recall the US one was that way because market research said no swag, ingame only for CE. I don't know how that went for sales but I assume the terribad ratings had more impact. Swag that relates to in game like say the Map is nice.

As far as the making of etc stuff, theres only a few production groups that have really found the way to do this for games. There are companies out there that do nothing but "making of" stuff for movies but there are many less that get games. Also where as the movie is pretty finalized before a DVD goes out. The game starts shipped and often with things cut at the last moment to be added in patches etc. So there's those last minute changes. I'm sure its fascinating film making to get it done right.

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I might have to buy a CE over seas if it says no swag again.

If they give new limited edition items they better give us one to us without having to buy the game. All I'm sayin' >_>

I'd say we're already getting an "improved" CE. It's just called Legacy lol it's comes witha lifetime 9.99 a month price tag and a unique Chocobo mount. I'm pretty sure though that if they did make a CE out of 2.0 whatever is in it will be a given for those with Legacy status.

Though in order to have CE edition of something it has to be worthwhile to get, I mean it's harsh to say but rebranding this game and pushing it off as 2.0 doesn't really qualify itself to be given the status of CE. They could attempt to sell a CE of 2.0 but I highly doubt the sells would be good, they just need to focus on moving the product rather then offering 2 types of the product normal and CE.

As long as it's worth it's price i'll be happy with a new CE imo.

This reminds me, I never even got that adventurer certificate that was bundled in with the CE. I sent in for it a month after the game released and I never even got it. Tried contacting SE about it and got their usual "idunnowe'llinvestigate" spiel but nothing after that S:

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Originally Posted by Majidah

If they give new limited edition items they better give us one to us without having to buy the game. All I'm sayin' >_>

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That would never happen.

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Originally Posted by Airget

I'd say we're already getting an "improved" CE. It's just called Legacy lol it's comes witha lifetime 9.99 a month price tag and a unique Chocobo mount. I'm pretty sure though that if they did make a CE out of 2.0 whatever is in it will be a given for those with Legacy status.

Though in order to have CE edition of something it has to be worthwhile to get, I mean it's harsh to say but rebranding this game and pushing it off as 2.0 doesn't really qualify itself to be given the status of CE. They could attempt to sell a CE of 2.0 but I highly doubt the sells would be good, they just need to focus on moving the product rather then offering 2 types of the product normal and CE.

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I don't want them to make another CE for the people playing, and they wouldn't. They are giving us that stuff for sticking with them, that doesn't count for the people not playing at the moment, that is who the new CE is aimed for. And people like me of course.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Sincerely doubt that you will see X-Box360 anytime soon. SE tried negotiating with Microsoft early on but the talks died when Microsoft insisted on linking the game with their Gold Membership <in a typical Microsoft money grabbing move>. SE almost dropped them years ago when Microsoft tried the same thing with FFXi

I do think that SE should provide a little something extra for those of us who purchased the CE edition in 2010 and stayed with the game. Maybe an in-game item of some worth. Issuance could be linked to Legacy Membership

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Microsoft doesn't want any game passing though Silver Membership period. despite what you may think the issue is with the security of the platform. XI proved one fatal flaw in the XBL framework you could piggy back though Silver Memberships allowing you to play for free on the XBL platform.

the only thing i want to see added in the future purchase of my PC and/or the PS3 version is:
an artbook. or a figurine.
not of the game, but of our beautiful rep Rukkirii.
a signed picture perhaps?

anyway, no tin can anymore please.

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Originally Posted by Pharacelcus

the only thing i want to see added in the future purchase of my PC and/or the PS3 version is:
an artbook. or a figurine.
not of the game, but of our beautiful rep Rukkirii.
a signed picture perhaps?

anyway, no tin can anymore please.

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That would be a great CE. Signed and sealed with a kiss perhaps?

You guys are creepy. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Colino

You guys are creepy. Seriously.

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Its okay, they'd probably be scared if they met her (or any other women) in real life.

The only CE update I could see them doing is a package deal for the PS3. Which most PC owners will most likely buy that for the sake of having FFXIV on PS3 as well, myself included. So hopefully with the PS3 CE they can add some new and exciting Yoshi-P oriented future content plans, art, and goodies! P.S. Hi Daku

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Originally Posted by Colino

You guys are creepy. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

Its okay, they'd probably be scared if they met her (or any other women) in real life.

