Dalamud in 1.22b

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

or the cities are damaged and we return as spirits 100 years later but we dont know we are already dead til the end.

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Well it is true that I have stood at the Garuda node many times and said "I see dead people"
haha....

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

A large ammount of Ather dispersal upon impact in a non populated place, could cause climate changes, adverse geological formations and such. the towns may be altered ever so slightly but it could be the way they are built with the exception of gridania. If that place is unchanged I dunno how to explain that.

Dalamud has some kinda function other then just crash and burn, that could be what causes the destruction instead of the impact itself.

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You know, I've never heard anyone mention this (And if someone has, sorry for not giving you credit)
But I don't know how I overlooked the possibility that the impact is not the intended result
Dalamud, being man made, could bery likely be a bomb.... a BIG bomb....

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...alamud_120.jpg
http://www.ffxivplayers.com/w/images...180px-Bomb.jpg
http://finalfantasy.neoseeker.com/w/...0/FFX_Bomb.jpg
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...1329613161.jpg

ok... joking about it being the bomb MOB, but so serious about it being intended to blow up upon impact

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Originally Posted by Impulse

Doesn't mean it can't have its own gravitational pull.

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Depends on the mass of the object. Gravity is the mass bending space time fabric.

I think the Allagan empire discovered the same Astral / Umbral cycle we know of now, and then created Dalamud for one reason or another, in a way that they knew it would survive into future cycles. So we have to ask ourselves this, for what purpose would the Allagans create a WMD like meteor or a giant bomb that would survive well past their "end of days"
It could serve no end for themselves so they must have left it for future species to utilize in some way. Perhaps a method of stopping the cycle.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

But its not a planet or a moon but a giant mechanism created by the Allagan Empire long ago.

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It actually looks more like a compressed ball of aether, the mechanism inside could be quite small.

There is a good chance that when it lands it won't do much damage but will change the surrounding area due to it being a big ball of magic.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Depends on the mass of the object. Gravity is the mass bending space time fabric.

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True... and although there are theories (Some even widely accepted), none are proven. Which means we still don't know what gravity is

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Originally Posted by Rydin

You know, I've never heard anyone mention this (And if someone has, sorry for not giving you credit)
But I don't know how I overlooked the possibility that the impact is not the intended result
Dalamud, being man made, could bery likely be a bomb.... a BIG bomb....

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...alamud_120.jpg
http://www.ffxivplayers.com/w/images...180px-Bomb.jpg
http://finalfantasy.neoseeker.com/w/...0/FFX_Bomb.jpg
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...1329613161.jpg

ok... joking about it being the bomb MOB, but so serious about it being intended to blow up upon impact

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LOL

Another thing mentioned before is maybe they sealed Odin inside of that mechanism and launched his ass into space. Cause in 2.0 he is supposed to be a roaming storm of pissed off primalness.

It would make sense and explain why the aether of Eorzea is being drained into Dalamud seeing as thats the "lifeblood" of the primals and they thrive on that.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

LOL

Another thing mentioned before is maybe they sealed Odin inside of that mechanism and launched his ass into space. Cause in 2.0 he is supposed to be a roaming storm of pissed off primalness.

It would make sense and explain why the aether of Eorzea is being drained into Dalamud seeing as thats the "lifeblood" of the primals and they thrive on that.

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I've always loved Odin... that would be awesome

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Originally Posted by Jinko

It actually looks more like a compressed ball of aether, the mechanism inside could be quite small.

There is a good chance that when it lands it won't do much damage but will change the surrounding area due to it being a big ball of magic.

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Ya, there's no way they'll be an actual impact, otherwise 2.0 will look like Fallout rather then a fantasy realm. Judging by how big the "moon" looks it would most likely destroy the world lol. I'm still betting on the energy of the moon bursting out and enveloping Eorzea in it's aura to force a change within it. I"m think by the next big update we should be seeing the phenomenon of the arethyte gates gravitating towards Dalamud since that was in the sketches a while back. Or.... maybe those red gates will act as teleportation devices allowing us to land on Dalamud for the Job weapons since I'm still thinking Dalamud has a connection to the job weapons we should be getting in 1.22 A or B.

