Discussing a New Character's Race in the Endwalker MSQ [Spoilers]

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

I wish it could happan, i have felt we needed a winged race well since heavenward expansion.

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No.

We have glamour for that.

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

No.

We have glamour for that.

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Oh yea we have glamor for cat ears, for tails so nekos should be removed right? We have bunny ears glam so bunnys should be removed right? We have horns glam so au'ra should be removed

Do you realize how stupid that is saying we have glam so no, for a body type? The glams dont function or move, theybare bounded to clothes so u have to wear the full thing.

Fashion accs cant be used in combat so dont even try

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

Oh yea we have glamor for cat ears, for tails so nekos should be removed right? We have bunny ears glam do bunnys should be removed right?

Do you realize how stuoid that is saying we have glam so no, for a body piece? The glams dont function or move, theybare bounded to clothes so u hsve to wear the full thing.

Fashion accs cant be used in combat so dont even try

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We've been asking for Viera since 1.0 when Yoshida first gave us a survey on what races we would like to see. Viera won, yet we got Au'ra instead who don't even match their concept art shown in a Liv Letter and Viera/Hrothgar are not even finished. If they were to add another race it would be the same cluster fuck we have now. Focus resources on fixing the current shit instead of adding more.

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Originally Posted by Caselia

We've been asking for Viera since 1.0 when Yoshida first gave us a survey on what races we would like to see. Viera won, yet we got Au'ra instead who don't even match their concept art shown in a Liv Letter and Viera/Hrothgar are not even finished. If they were to add another race it would be the same cluster fuck we have now. Focus resources on fixing the current shit instead of adding more.

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Im aware just making a point how retarded it is to use glam as a excuse

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Originally Posted by CrayonsAndPaint

Looked pretty interesting to see. Wanted to know everyone’s thoughts!

For those that don’t know,

Meteion is the name of the blue bird girl in Endwalker. Her race looks new.

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They said that with Au'Ra, and then we got Hroth'gar and Viera, we will get new races if the fan base asks enough.

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Originally Posted by LostTurtle98

They said that with Au'Ra, and then we got Hroth'gar and Viera, we will get new races if the fan base asks enough.

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Please, can we not. We don't need any more races. They should focus on what they already have. Improving male hrothgar, releasing female hrothgar in a good state, perhaps adding more headgear to viera, customization options in general, etc..

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

I'm fairly certain they said we are not going to get more playable races.

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They use the Au'Ra model without the scales and diffrent feet, it would not be a major departure from what we have already, and the game will always need "improvements" in some form or another, by that same argument should they stop adding jobs because it would take time away from improving the game?

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Please, can we not. We don't need any more races. They should focus on what they already have. Improving male hrothgar, releasing female hrothgar in a good state, perhaps adding more headgear to viera, customization options in general, etc..

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Simple fix for Viera/Hroth'gar helmets toggle ears off then you just have to mold the model around the skull.

So should they have stopped after Au'Ra and not made Viera because they could have focused more effort in allowing Au/Ra's horns/heads not to be linked, If people want another race to be playable let them have it, we shouldn't stop at what we have because it would temporarily subtract focus from what you want.

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Originally Posted by LostTurtle98

Simple fix for Viera/Hroth'gar helmets toggle ears off then you just have to mold the model around the skull.

So should they have stopped after Au'Ra and not made Viera because they could have focused more effort in allowing Au/Ra's horns/heads not to be linked, If people want another race to be playable let them have it, we shouldn't stop at what we have because it would temporarily subtract focus from what you want.

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And what is it you think I want?

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Originally Posted by Listrella

I don't think we'll be getting anymore playable races beyond female hrothgar which we'll be getting at some point the future, making races is hard, best they focus their efforts on other things.

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I mean putting new hair styles on viera/hroth'gar is hard, so was making the male viera maybe they should have just put the effort elsewhere?

Would be nice, won't happen. (cry in hrotgal that won't be a thing before the next expansion)

*Shrugs* more focus on your race? personally i think the game should keep expanding its roster of playable races and jobs, there is plenty of manpower and resources to allow them to do that and work on the rest of the game. Need i remind you they are doing a graphical overhaul in the background.

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Originally Posted by Powercow

No, almost certainly not.

1: New races take an exorbitant amount of time and resources to make work, and given that they're just *now* getting around to sorta-kinda-maybe fixing Viera hats... I mean, bunny ears are one thing, imagine trying to make gear that works with wings sticking out of your head.
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And no, Meteion is rather unique. She had some identical clones also produced, but she was never approved for mass-production and there are no backups of her data for reproduction.

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Yeah it'd be like making a helmet that works with horns sticking out of your head, or ears on the top of your head!

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Originally Posted by Mazora_Espeon

What is it with people wanting everything to be playable? I mean while it would be nice if it is, I, for one, and appreciative for what I have. That and... Lalafell Master Race! *drops mic*

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Desire for Uniqueness and variety is ever mans bane isn't it?

Tbf we're all just some type of human with cat ears, or human with horns and scales.

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Originally Posted by LostTurtle98

*Shrugs* more focus on your race? personally i think the game should keep expanding its roster of playable races and jobs, there is plenty of manpower and resources to allow them to do that and work on the rest of the game. Need i remind you they are doing a graphical overhaul in the background.

