Endwalker's Hinted Mystery? What could it be that leads us into the new story?

Oh and i haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but i had a WTF moment at the end of the duel with Venat... she uses armiger on us... she only has 3-4 weapons but it is clearly armiger. And being the former Azem, i would think the current one we are a sundered form of should have this power buried down somewhere as well. So i predict in some fight in the distant future, we will have this power. And the more classes we have played and leveled up the more power we will have. Should be an epic moment when it happens.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

Corvos will be the backdrop for either the Island Paradise, the still-unknown trial trilogy or relic weapon story, or possibly tied to Pandaemonium or an unmentioned Garlean Restoration. It's been brought up too much to not be a thing, but having no real details means it's probably not going to be something central to much.

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Or the thing with Vritra and Esinien will be the side trial, idk if they gonna use the last dragon now already... though its interesting that its confirmed being basically vanished lol

I don't think we will traveler the universe to other locations, meeting alien civilizations etc.

Even if you don't believe Meteion and her words about the universe' destiny, we sure can trust and remember what Midgar-daddydragon said: that Etheirys is the last bastion of Hope, so the last place to have yet life.

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Originally Posted by Blindheart

What is up with Cocoon just floating out there all nonchalantly out in Ultima Thule? Anyone who has played through Final Fantasy 13 and 13-2 should know how that ended. It fits right in with Meteion’s all worlds are dead theme... and Lightning has popped up in game “training” so all sorts of crazy can happen. Etro is the next logical step in this game. She is literally a gateway of death or a death god... i fully expect her to pop up now. Final Fantasy 14 is a sandbox game, and they have yet to fully utilize the 13 series and Fabula Nova Crystallis Lore.

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Crystallized Cocoon being in the background of Ultima Thule has no connection to FFXIV though, it's just a reference to a past FF game for window dressing (if you look closely, the Planet's Core/Imprisoned Holy from FFVII and the assimilation of Gaia and Terra from FFIX also appear in the background in the same way, so it's nothing more than just more fanservice referencing to past FF games that have no actual connection to FFXIV's plot. It's already been well established that each FF game is it's own unique universe independent from FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Blindheart

Oh and i haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but i had a WTF moment at the end of the duel with Venat... she uses armiger on us... she only has 3-4 weapons but it is clearly armiger. And being the former Azem, i would think the current one we are a sundered form of should have this power buried down somewhere as well. So i predict in some fight in the distant future, we will have this power. And the more classes we have played and leveled up the more power we will have. Should be an epic moment when it happens.

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Venat just switches Jobs from PLD to DNC and WHM (the same Jobs she has access to as a Trust in the Ktisis Hyperboriea) - the same distinctive sound effect that occurs when a player character changes class/Job even accompanies her class changing. So she's just using the Armoury System - NPCs have already shown to be able to change class mid-fight in the past where as players cannot for simple pragmatic gameplay reasons. So again it's easily explained in-universe and lore and gameplay correct for FFXIV, and not reflective of any external connection to another FF game.

Emet-Selch mentions a few things. First, the ruins beneath the Bounty - This is practically right next to Thavnair, and Estinien is still just waiting for Vrtra's summons. I would guess this will be the 5.1 dungeon. Next, "the treasure islands beyond the frozen waters of Blindfrost". Sounds interesting, but not very substantive. I'd guess this might be future dungeon content, or field content, or even treasure dungeon content. Then there's the New World and the South Sea isles. The former is clearly expansion-worthy in it's own right, while the latter could easily segue into a Meracydia expansion, which he mentions next as well. The Twelve, well we know that's up next for the alliance raids. Lastly is other civilizations on the shards, which I presume will be content farther into the future after the Source has been more thoroughly fleshed out.

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Originally Posted by iheartlove42

But be aware those Omicrons are just memories from Meteion. They aren't real. The Omicrons are extinct.

