For Absent Friends and the trolling around the Fate Chain spawn.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I think for sure Lyon II is 5 star and people say they do up to 50 runs of Dalriada for it. It took me in that sort of territory for Lyon I from Castrum, which is also 5 star.
So I suppose it just really is that rare that you can do any of these skirmishes 50 times just for a slim chance at a drop.

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My friend had more than 50 Castrum runs and finally got the note in the Duel which was his last note. My characters who have the note all got it in less then 15 runs. My alt Kayla still needs 17/44/45 but I won't grind 17 unless it's her last note. I'll simply do her weeklies and hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

12 is a 4 star note 14 is a 5 star. It's certainly reasonable to expect that people shouldn't have to work that hard for a 4 star note. I'm of the opinion they shouldn't have to work that hard for a 5 star note either when other 5 star notes are not subject to the same nonsense.

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By comparison a note of equal rarity to Saritouvour is Dabog I

Dabog drops from Aces High and Murder Death Kill, two completely separate chains.

Murder Death Kill being a Fate that is completely Seperated from CE chain Fates, it shares a spawn spot with another fate which should be cleared when trying to spawn Murder Death Kill.

This is the main issue with the For Absent Friends fate chain

Every other note of higher rarity typically drops in different places making them feel less of a chore to obtain as if one method isn't up, you can do the other.

Sarti is literally both drops gated into the same Fate chain and that is just plain bad.

I had to farm Murder Death Kill for months to get that one, and I was doing that before there was a mount from it.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I had to farm Murder Death Kill for months to get that one, and I was doing that before there was a mount from it.

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Murder Death Kill is much more farm friendly however, being it's an uncoupled Fate therefore cannot be blocked off by CE chains and you're right on top of the Zone 3 Cluster farm spot so while it's on cooldown, you can cluster farm between.

It's possible to see 5 Murder Death Kill spawns before you even get a wiff of FaF spawning and that shows just how bad the FaF chain is.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

If they are AFK how are they whining?

AFK is not the same as either clueless or lazy.

I dislike Bosja personally because its not my kind of experience, but I know people in my FC that spend a lot of time there and people do tend to either not know about how to spawn something or just care to let others do the work.

question I have is, why yell at people? isnt that a bit toxic in and of itself? Just ignore them.

maybe the issue isnt other people or the zone, just saying, in my experience, other people generally treat you like you treat them, in my experience anyway.

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They Semi AFK as sitting fully AFK would result in auto kick from the instance.

So they sit, check in every couple of minutes to reset the auto kick timer and back to AFK

"It's toxic to yell at them"

No, it's toxic to sit and expect everyone else to do the work and complain at them when it's not spawned

Sorry, this is the kind of hand holding community behaviour that has resulted in players behaving badly and believing they are absolutely entitled to do it.

If you're not helping, you're hindering, if you're hindering and complaining then you're justifying people blocking the spawn with trash fate chains and I'm tired of "but what about their feelings" to excuse it.

AFKers are symptoms that result in the Fate chain being trolled.

AFK timer for me needs to be adjusted to a much more harsh auto kick and an auto lockout added as well.

5 minutes to auto kick, get auto kicked and you're locked out for 10/30/60 minutes.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

robot waifus

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Whoa whoa whoa, where the hell are these robot waifus and how come I'm just now heading about them? You know something that we don't?

Easiest way around this issue is if SE would let folks buy certain notes with clusters/coins or make the notes drop from their respective Skirmish/CE chains and not just one skirmish or duel in the chain like is the case with Sartauvoir.

im sure notes will be buyable sooner than later even if they cost 20 gold coins or something like that

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Whoa whoa whoa, where the hell are these robot waifus and how come I'm just now heading about them? You know something that we don't?

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The Nier raids. Probably you skipped the cutscenes or forgot them since they are not good nor memorable.

We can't expect the whole instance of people in various stages of Bozja progression from newbie to mettle capped note grinder, to ignore everything else just to get one fate chain to spawn as soon as possible.

Aside from people who are specifically hanging out to do FATES that drop notes, there are also people who are just doing Bozja for all kinds of other reasons that SE created the content for and those people also have every right to spawn FATES that may or may not help people spawn FAF faster.

When I farmed my notes, I took that into consideration and didn't stress out about the chain. I encountered all kinds of players who absolutely did not care about notes and had their own goals, people it would be much easier to not fight or grief with. There are people who actually want to do Mechanical Man and Unicorn and other FATES so my need for something else, does not take priority any more than theirs does.

I didn't try to stop other people from doing their thing and for some, that thing was to spawn fates that countered the fate I needed so I remained persistent, waited till I had another chance and eventually got mine done.

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Originally Posted by MStowastiqVahlshdeh

We can't expect the whole instance of people in various stages of Bozja progression from newbie to mettle capped note grinder, to ignore everything else just to get one fate chain to spawn as soon as possible.

Aside from people who are specifically hanging out to do FATES that drop notes, there are also people who are just doing Bozja for all kinds of other reasons that SE created the content for and those people also have every right to spawn FATES that may or may not help people spawn FAF faster.

When I farmed my notes, I took that into consideration and didn't stress out about the chain. I encountered all kinds of players who absolutely did not care about notes and had their own goals, people it would be much easier to not fight or grief with. There are people who actually want to do Mechanical Man and Unicorn and other FATES so my need for something else, does not take priority any more than theirs does.

I didn't try to stop other people from doing their thing and for some, that thing was to spawn fates that countered the fate I needed so I remained persistent, waited till I had another chance and eventually got mine done.

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If that were absolutely the case, people legitimately don't mind and I actively help clear down CE chains myself whenever I'm in BSF

But when people are legitimately blocking the fate chain on purpose that's a different story

Especially when these self same people go into Metal wolf with no intention of dueling and trying to Rescue people into the lasers.

They don't want to duel themselves, they just want to do whatever it takes to stop others getting the note

I admire their conviction in a way, some have really set their minds to doing everything they can to deny that Fate chain and even the duel.

Yet it just goes to show SE have work to do surrounding how the chains spawn so things like this are less susceptible to being trolled.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Especially when these self same people go into Metal wolf with no intention of dueling and trying to Rescue people into the lasers.

They don't want to duel themselves, they just want to do whatever it takes to stop others getting the note

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Have been doing Bozja since it came out and I've never encountered nor witnessed this scenario. Either Aether is a really crappy data centre, or you are being taken for a lolcow.

Regardless of which, Rescue only works if you are in a party. If you know what you are doing, you don't need a party for CEs.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Have been doing Bozja since it came out and I've never encountered nor witnessed this scenario. Either Aether is a really crappy data centre, or you are being taken for a lolcow.

Regardless of which, Rescue only works if you are in a party. If you know what you are doing, you don't need a party for CEs.

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Why I stopped grouping. Now it's just a matter of getting picked for the duel/making sure I don't mess up.

And I wouldn't say Aether is necessarily a bad data centre, we just have one particular server that shall not be named which has a higher population of players that may be a bit on the immature side (the kind that think purposely chasing after the dps when they're marked with a cleave tankbuster is clever and funny)