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Do you work at SE? Do you have a direct line to Yoshida? Because whenever Yoshida has talked about the addition of new races, he has iterated just how costly and difficult it is to work on and add new races. The addition of each race adds more and more to the workload with each and every patch. The fact that we somehow got male viera and female hrothgar on the way is a miracle in and of itself.

we're talking about a company that can't put a hat on a rabbit, how do you think they would make this race? No hat and hair, because of the "wings" on the head, no pants, because of the bird's tail, and no shoes, because of the paws.

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Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse

That's why I didn't play Xenoblade either (along with its generally disappointing/ugly character designs).

Wings sprouting from the skull are an anatomical nightmare, and imo look ridiculous. I was quite disappointed to see it show up in XIV, and as the final boss no less.

I hope we never see this race ever again. It's hideous.

I love you Yoshi-P, but you tripped at the finish line.

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If we are going by Anatomical i feel that same way about Lala's lets work towards them being removed first shall we? >:)

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

we're talking about a company that can't put a hat on a rabbit, how do you think they would make this race? No hat and hair, because of the "wings" on the head, no pants, because of the bird's tail, and no shoes, because of the paws.

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The wings are no different than the horns for Viera, as for pants eh, make them all cutt off at the knee. To be fair it is a shame they cant get helmets/hats right, but it does not mean the race couldn't be made. Also Meteion doesn't have Paws.

P.s. i prefer playable garleans over any other race but i do like the look of Meteion.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Do you work at SE? Do you have a direct line to Yoshida? Because whenever Yoshida has talked about the addition of new races, he has iterated just how costly and difficult it is to work on and add new races. The addition of each race adds more and more to the workload with each and every patch. The fact that we somehow got male viera and female hrothgar on the way is a miracle in and of itself.

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Hmm maybe they should delete a few races to make the work load easier. Thing is as a designer once you have the skeleton of the gear piece type set on the model you can just copy/paste to the design and tweak it. at least from what little i've dabbled in.

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Originally Posted by LostTurtle98

Also Meteion doesn't have Paws.

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Originally Posted by LostTurtle98

The wings are no different than the horns for Viera, as for pants eh, make them all cutt off at the knee.

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oh yes, SE has been doing a good job fixing the items for the races, they will definitely do that...

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Originally Posted by LostTurtle98

Hmm maybe they should delete a few races to make the work load easier. Thing is as a designer once you have the skeleton of the gear piece type set on the model you can just copy/paste to the design and tweak it. at least from what little i've dabbled in.

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Oh yeah? Which races? Viera? And, if so, would that be directed at me because I am playing as one?

Lol.

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Originally Posted by LostTurtle98

Those are hind legs :)

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whatever, they won't fix their shoes for that. My argument remains the same

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Oh yeah? Which races? Viera? And would that be directed at me because I am playing as one?

Lol.

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Well i'd say start with the Lalafel's but... playing (Or trying to) gate keeper on what races should or should not be made while playing the newest race which has required the most amount of effort, while also saying they should not do it because it would take away effort from the game is kind of ironic?

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

whatever, they won't fix their shoes for that. My argument remains the same

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Races have been made the inability to show certain type of gear, head, shoulders, legs etc and it's gone just fine so i don't see it as being much of an issue.

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Originally Posted by LostTurtle98

Races have been made the inability to show certain type of gear, head, shoulders, legs etc and it's gone just fine so i don't see it as being much of an issue.

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https://i.gifer.com/fetch/w300-previ...97178cb3ff.gif

You are so cute. Hey, people, look what this person is saying

Disregarding the lore implications, Evankurga would be the easiest copy-paste job for SE. If SE can't be bothered to add animations for a new race then they could just do what Blizzard did with allied races and just reuse the Au Ra rig and animations. Only thing they have to change is to add a few birdman themed customization options and call it the day. But as aforementioned, it's been three years since ShB came out and for some inexplicable reason SE can't be bothered to adjust fit hats onto Hrothgars (a task that modders on their free time have taken up) so I guess we're stuck with having low standards for FF14.

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Originally Posted by Mazora_Espeon

What is it with people wanting everything to be playable? I mean while it would be nice if it is, I, for one, and appreciative for what I have. That and... Lalafell Master Race! *drops mic*

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I'd play a Kobold. Gimme that Beast Race Warrior of Light, Square!

Personally, I just think they're neat. I only just got Ga Bu but if anything happened to him, I'd kill everyone on this forum then myself.

Metion's digitigrade legs render nearly every piece of legwear in the game unable to be shown without a LOT of reworking. For this reason alone, I simply can not see her as the archetype of a new playable race.

Im not arrogant enough to sit here and be all "Well they can just do it if they want to." and act like I know better then the devs.
But I do have a spec of hope that maybe in the future they can surprise us and find a way to make more races, while not completely taxing themselves, and make the playerbase happy.

Ive said a couple times in other threads, it would be Super Neat if they could bring in the Bangaa. Seeing the Models they made looked pretty good, so it makes me wish they could touch them up, and create more varying options for customization and make them playable! But yes, we'd face the same issue with headgear. Personally, I thonk it would be neat if they made some Lv1 Racial gear for them, taking inspiration from past FF games and just adapting them into FFXIV as unique glamours. They did it for the Hrothgar Claws, they could/should do it for headgear.
Same for Lupin, be neat if they could get updated, add some options, make them playable, design some unique Headgear.
And then we are lacking a 2nd Smol option. Ivalice Moogles would be awesome.

This is all a Pipe-Dream. But I always like to have a spec of hope that things "could" happen, if the Devs can find solutions.