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I'm of the opposite mind. After all, right after Y'shtola and Urianger opened the path to omicrons, Meteion said:

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Originally Posted by Erendis

I'm of the opposite mind. After all, right after Y'shtola and Urianger opened the path to omicrons, Meteion said:

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Would this then mean that the Ea, Dragons and Omicrons in Ultima Thule are beings composed of pure Dynamis now? This is considering that their physical forms were only created as a result of Thancred's wish for the scions to live causing Ultima Thule to become a tangible and real place.

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Originally Posted by Kordarion

Would this then mean that the Ea, Dragons and Omicrons in Ultima Thule are beings composed of pure Dynamis now? This is considering that their physical forms were only created as a result of Thancred's wish for the scions to live causing Ultima Thule to become a tangible and real place.

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A tangible and real place made of aether, or at least containing it. Since y’shtola can see there. Which I think is more evidence that dynamis and aether can convert into one another.

Thancred’s “Survive.” may have achieved more than we knew. And now it’s all being sustained independently by hope. I think the people in Ultima Thule are essentially real boys now. And there are hints in each area’ quests that they’re regaining a little bit of hope that life might be worth living after we’re done with them.

The fact that Alpha was able to gain a soul despite being a creation of Omega and by extension, the Omicrons makes me think the Stigma 4's cultural salvage operation might be able to truly revive the lost civilizations.

I am curious if the place is going to be a proper daily hub or just something akin to Mor Dhona/Idyllshire that gradually develops on its own as the patch cycle goes along without being connected to any kind of content.

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Originally Posted by Kordarion

Would this then mean that the Ea, Dragons and Omicrons in Ultima Thule are beings composed of pure Dynamis now? This is considering that their physical forms were only created as a result of Thancred's wish for the scions to live causing Ultima Thule to become a tangible and real place.

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A theory/explanation that I saw elsewhere was that the Scions' sacrifices added aether to what was previously a pure dynamis space, and at the end when Emet and Hyth work their magic to reinforce the aether and release the Scions from being necessary to hold it together, that has now made the various "dynamis ghosts" into physical aether-based beings.

That sounds very logical to me and would mean that after being trapped as a frozen memory of despair all this time, they are suddenly independent beings able to act and think for themselves.

We'll probably go to the void/13th shard, led by Zenos's voidsent that Yoshi P heavily hinted at and we haven't killed. I bet the void and dynamis are connected because almost every single blasphemy has the same model as a voidsent. I wouldn't be surprised if Zenos's voidsent kept him alive, or at least his body, and it will play a role in starting the new Void arc. Since Zenos can't actually die through natural means, I'm sure he'll play an interesting role too. There are void rifts in the sky in Ultima Thule, so...

Or we go to Meracydia and the void story starts there.

The existence of the "Void Quests" at the Crystarium seems to make it unlikely, or at least difficult for plot integration, to have the MSQ also deal with the void. As much as they haven't really made any progress, it feels like setting the stage for a later continuation – assuming it didn't just get dropped due to COVID – but even then it could get picked up again later.

And it has such a long shopping list of prerequisites: all the role quests, and the capstone, and all the Warring Triad and the associated extreme trials (including the need to beat Bismarck and Ravana to continue those quests, as simple as that is to do unsynched). It was even speculated by fans that they might plan to integrate the Eden quests in future.

I'd kinda prefer to have a more "grounded" expansion next that's a return to our roots with a journey to lands largely unknown, be it Meracydia, the New World, or elsewhere on the Source; with the only thing guiding us there being a vague portent of coming danger.

I feel like the former probably has the most potential lead-ins between Tiamat returning there after millenia and Vtra being able to keep us on speed dial with his siblings. Riol also mentions he was planning to go there, so I think there's a reasonable chance he'll come across some unsettling developments that might warrant attention from the Scions.

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Originally Posted by Erendis

I'm of the opposite mind. After all, right after Y'shtola and Urianger opened the path to omicrons, Meteion said:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...92/unknown.png

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The wild thing about the Omicrons in Ultima Thule compared to the other species is that through a weirdly roundabout way Meteion did make, by all meaningful metrics, Real Omicrons.

