No Update for Character Creator / Cuztomization?..

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

No, it really wasn't a meme or joke...you're just trying to save face after your comically sexist misandrist remark.

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I didn't make that post though?

I wish some people would learn to read before jumping the gun.

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Originally Posted by AlyaNimfa

It's a meme. A joke.

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I wasn't kidding

imagine playing a male character when cat girls and lizard girls are a thing

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

Which people do. Where are you getting at?

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That poor poster has yet to realize who truly rules over the game and needs to get with the program and kneel before their fujoshi mistresses. :^)

Signed. It'd also be nice if the male characters didn't look so utterly flatpack-ish, in the way Overwatch managed to avoid. For now I'm happy we're going to see graphics upgrades, but for the longer term, I'd like to see this happen too. Also hope we see the ability to modify muscle tone on more races, rather than just limited to roes and hyur.

graphic update in several steps starting with 7.0 and femhroth the last new race/gender. (probably also 7.0) then they said something about several updates about glamour beyond 6.1.

more options in character creation kinda goes in a similar direction. its all about the looks. but because all these things are first i wouldnt hope for it before 8.0. it would make sense to first finish the races before giving more options to all if them.... IF they ever gonna do it

Would be nice to see new Au Ra horn styles and new Hrothgar faces (and hairs).

I think they are slammed with work at the moment. This is the 35th anniversary for Squeenix so they have their staff divided on a lot of projects. I think we will see an update to the character creator but only once they are done with updating the player characters (graphics overhaul) at the very least. Maybe in 2 1/2 - 3 years.

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Originally Posted by AlyaNimfa

Hyur need serious help. I hate playing catgirls, but they have the best customisations.
Hyur need animation fixes (especially for that weird run)

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You can take my princess run from my cold, dead hands. It separates the strong from the cat girls.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

Also hope we see the ability to modify muscle tone on more races, rather than just limited to roes and hyur.

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The way the game works, races that don’t get a tail/ear slider get muscle tone slider instead. This update won’t affect character creator so the only hope of other races getting muscle sliders is if their ear and tail sliders were removed and everyone of those races had a default setting. They said way back that due to how character data is loaded onto the server, adding extra features to character creator would mean cutting the amount of characters you can view on the screen.

I rly fail to see the issue with the Midlander run, if you don't like it you can play Highlander.
It's not like this is the only run in the game, why shouldn't people who like it also have an option?
Should the Highlander run be changed because people who like the Midlander one might dislike it and prefer the Midlander one?

I just dunno why people who dislike it supposedly have a '' more important opinion '' than those who like what it already is.

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

Would be nice to see new Au Ra horn styles and new Hrothgar faces (and hairs).

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And also untie the horns to the face structure.

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Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

But sliders are impossible without effectively re-doing the entire gear system of the game itself, which in turn would require an engine overhaul. Which at that point, they'd just more likely to spend that time making the next FF MMO.

Characters in FF14 are effectively legos - there is no 'body' beneath your gear that your items warp around, the gear is your body. Like replacing a leg arm with a different lego arm, equipping a new piece of gear completely replaces that entire section of your character. This also means any visible skin on gear is built into the 3D model itself.

This means that butt sliders (and currently breast sliders) are useless, as they would only effect your smallclothes/emperor's gear and nothing else. Since every other piece of gear in the game overrides your slider choice with the model itself. This is why armor makes you effectively flat at 100%, and why Minfillia's gear gives you a great chest even at 0% on the slider: it's the actual model overriding it. You can even see this for the butt side of things with the 2B pants: They are intentionally sculpted to have a bigger butt, thus it only appears when you equip them.

For a butt slider to actually 'work' in FF14, they'd effectively have to create multiple copies of the same leg gear at different sculpts for each of the different races, then assign each once you hit a certain % on the slider. Which when you consider how long it takes them to do any retroactive gear update in FF14 (headpieces for Hroth/Viera, unlocking gender lock stuff, etc) is effectively impossible. This also ignores the other issue of having to make several new sculpts of body gear as well, since bigger butts would invariably clip through skirts/tops that are assuming the butt is at default size.

TL DR: Butt sliders are impossible with how their 3D model engine is set up. You'll have to turn to the dark forces of 3rd party if you want something like that.

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This was actually broken down and explained really well. It completely makes sense now. :(

Just show support in those types of threads- you won't see anything until the megathreads related to character creator updates have 500+ posts

even if you just type "+1 for more hairstyles" that is support- it's the posts that matter in the thread, not the views

Here is a Megathread for hairstyles & other updates
It has over 39,707 VIEWS- just imagine if half of that were posts, we would have seen more of the things we want by now.
Just show support in these threads PLEASE or we will never see the changes we want- it's likely the XIV dev team does not look at NA/ EU threads unless it has over 500-1000 posts.
---> https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...es-Facial-Hair <----

Bumpy mcbumperson, sliders for butt thigh boobs, as well as customizable faces/horn combo for au ra. Id like the round face with backwards horns personally.

Pretty sure they did mention character customization was going to be looked into in the "Future," aka who the fuck knows when... but yeah its somewhere on the do to list at least...

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Originally Posted by T-Vo

sliders for butt thigh boobs

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Hell no. Keep the ERP abominations in their mod containment zone.

Bumping this. With the release of awesome character creators like Dragon's Dogma 2, Baldur's Gate 3, etc., they really need to update the character creator to remain competitive. To be fair, I don't expect the updated character creator to be as in depth as Dragon's Dogma 2, which allows you to create pretty much anyone you would like to create. But they really need to add more options for every race. People have been requesting more facial hair options for years. The character model for Clive in the XVI crossover event looks great. It would be nice to have the options to create characters you see in the game that aren't tied to the same face. Let players have more creative control by adding more hair, face, and even different body size options.