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Originally Posted by Airget

Ya, there's no way they'll be an actual impact, otherwise 2.0 will look like Fallout rather then a fantasy realm. Judging by how big the "moon" looks it would most likely destroy the world lol. I'm still betting on the energy of the moon bursting out and enveloping Eorzea in it's aura to force a change within it. I"m think by the next big update we should be seeing the phenomenon of the arethyte gates gravitating towards Dalamud since that was in the sketches a while back. Or.... maybe those red gates will act as teleportation devices allowing us to land on Dalamud for the Job weapons since I'm still thinking Dalamud has a connection to the job weapons we should be getting in 1.22 A or B.

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Oh man, teleporting to Dalamud that would be awesome, especially if it feel like you are in space.

They could have some really cool ethereal style monsters, crystal monster.. this idea is too good to be true though :(

Something to ponder... what if Meteor doesn't land? We're all assuming that meteor will crash down, and the changes to the landscape will be a result of the devestation, but what if instead the changes come about as the result of the CURE to meteor?

As we know, meteor is intended to wipe out Eorzea. However, we also know the cities will be largely the same as they were come 2.0. It seems rather odd that the disaster would have little impact on the cities. I'm imagining something like Holy from FFVII: Something coming out of the ground to stop the meteor.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Something to ponder... what if Meteor doesn't land? We're all assuming that meteor will crash down, and the changes to the landscape will be a result of the devestation, but what if instead the changes come about as the result of the CURE to meteor?

As we know, meteor is intended to wipe out Eorzea. However, we also know the cities will be largely the same as they were come 2.0. It seems rather odd that the disaster would have little impact on the cities. I'm imagining something like Holy from FFVII: Something coming out of the ground to stop the meteor.

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Not to be a 7 fanboy, but I liked the idea of Holy stopping meteor
And them being one of the few iterations of Light/dark in the game

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We're all assuming that meteor will crash down, and the changes to the landscape will be a result of the devestation

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We are? o:

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

LOL

Another thing mentioned before is maybe they sealed Odin inside of that mechanism and launched his ass into space. Cause in 2.0 he is supposed to be a roaming storm of pissed off primalness.

It would make sense and explain why the aether of Eorzea is being drained into Dalamud seeing as thats the "lifeblood" of the primals and they thrive on that.

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Or maybe Odin is sealed inside the Crystal Tower that's supposed to show up soon. After all it's the tomb of a king and Odin has been a king in FF history.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies

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There are so many scientific inaccuracies in this one post it makes me lol! You need to read up on General Relativity.

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Originally Posted by ChickNorris

Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.

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This one is slightly better, but the length of the day wouldn't change if the moon disappeared, the moon is very gradually slowing down the spin of the earth. If the moon disappeared, the deceleration would stop, and our days would remain at 24 hour days.

It's just a game anyways! And it's a fantasy game, science doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by Alkar

Or maybe Odin is sealed inside the Crystal Tower that's supposed to show up soon. After all it's the tomb of a king and Odin has been a king in FF history.

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The possibilities! The speculation! x)

2.0 hurry and get here ; ;

I'll get banned for this but I have "Acquired" an image of Dalamud in the next patch.

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...-1920-1080.jpg

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Originally Posted by Haibel

I'll get banned for this but I have "Acquired" an image of Dalamud in the next patch.