The dragons and (especially) Ea we know just straight-up don't work like real dragons and Ea; they're essentially trapped souls in artificial simulacra bodies, that do a decent job of appearing to be the real thing but aren't organic, natural forms. But the Omicrons... well, they're already not organic, natural forms. So what's the difference between an Ultima Thule Omicron, an Omicron from the Omicron homeworld, and an Omicron made with materials from one of their invaded planets? What makes one genuine and another not? If you were to devise a test to determine a 'genuine' member of a species, it's very possible that Ultima Thule's dragons or Ea would fail. But the Omicrons might succeed, by virtue of them failing in exactly the same ways as the 'real' ones.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The existence of the "Void Quests" at the Crystarium seems to make it unlikely, or at least difficult for plot integration, to have the MSQ also deal with the void. As much as they haven't really made any progress, it feels like setting the stage for a later continuation – assuming it didn't just get dropped due to COVID – but even then it could get picked up again later.

And it has such a long shopping list of prerequisites: all the role quests, and the capstone, and all the Warring Triad and the associated extreme trials (including the need to beat Bismarck and Ravana to continue those quests, as simple as that is to do unsynched). It was even speculated by fans that they might plan to integrate the Eden quests in future.

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Those are just about restoring the void though, right? I haven't done all of them yet. I could see it maybe taking a different path, not necessarily restoration. I'm really just going off of Yoshi P's hint about that voidsent, but maybe it'll just be a trial boss. Meracydia is interesting though since it involves Allagans and the Void and got name-dropped by Emet.

I bet dynamis will continue to play a role in the story, even if we don't delve deep into the void yet. Though it would be strange to never have the void introduced to MSQ especially after they introduced a very interesting-looking and mysterious voidsent in it.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

If other worlds realized that Meiteion was coming, but she is limited by Dynamis in this universe, and yet there are other convenient parallel universe you can just pop over to that don't have a virus in the emotional dark matter - could they have dimension warped?

In FFXI, Dynamis was a parallel universe in an altered timeline where Dynamis Lord ruled. There was also Promyvions, which looked like a more washed out version of Ultima Thul in a lot of respects - scattered memories of the world of Vana'diel floating in the dark.

No matter what direction the story goes, I'd bet a million gil it's in another dimension. The 13th still is teetering on the brink of being consumed wholly by darkness, but it ran out of aether before the process could be completed. We may not be able to save those there with Alisae's methods.

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I wonder if we'll see Diabolos again. On the wiki it states he is simply banished back to the void, not totally destroyed. I haven't actually played FFXI but I know Diabolos is the ruler of dreams and plays a big role in the Dynamis universe. I can see us going to a parallel, dream world. Also interesting that one of the bosses in Dynamis is called Shinryu and...yeah.

We left Zenos with that strange voidsent in a similiar Dynamis zone which is a little interesting to me. Chekhov's gun? One of Koji Fox's favorite games is FFXI so there's definitely been some inspiration taken from it.

(once again I haven't actually played this game so correct me if i'm wrong)

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Originally Posted by Kordarion

Would this then mean that the Ea, Dragons and Omicrons in Ultima Thule are beings composed of pure Dynamis now? This is considering that their physical forms were only created as a result of Thancred's wish for the scions to live causing Ultima Thule to become a tangible and real place.

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They do drop Dynamis Crystals, suggesting they're still mostly dynamis.

What I was wondering about, was Heimdall's Last Sight. There is this Satellite and one of the Quests leads you there and that Questgiver Loporrit tells you that this Satellite crashed 5 Years ago. That is a pretty short time and why crashed it on the Moon?

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Originally Posted by Aneshda

What I was wondering about, was Heimdall's Last Sight. There is this Satellite and one of the Quests leads you there and that Questgiver Loporrit tells you that this Satellite crashed 5 Years ago. That is a pretty short time and why crashed it on the Moon?

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This is actually explained in the Sightseeing Log for Heimdall's Last Stand.

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The ancient Allagans launched this Heimdall-class vessel into the heavens to monitor Bahamut's prison, Dalamud. When that colossal satellite awakened around the time of the Seventh Umbral Calamity, the observation craft was shot down as it attempted to halt the activation process.

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