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the only thing i'd be scared of meeting is people with such a fantastic sense of humor shared by the both of you.
i mean, i can't even handle what kind of suave badasses you two are.

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

Its okay, they'd probably be scared if they met her (or any other women) in real life.

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Originally Posted by Colino

You guys are creepy. Seriously.

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Jokes people, jokes, ever heard of them? Kafeen, guys love girls with absolutely no sense of humor, you know that?

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Originally Posted by CaptainCook

The only CE update I could see them doing is a package deal for the PS3. Which most PC owners will most likely buy that for the sake of having FFXIV on PS3 as well, myself included. So hopefully with the PS3 CE they can add some new and exciting Yoshi-P oriented future content plans, art, and goodies! P.S. Hi Daku

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Hi Cook! Anyways, they will do one for both because there are still a lot of people yet to have the game for PC. I agree about the "Yoshi-P oriented future content plans, art, and goodies!"

:)

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Originally Posted by Daku_Naito

Jokes people, jokes, ever heard of them? Kafeen, guys love girls with absolutely no sense of humor, you know that?

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Yes, I like jokes but those two comments just sounded like you needed a restraining order against you both. Jokes like that may be funny between close friends but when you're talking about someone you don't know, its just creepy.

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

Yes, I like jokes but those two comments just sounded like you needed a restraining order against you both. Jokes like that may be funny between close friends but when you're talking about someone you don't know, its just creepy.

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Honestly, we were just saying she was pretty. We weren't planning ways to stalk her. It was a compliment and shouldn't be taken any other way.

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

Yes, I like jokes but those two comments just sounded like you needed a restraining order against you both. Jokes like that may be funny between close friends but when you're talking about someone you don't know, its just creepy.

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wow, someone is pretty = restraining order? where do you live? north korea?

it's a silly joke meant as a compliment that was a tad misplaced i guess or agree with to some point.
why do you feel so offended by it though?
there, there. i bet you're pretty too. happy now? :3

okay. i agree. we're horrible sexual deviants.
we should be shot for our lack of social interaction.
i'm gonna go outside and chase butterflies now~

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

Microsoft doesn't want any game passing though Silver Membership period. despite what you may think the issue is with the security of the platform. XI proved one fatal flaw in the XBL framework you could piggy back though Silver Memberships allowing you to play for free on the XBL platform.

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I based my comments upon the fact that I worked security at the Redmond campus for a number of years and made friends in the X-Box division. No mention of the problem you stated for FFXI ever came up. You may be right but I am unaware of it.

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

Microsoft doesn't want any game passing though Silver Membership period. despite what you may think the issue is with the security of the platform. XI proved one fatal flaw in the XBL framework you could piggy back though Silver Memberships allowing you to play for free on the XBL platform.

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That wasn't a flaw, that was intent. MS stated it at their own press conference that no additional fee's woudl be neccesary to play it.

The issue with XIV, is the interface and security SE currently uses. Since it would pass through their routing system, it must meet criteria that it currently does not. However that has changed and some rumors will be dispelled in 2013.

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Originally Posted by kazaran

That wasn't a flaw, that was intent. MS stated it at their own press conference that no additional fee's woudl be neccesary to play it.

The issue with XIV, is the interface and security SE currently uses. Since it would pass through their routing system, it must meet criteria that it currently does not. However that has changed and some rumors will be dispelled in 2013.

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Maybe in time it will come to xbox, but many people think the xbox players did nothing but bad for the FFXI community.

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Originally Posted by Daku_Naito

Maybe in time it will come to xbox, but many people think the xbox players did nothing but bad for the FFXI community.

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And what makes you think the ps3 community would do any better? I wouldn't mind the game being on both consoles... Actually I would LOVE to be able to play it on both consoles.

The collector's edition for FFXIII-2 was very well done in my opinion. If they could replicate it for FFXIV 2.0, or even have a separate one for Legacy members, it would be fantastic.

