Have you ever been kicked for not having "good enough" gear?

I left Castrum when the group would not kick a healer with their Conj stone. That’s right. The group was still pulling like normal but the Conj couldn’t keep up heals. I did a kick and it didn’t pass (keep in mind other players were straight up complaining about the Conj in there but didn’t kick them). So I left.

I’ve even had a tank and dps in A level 40 dungeon wear gear 20 levels below it to “troll the healer” which was me.

Yeah you get all types

I don’t like to kick players but I will if they are clearly AFK or doing something to troll the group (like a BLM who never used an AOE spell once)

Pff I was kicked once for asking how to zoom out lol

Nope

The only times that really strike as noticeable to me is when I was a new player to the game back in 2014~ when I didn't really understand it. I'd imagine I was quite a pain on the 30-52 level bracket, but I eventually caught up - I don't remember if I were undergeared as such. But I definitely do recall finding myself getting gear gated by Steps of Faith.

I've only ever been kicked in Heaven on High.

Haven't been kicked since I came back, but in HW there was a stretch when I said I was learning a dungeon and tanking where I'd get the boot rapidly. No comments, no advice, just boot when the timer enabled it.

I honestly don't know if I've ever been kicked from a duty...at least not that I recall. If I did it was probably for something else since I typically go for the highest(not necessarily BiS) gear I can get for my jobs.

Back in 3.0 days, I got kicked for having savage gear in a dungeon, the person actually said "looking at your gear I know what kind of player you are".

It happened after I corrected the tank on something they said that was incorrect, something like monk doesn't have good aoe skills, and I felt that was a direct attack on me because I was actually doing the most damage in the party. I wasn't mean or toxic about it but being red DPS and correcting someone is always risky, so that comment probably made newer players believe them for the kick.


Game can be a small world. I actually re-met this same player in Stormblood randomly in a PF, and helped them clear the current extreme primal. No hard feelings, held myself to the standard I originally set :)

i got kicked from Sohm al pulling out wrong turret once

Never been kicked, but I have been scolded for bringing patchwork green/pink gear on an alt job. We finished in decent time. I understand the annoyance, but the people I was with didn't care enough to wait for a replacement. Generally getting kicked is better than making you leave since you get no punishment for it (you can immediately requeue).

I have never kicked anyone over their gear but I have left groups over gear. Healing a tank with mostly 130 poetics gear in late Stormblood lvling dungeons is not fun. I don't mind carrying players to a degree. Everyone is new at some point, has a bad day or just makes silly mistakes. I don't expect perfection. But I won't put myself through breaking my back healing a tank made of tissue paper because they expect the healer to make up for their laziness with gear. This has not happened to me often but each time it has the player wasn't even new. They had several max lvl classes. They knew exactly what they were doing. One even had the cheek to accuse me of laziness because I didn't want to heal them lol.

Good on OP for understanding their mistake when it was pointed out to them.

No never been kicked. I had a new tank who said "BRD LEAVE THE GAME" I think this was in copperbell mines. The Summoner's pet was killing the slimes and he thought it was me.

I just found it funny and then the Summoner spoke up and said they where new. I felt sorry for the summoner, it did not bother me I have played a long time and now I am thick skinned.

I would not kick for low gear or bad play as everyone starts somewhere and I am not a arsehead.

The only time I left was a few weeks back in PVP because it was awful and I had no patience lol

Yes, but I can count how many times I've had to do this over the 7 years I've been playing on one hand.

Every time this was because the person's gear was so bad it was actually keeping us from progressing. Think healer with an Ironworks weapon still in something like Ala Mhigo where they legitimately can't put out enough healing to keep a tank alive even through single group pulls, or vice versa, the tank with armor so far below level that they die if an enemy just looks at them funny.

If it's an issue of DPS being too low and hitting enrage, then I'm more likely to vote abandon as typically that's an issue of multiple people being too poorly geared as opposed to trying to dismiss every person who is under geared.

