Market Board and Inn in Radz-at-Han

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Originally Posted by Avatre

It's more like nightmares until we wake in the inn room, am I right?

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You do still find sandwiches that one time in Shadowbringers...

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Originally Posted by Jybril

I found it very odd it doesn't have a market board myself.
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If I am honest I did too. Seems the first big city after the first dungeon on a game had it I thought. It shocked me it was so light there. Esp with a crafting area but no marketboard? Kind of a small handicap to crafting.

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Originally Posted by Serenitey

If I am honest I did too. Seems the first big city after the first dungeon on a game had it I thought. It shocked me it was so light there. Esp with a crafting area but no marketboard? Kind of a small handicap to crafting.

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Mor Dhona, no board.
Iddylshire, no board.
Rhalgr's Reach, no board.
Eulmore, no board.

What do all of these have in common? Collectables appraisers are found in each.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Mor Dhona, no board.
Iddylshire, no board.
Rhalgr's Reach, no board.
Eulmore, no board.

What do all of these have in common? Collectables appraisers are found in each.

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mor'dhona isnt really a town, iddlyshire also not really a town, nor is rhalgr reach.


in stormblood it would be ala migo that needs the marketboard. Heavenward didn't have a 2nd town...

Eulmore hated your guts during the story (for most of it) so it made sense + it was basicly sin city

this time it makes no sense what so ever because lore wise radz-at-han is a merchent story that respects us MORE THAN SHARLYAN does during the story until the very end.

While Radz-at-Han makes more sense as "the market town" theoretically, I think it's the other way around for practical/visual setup reasons.

The marketboard only takes up a small amount of space (the board itself and a retainer advocate stall, and eventually a "Rowena's representative" standing in a corner somewhere) while the endgame tome sellers require at least four NPCs selling or trading for different aspects of the endgame gearing process. This suits filling up Radz-at-Han's sprawling bazaar with functioning stalls.

For some reason the devs don't like putting market boards in a lot of areas.

I believe the point is also to push players to congregate in less areas for server usage purposes, and to reduce potential loopholes like RMT stuff.

It's also why you'll notice the mog mail is so far away from markets.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

I believe the point is also to push players to congregate in less areas for server usage purposes, and to reduce potential loopholes like RMT stuff.

It's also why you'll notice the mog mail is so far away from markets.

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-looks at limsa- ya that doesn't work at all because its just shoving everyone into limsa so if thats the point they have is failing horribly then. more marketboards would prevent that issue

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The splendors vendors are both tomestone vendors and raid token vendors.

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They are not current Tomestone vendors as in Radz-at-Han. I am strictly speaking of current.
There is no Inn, etc. All cities should have every current amenity.

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Originally Posted by Merrnryn

They are not current Tomestone vendors as in Radz-at-Han. I am strictly speaking of current.
There is no Inn, etc. All cities should have every current amenity.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

I just wish the splendors vendor near the main city aetheryte wouldn't have to wait until the expansion is no longer current. Just put out a splendors vendor next to the Sharlayan aetheryte already. The splendors vendors have much easier to use menus than the endgame counter NPCs have.

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Gameplay reasons countering logic and lore is poor sense. Besides they got it backwards. Sharlaya the isolationists that strive to hoard knowledge and artifacts gets a market board but no collectables amd splendors? The merchant Capitol of the world that exports far more than it takes in, doesn't get a market and hands out scrips. Makes no sense here. Sharlaya doesn't even get its own teleport tab, Sharlaya is tucked into other with mor donuts!
Considering you don't even get to explore the island of Sharlaya (Lab is an artificial cave under the dang city) it seems silly they were considered a Capitol and not a outpost.

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

-looks at limsa- ya that doesn't work at all because its just shoving everyone into limsa so if thats the point they have is failing horribly then. more marketboards would prevent that issue

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Limsa is precisely why they -don't- design future cities that way. It's cluttered and in recent days I've been entirely unable to even load into Limsa due to congestion in the area.

On topic: Personally I'm not sure why they don't just make the marketboard accessible from anywhere in the world (a la Guildwars), but make actual pickup of purchases at the market area (or retainers?)

I guess some don't realize they use teleport costs to control the inflation of gil in the game, so that's one reason. Second, keeping traffic lower by splitting off things is better.

Also for SHb things like the weapons gear is in Mor Dhona because those don't take place in The First. Whereas the other trials did.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Limsa is precisely why they -don't- design future cities that way. It's cluttered and in recent days I've been entirely unable to even load into Limsa due to congestion in the area.

On topic: Personally I'm not sure why they don't just make the marketboard accessible from anywhere in the world (a la Guildwars), but make actual pickup of purchases at the market area (or retainers?)

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Is the tax system thing still in place? I recall it used to matter what city you bought from or posted in (I think tied to your retainer and where they were hired?)

Honestly I wouldn't mind scrapping all of that and just streamlining the mb and adding more mb purchase locations.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Is the tax system thing still in place? I recall it used to matter what city you bought from or posted in (I think tied to your retainer and where they were hired?)

Honestly I wouldn't mind scrapping all of that and just streamlining the mb and adding more mb purchase locations.

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There is still a tax system but that's also..weird. The whole market system in FFXIV is weird to be honest. But yes- the tax is related to where the retainer is "stationed".

The Guildwars 2 market system is just so much better..not sure why FFXIV did it the way they did.

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Originally Posted by Jennah

The only thing I find weird is that thematically, it really ought to be Sharlayan with the new, rare researched top-of-the-line tomestone gear; and Radz-at-Han with the bustling marketboard.