Stuff they could include would be:

FFXIV 2.0 + Legacy

• Art Journal (much like before, but bigger and with more variations in images)
• Artbook with concept art of both FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0
• Artwork of new areas and of cities (I would LOVE a large portrait of Limsa Lominsa)
• Cloth Map (of new Eorzea)
• Soundtrack covering new and old tracks, or a composer's selection
• Behind the scenes DVD (not the rubbish that was in the first one)
• Guildleve models/keychains
• Soft toys/sculptures (Moogles, chocobo, whatevs)
• Life-size wearable subligar

Legacy only

• Artwork of GC leaders with Dalamud in background
• Cloth with a GC symbol imprinted on it (only one, up to your choice)
• Collection of small job stones (a bit iffy on this one; if jobs still continue into 2.0, then may be part of 2.0 collection)
• T-shirt with Legacy symbol and caption on it

Of course, they don't have to include all I mentioned. Perhaps have the most expensive one contain everything in FFXIV 2.0, then other cheaper, but also worthwhile ones. Legacy edition SHOULD have everything -entitlement streak running through- but really, it's up to them.

An example selection of editions they could release would be:

Crystal Edition (most expensive, geared towards new/returning players who did not play Seventh Umbral Era storyline)

• Game with three pieces of special gear
• Art Journal
• Artbook with concept art of both FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0
• Artworks of new areas and of cities (Framed and HQ - have a selection of them)
• Cloth Maps (of new and old Eorzea)
• Soundtrack covering new and old tracks
• Behind the scenes DVD
• Soft toys/sculptures
• Guildleve models/keychains
• Life-size wearable subligar

Collector's Edition (geared towards new/returning players who just want an extra more to their game)

• Game with one piece of special gear
• Artbook with concept art of both FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0
• Cloth Map (of new Eorzea)
• Composer's Selection of tracks 1 (geared towards new Eorzea)
• Behind the scenes DVD
• Life-size wearable subligar

Legacy Edition (special edition geared towards old players who have stuck through 1.0; will miss out on some items of 2.0, but provide a balance of many materials of 1.0 and 2.0)

• Artwork of GC leaders with Dalamud in background
• Cloth with a GC symbol imprinted on it
• Collection of small job stones
• T-shirt with Legacy symbol and caption on it
• Artbook with concept art of both FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0
• Artwork of new areas and of cities (One, non-framed)
• Cloth Maps (of new and old Eorzea)
• Composer's Selection of tracks 2 (mix of new and old Eorzea)
• Behind the scenes DVD
• Guildleve models/keychains
• Life-size wearable subligar

The above is just a suggestion, but having a variation in items like above, with an appropriate cost, will be accepted and liked for their respective parties, I hope. Ultimately, if they do decide to make packages like this, it's up to them as to what goes in what. Please, SE, do something like this! I'll gladly give my money!

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Originally Posted by Colino

And what makes you think the ps3 community would do any better? I wouldn't mind the game being on both consoles... Actually I would LOVE to be able to play it on both consoles.

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I never said the PS3 community would be better. I also never said I agreed with what people said. But, I never heard of people complaining about PS2 players.

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Originally Posted by Daku_Naito

I never said the PS3 community would be better. I also never said I agreed with what people said. But, I never heard of people complaining about PS2 players.

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Word, I miscomprehended then. I didn't play enough XI to know how the console players where but I don't see anything wrong with 2.0 being on both systems.

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Originally Posted by Colino

Word, I miscomprehended then. I didn't play enough XI to know how the console players where but I don't see anything wrong with 2.0 being on both systems.

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Neither do I. I suspect most of the complains were just because of the influx of new people.

I'm fine with my CE but even though its not cloth you can always print out the map online...

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Originally Posted by Daku_Naito

I never said the PS3 community would be better. I also never said I agreed with what people said. But, I never heard of people complaining about PS2 players.

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The PS2 population outside of Japan was tiny compared to the PC population though.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

The collector's edition for FFXIII-2 was very well done in my opinion. If they could replicate it for FFXIV 2.0, or even have a separate one for Legacy members, it would be fantastic.

Stuff they could include would be:

FFXIV 2.0 + Legacy

• Art Journal (much like before, but bigger and with more variations in images)
• Artbook with concept art of both FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0
• Artwork of new areas and of cities (I would LOVE a large portrait of Limsa Lominsa)
• Cloth Map (of new Eorzea)
• Soundtrack covering new and old tracks, or a composer's selection
• Behind the scenes DVD (not the rubbish that was in the first one)
• Guildleve models/keychains
• Soft toys/sculptures (Moogles, chocobo, whatevs)
• Life-size wearable subligar

Legacy only

• Artwork of GC leaders with Dalamud in background
• Cloth with a GC symbol imprinted on it (only one, up to your choice)
• Collection of small job stones (a bit iffy on this one; if jobs still continue into 2.0, then may be part of 2.0 collection)
• T-shirt with Legacy symbol and caption on it

Of course, they don't have to include all I mentioned. Perhaps have the most expensive one contain everything in FFXIV 2.0, then other cheaper, but also worthwhile ones. Legacy edition SHOULD have everything -entitlement streak running through- but really, it's up to them.