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...-1920-1080.jpg

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So it has been foretold!

not sure if anyone posted this already.

http://bandofthewhitehawk.enjin.com/...373#pid=421937

Fly me to Dalamoon
Let me play among the sky
Let me see what spring is like
On Meteor up high
In other words, hold my hand
In other words, baby, kiss me

Fill my heart with Bard
And let me sing for ever more
You are all I long for
All I summon and adore
In other words, please be true
In other words, I love you

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Originally Posted by MrKupo

Fly me to Dalamoon
Let me play among the sky
Let me see what spring is like
On Meteor up high
In other words, hold my hand
In other words, baby, kiss me

Fill my heart with Bard
And let me sing for ever more
You are all I long for
All I summon and adore
In other words, please be true
In other words, I love you

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Bayonetta! <3 Maybe she'll come and rescue us all?

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

Bayonetta! <3 Maybe she'll come and rescue us all?

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That was such a corny ass game. But I did love the game play in it.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

A large ammount of Ather dispersal upon impact in a non populated place, could cause climate changes, adverse geological formations and such. the towns may be altered ever so slightly but it could be the way they are built with the exception of gridania. If that place is unchanged I dunno how to explain that.

Dalamud has some kinda function other then just crash and burn, that could be what causes the destruction instead of the impact itself.

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Actually, come to think of it the Conjurer's in the Twin Adder quests have been mentioning something about raising a "Carmine Hedge" around Gridania which, according to them is the most powerful hedge the Conjurers can summon. It surrounds not only the borders, but everything from the sky above to the ground below in a great spherical magic barrier.

But somehow we keep getting thwarted by the damn imperials. >_<

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Actually, come to think of it the Conjurer's in the Twin Adder quests have been mentioning something about raising a "Carmine Hedge" around Gridania which, according to them is the most powerful hedge the Conjurers can summon. It surrounds not only the borders, but everything from the sky above to the ground below in a great spherical magic barrier.

But somehow we keep getting thwarted by the damn imperials. >_<

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Damn conjurers slacking on the job I'LL raise the hedge by myself!

It has already been confirmed that wherever I am Dalamud will land so the weavers of the LS are trying to craft me padded armor. ; ;

No really I did fine dalamud for the next patch.

http://www.astroarts.jp/news/2011/01.../kepler10b.jpg

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

Bayonetta! <3 Maybe she'll come and rescue us all?

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That's...not just a Bayonetta song.

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Originally Posted by Keres

That's...not just a Bayonetta song.

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DERP! Really?

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Actually, come to think of it the Conjurer's in the Twin Adder quests have been mentioning something about raising a "Carmine Hedge" around Gridania which, according to them is the most powerful hedge the Conjurers can summon. It surrounds not only the borders, but everything from the sky above to the ground below in a great spherical magic barrier.

But somehow we keep getting thwarted by the damn imperials. >_<

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I'm pretty sure somewhere in the PDFs it says that the huge change to Eorza came from something bursting out of the ground. So I imagine a huge battle against this Dalamoon will take place right before 2.0. This thing summoned by the Conjurers will put a stop to the Garlean's impact using Dalamoon, but it will also cause an unintended apocalypse, not by the impact of dalamoon but instead by the uncontrollable power of the Carmine Hedge or whatever is used to defend Eorza.

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Originally Posted by Keres

That's...not just a Bayonetta song.

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Hmm. Didn't know I said it is. :rolleyes:
It's obviously a Dalamud song too! :D

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Originally Posted by Keres

That's...not just a Bayonetta song.

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Yeah.... That was my thought as well, then I felt old for immediately hearing the lyrics in the smooth tones of Frank Sinatra.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

Yeah.... That was my thought as well, then I felt old for immediately hearing the lyrics in the smooth tones of Frank Sinatra.

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Yea, then you're probably old.... but so am I.
Just had a Rat Pack conversation on voice chat the other day. haha

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Originally Posted by Alzelia

There are so many scientific inaccuracies in this one post it makes me lol! You need to read up on General Relativity.

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name one???

You know, the next patch is slated for the 10th, which is the day the "Welcome Back" campaign starts. (On the 9th at 8pm but close enough). I wonder if they have something big planned for it to try and hook those returnees.