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Originally Posted by RikkCavalier

Bumping this. With the release of awesome character creators like Dragon's Dogma 2, Baldur's Gate 3, etc., they really need to update the character creator to remain competitive. To be fair, I don't expect the updated character creator to be as in depth as Dragon's Dogma 2, which allows you to create pretty much anyone you would like to create. But they really need to add more options for every race. People have been requesting more facial hair options for years. The character model for Clive in the XVI crossover event looks great. It would be nice to have the options to create characters you see in the game that aren't tied to the same face. Let players have more creative control by adding more hair, face, and even different body size options.

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Sorry, this is ffxiv, where any cool, attractive &/or unique features are reserved strictly for NPC's

Clive's hair is abit over the top as SE is want to do when designing characters- his hair looks like Mel Gibsons from Lethal weapon lol; but we should have gotten it still (maybe in the future) but I'd also want Jill Warricks hair, even if it's made shorter. I'm really over XIV team shelving almost all of their female characters when they do a collab.
Like, Where is Garnets hair & outfit? Terra? Ashelia? Rikku? Rinoa? Aerith & Tifa? Then there's more female characters from other FF titles where we have only the male protag outfit.
I've been asking for (and many others) Hilda's hair and other hairs for years. Yoshi-P himself said he'd add it if people asked for it.

The lack of long hair variety is really frustrating
The lack of full beards and different types of stubble; highlander eyebrows
Older faces & new faces for each race
Jawlines (bc most characters lack an actual jawline & just have dorito anime face)
Wearing more than 1 facepaint at a time- I'd like to stack my face paints by wearing blush AND eyeshadow.
Non-gloss lipstick (why is it only gloss? its not 2005 anymore)
Au Ra with interchangeable horns
Half-elezen
Garlean 3rd eye
etc

Maybe I'm coming off to harsh but it's no secret that the character customization in this game needs an update.
We'll have to see if it ever happens

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Originally Posted by Minthe

I'll be honest, I was pretty disappointed when Yoshi-P didn't address anything cosmetic related for FFXIV. BE ADVISED, I am not undermining the Graphics Update. This is huge and we have needed it for a long time and I'm so happy they're doing this.

A few people did warn that the fan base has been asking for character creator updates and NPC hairstyles, longer hairstyles, etc for a long time. I don't really understand why they're avoiding this when so many people have been asking and for years? Will they talk about it in a later live letter maybe?

As mentioned in past posts, updating their dye system wouldn't hurt either but I've also heard that might not be possible with their engine or whatever they use to run the mmorpg. But, I've been playing the heck out of Lost Ark lately and THEIR DYE SYSTEM IS SO BEAUTIFUL. I live for being able to dye almost every part of an outfit. That's one thing I loved about Guild Wars 2.

I would love to see:

• Horns separated from Aura faces. (This has been widely asked for many times)
• Hair styles separated from Hrothgar faces. (This is new but a fair request)
• Longer hairstyles. (The megathread has many wonderful ideas and requests)
• More NPC Hairstyles. (Also been asked by a lot of people for years, included in the megathread)
• More beard options!
• Change eyebrow color separate from hair color
• Adding more Hair/Skin/Dye colors. (They have already added some dye colors so I'm hoping they will add more in the future)
• Dye outfits in sections completely
• Butt sliders would be a great plus

I love this game, and I love how much work the devs and the team put into creating this game.. but the fact he talked about the next 10 years and didn't even graze anything about improving the customization of the game was a little disappointing. I understand these posts are very repetitive but our pleas are not being answered T_T

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You paid 40 usd for a "huge" patch drop that consists of repeat the same formula (Extended MSQ + a few trials+dungeons+one new job+a few zones) etc.

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Originally Posted by RikkCavalier

With the release of awesome character creators like Dragon's Dogma 2, Baldur's Gate 3, etc.

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I bought Baldur's Gate and I am unimpressed with the character creator options. Many of the hairstyles are unappealing, face shapes are fully preset even if you have a few choices, all races get the same nine scar options and pathetically small range of earrings... plus the interface is horrible and glamour is non-existent so you have to wear whatever ugly thing is best for stats.

Still waiting for weight sliders

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I bought Baldur's Gate and I am unimpressed with the character creator options. Many of the hairstyles are unappealing, face shapes are fully preset even if you have a few choices, all races get the same nine scar options and pathetically small range of earrings... plus the interface is horrible and glamour is non-existent so you have to wear whatever ugly thing is best for stats.

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I agree; BG3 character creator is very underwhelming and I've had to resort to mods just to get the character how I want.
Now Dragons Dogma is much better, the userface is a tad clunky and there are still some things left to be desired (like long hairs and jewelry) buuuut I'd take DD2 character creator over BG3 hands down.

SE really needs to add more options to all races. Now is the time to do it to coincide with the graphical update. If they don't do it now, it's hard to say when it will be done, if ever. :-(

From what I've heard there is some kind of plan to overhaul the Character Creator system but that is apparently after the Dye and Graphics overhaul that they're doing with Dawntrail are fully finished, so maybe by 9.0 or 10.0 we could maybe see something be done about it? That's assuming the rumor is even true but I have no idea about that stuff myself since I can't read Japanese.

he said they will look into it after the graphical update. that means not before 8.0 and it also means its not sure they actually will do something. but at least its in the back of their heads

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Originally Posted by Asari5

he said they will look into it after the graphical update. that means not before 8.0 and it also means its not sure they actually will do something. but at least its in the back of their heads

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Yeah 7.0 is done for any sort of changes to content at this point (outside of fixing the benchmark issues I believe). If we're getting customization overhauls it'll be 8.0 at the earliest.