An example selection of editions they could release would be:

Crystal Edition (most expensive, geared towards new/returning players who did not play Seventh Umbral Era storyline)

• Game with three pieces of special gear
• Art Journal
• Artbook with concept art of both FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0
• Artworks of new areas and of cities (Framed and HQ - have a selection of them)
• Cloth Maps (of new and old Eorzea)
• Soundtrack covering new and old tracks
• Behind the scenes DVD
• Soft toys/sculptures
• Guildleve models/keychains
• Life-size wearable subligar

Collector's Edition (geared towards new/returning players who just want an extra more to their game)

• Game with one piece of special gear
• Artbook with concept art of both FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0
• Cloth Map (of new Eorzea)
• Composer's Selection of tracks 1 (geared towards new Eorzea)
• Behind the scenes DVD
• Life-size wearable subligar

Legacy Edition (special edition geared towards old players who have stuck through 1.0; will miss out on some items of 2.0, but provide a balance of many materials of 1.0 and 2.0)

• Artwork of GC leaders with Dalamud in background
• Cloth with a GC symbol imprinted on it
• Collection of small job stones
• T-shirt with Legacy symbol and caption on it
• Artbook with concept art of both FFXIV 1.0 and 2.0
• Artwork of new areas and of cities (One, non-framed)
• Cloth Maps (of new and old Eorzea)
• Composer's Selection of tracks 2 (mix of new and old Eorzea)
• Behind the scenes DVD
• Guildleve models/keychains
• Life-size wearable subligar

The above is just a suggestion, but having a variation in items like above, with an appropriate cost, will be accepted and liked for their respective parties, I hope. Ultimately, if they do decide to make packages like this, it's up to them as to what goes in what. Please, SE, do something like this! I'll gladly give my money!

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Very ambitious concept. If we could get half of what you suggested I would be satisfied. As I suspect most of the packaging detail are probably in place by now. Any changes or additions from this point forward would be minor in scope. Hopefully we should know something no later then Aug.

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

The PS2 population outside of Japan was tiny compared to the PC population though.

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Yeah, that could have been it. But, I guess you never know.

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Originally Posted by kazaran

That wasn't a flaw, that was intent. MS stated it at their own press conference that no additional fee's woudl be neccesary to play it.

The issue with XIV, is the interface and security SE currently uses. Since it would pass through their routing system, it must meet criteria that it currently does not. However that has changed and some rumors will be dispelled in 2013.

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Loosing Revenue generated by those who passed through Microsoft's Data & handling servers was intended? i think not. What the FFXI client did was completely pass through Microsoft's Data Handling Severs, nothing touched the Microsoft servers it was a strait shot, Xbox FFXI Client to SE's Servers. this was not intended and was later rectified. they do not want SE doing the same thing again.

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

Loosing Revenue generated by those who passed through Microsoft's Data & handling servers was intended? i think not. What the FFXI client did was completely pass through Microsoft's Data Handling Severs, nothing touched the Microsoft servers it was a strait shot, Xbox FFXI Client to SE's Servers. this was not intended and was later rectified. they do not want SE doing the same thing again.

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What was not intended, for people to be able to play FFXI without having gold membership?

The North American Collector's Edition really was a fail.

I sent in for my 'adventurer's certificate' and it never came. I'm not even sure who I would follow up with about it at this point.

From a money standpoint, I don't think they should have a physical 2.0 Collector's Edition.

Unless some wealthy person donated the cost of assembling said 2.0 CE.

Electronic perks and such, seems like those would be easier to implement.

Moogle-faced Subligar, Chocolina Costumes for both genders, and Shake Weight accessories that reduce Brink of Death duration.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

The North American Collector's Edition really was a fail.

I sent in for my 'adventurer's certificate' and it never came. I'm not even sure who I would follow up with about it at this point.

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I remember filling that stuff out also............... whatever happened to that one? LOL
wasn't it supposed to have signature from Tanaka or something? I would be so damn happy if it had both Tanaka (pre-team change) & YoshiP signature... lol