I *GUESS* it makes more sense that Rowena would set up in Thavnair, at least.

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Rowena is actually from Thavnair and get's her supplies from Thavnair. What I find odd is that the tombstone vendors in Thavnair have nothing to do with Rowena which suggest that a higher powered merchant than Rowena operates in Thavnair.

Yeah, it should probably have a MB there too. It just makes sense. Maybe further back in the market area. People will still use Limsa and Sharlayan because of the MB's close proximity anyway.

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Originally Posted by Merrnryn

Sharlayan should have tomestone vendors as well.

I find it extremely odd the isolationist nation has a world market board and an Inn. Yet the trade hub of the world Radz-at-Han has neither, but has Tomestones.

I would like to see both cities with both.
Same for Crystarium and Eulmore.

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Yes, there's the Rp reason you mention, and there's another one that allows you not to overload Old Sharlayan, because people will surely come crying that it's the lag capital.

That's why the Tombstone and Marketboard vendors are shared between the two capitals, so that the burden can be shared. This is popular MMO common sense.

The only thing I find missing is the FC chest.

It probably has something to do with diverting population around as online games tend to do. If everything were conveniently in one little spot there would be an insane amount of congestion, so they purposely put more important things in different directions / locations.

One of my hope and wish for this expansion is we no longer have House of Splendor for our gear and Gerolt for our relic. The first obviously has been disappointed, and I doubt the 2nd will change. No thing against the two but they're pretty much just meme at this point.

Most of the MMO will introduce a new faction to give the new gears some kind of lore. It's probably one of the most un-creative part of FF14.

I pretty much agree with op. Especially since radz-at-han is somewhere in the middle of nowhere, because otherwise I can't explain the astronomical cost for teleports to the city with MB and an inn.
Also the stupidest placement for materia melder npc.
The worst endgame hub imo. Eulmore was much much better

I mean…they’d not going to deviate from the pattern. That’s not how FFXIV works. This game sticks to a strict script for its content. People really expected a market board in the tomestone area? Sure lorewise it’s a marketplace but gameplay has always and will always trump lore.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

You've left out that all the old expansions' Main City aetherytes have a simplified tomestone vendor next to them.

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YOU have left out that this is only for case for old content, and was a 5.3 change.

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

mor'dhona isnt really a town, iddlyshire also not really a town, nor is rhalgr reach.


in stormblood it would be ala migo that needs the marketboard. Heavenward didn't have a 2nd town...

Eulmore hated your guts during the story (for most of it) so it made sense + it was basicly sin city

this time it makes no sense what so ever because lore wise radz-at-han is a merchent story that respects us MORE THAN SHARLYAN does during the story until the very end.

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This right here. ^ So well said it needs nothing added.

Its a gameplay reason not a lore reason. If you put everything in one city, players abandon the rest and the game world looks empty.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

One of my hope and wish for this expansion is we no longer have House of Splendor for our gear and Gerolt for our relic. The first obviously has been disappointed, and I doubt the 2nd will change. No thing against the two but they're pretty much just meme at this point.

Most of the MMO will introduce a new faction to give the new gears some kind of lore. It's probably one of the most un-creative part of FF14.

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I'd be very upset if they removed Gerolt from this. The running gag of him being enslaved to Rowena but also secretly loving it (both ways) is pretty great. I hope they get married one day. I think you misunderstand the creative part here. Other games will throw random things together and that is really easy to do. I can come up with new lore in a matter of seconds just like anyone else but to build from existing lore, that is different and powerful. You're really going to tell us that the writers of Final Fantasy XIV has poor creative vision? Really?

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Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis

I'd be very upset if they removed Gerolt from this. The running gag of him being enslaved to Rowena but also secretly loving it (both ways) is pretty great. I hope they get married one day. I think you misunderstand the creative part here. Other games will throw random things together and that is really easy to do. I can come up with new lore in a matter of seconds just like anyone else but to build from existing lore, that is different and powerful. You're really going to tell us that the writers of Final Fantasy XIV has poor creative vision? Really?

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How exactly creating faction with back story tied to the expack "random"? What other MMO you played that do this, please let me know so I can avoid it.

And ever since 3.0 we had stopped receiving any kind of explanation about what the new tome are, all we know is each patch cycle we get a new color of tome to collect with like ... minimum context behind it. If you call that creative, I would question where you standard is. Each expansion pack you're given a handful of line where the new Rowena girls basically "oh hey we're setting up shop here come do business!" with the same tired old memes 10 years straight, yes I would call that poor creative vision.

I mean, we went to the first in 5.0 where the Allagn does not even exist, yet we still somehow collect their tomes. Yo, that's not even poor creative vision, just straight up laziness. :(


The story between Gerolt and Rowena is nice but we already knew about it since like what, 6-7 years ago. At this point it's the same old thing dragging out ala Naruto 999th episode. So yes, I would call it uncreative.

If there was an inn and marketboard in Hadz, there would be no reason to go to Sharlyan regularly besides for story or if you personally like the place. Since tomes are at Hadz, if there was a marketboard and inn, almost everyone would be there all the time. I agree it's probably to help with server congestion and make the cities look more lively

Sharlayan was originally intended to be one of the starting cities in 1.0. While it would make way more sense to reverse Sharlayan and Radz functions, especially considering the role Sharlayan is playing in the normal raid story as another point, I understand why they did what they did. Doesn't make me like it though. By all accounts it makes way more sense for the world trade hub to be the one with the market board as well as an inn for traveling merchants, while the smart people city that plays a role in the normal raids would deal in highly advanced battle gear.