To your point, not every dungeon in the game has a minimum item level requirement, so you can end up in situations, especially because of people using things like Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High to level, where a person just doesn't have gear or skill up to par with the content they're trying to take on, but they were allowed to queue in anyway because that item level requirement doesn't keep them out. Your situation, though, seems more like someone upset they couldn't farm their relic items fast enough, and rather than just take one clear as being shorter and move on, made it take even longer by dismissing the person.

Edit : read this backwards.... I mentioned times I initiated the vote dismiss. Though yes, I've also been kicked out of groups for them claiming I wasn't doing enough damage. This was more of an issue back in my Heavensward days before people knew that this kind of behavior could get you banned from the game.

No, but looking back at my sprout days, I should have been a couple of times.

I asked to be kicked a twice or so because my tank was wholly undergeared for the dungeon but they refused
the only time I got kicked is because I asked a level capped healer to use something else other than cure 1 in bardams :'(

Having crap gear while leveling is only a legitimate problem as a Healer, or as a tank if you want to pull big.

I remember as a sprout leveling my SMN with crap gear; no one seemed to care. Eventually I decided to switch to SCH and try healing in the same crap gear... My hard cast heals only restored about 1/10th of the tanks HP. Even just targeting the tank and focus healing I couldn't keep him up; not even that I was running out of mana, things were just literally out-damaging my healing. The group was cool and we got through the run, but I ended up buying gear immediately after and healing from there was pretty easy/boring. Healers need to keep up with at least their weapon.

So far? Not at all, I was kicked once because I did no see the reason to dps when I'm struggling to keep the stupid tank alive. Well, you can't always have a good equipment if people just kicks you because they won't cheese the dungeon under 3 minutes.

No I haven't been. I was kicked before because I couldn't keep a tank alive as a healer when he was in a lvl 70 dungeon and had lvl 60 and below gear on.

Gear matters so little in this game you'd have to be really really behind for me to consider it.

I cant say I have or that I remember. Honestly the only dungeon I remember having difficulty keeping up in was when heavensword came out and a mid level dungeon was rough to heal through as whm and again sch.

I wouldn't take your experience as common place. Surprised to see any drama at level 70 but lower level dungeons have a lot of wannabe elites dictating nonsense. If it happens a few times, maybe there's something to consider. But from what it sounds like they queued together and discussed between one another to kick you both. Not exactly the kind of people I'd want to hang with anyway.

No.

If I don't have the tomes for alt gear or feel like buying it, I run PotD, HoH or Bozja, which are literally designed for that and can theoretically get you from 1-80 with no gear whatsoever. It amazes me that people still go into dungeons under-geared when SE have provided alternatives that give decent exp and don't require gear at all.

"I don't want to do that, I want dungeons, but I don't want to get gear!" is just selfish really.

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Have you ever been kicked for not having "good enough" gear?

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In one point : No PL

There are enough ways to get to the dungeon with decent stuff. This includes the stuff and the materias.

Leveling up squadrons is one of the most worthwhile things I've done in this game. Set the entire group to level 5 Offense and they melt dungeons faster than any player group that would whine about "carrying" you. Squadrons >>> Other players from 1-60. 61-71 you'll probably need to buy gear for, but then you do 71-80 in Bozja and you're good.

I was leveling up my WHM back when I was still fairly new to the game. To level I was simply doing the highest level dungeon I could, the idea being to learn how to heal by doing content that would make me have to do it. When I reached Stone Vigil, I couldn't keep the tank alive for anything. Even small pulls were a struggle because my gear was way below what it should have been at that point. Rather than me being kicked, the tank quit. I apologized for not being geared enough to handle the dungeon, and left the party myself.

While I wasn't kicked, I darn well should have been.

I got yelled at once because the group thought my gear was bad when I was levelling WHM and couldn't keep a tank alive on a single pull.

Then I pointed out that I was in full Scaevan while the tank was in.....unaugmented Ironworks. In Dohn Mheg.

Then I left. Ain't got the patience for that.

I've been in a party that kicked someone for not having good enough gear, but in that particular instance there was literally no excuse. We were in akademia anyder and their entire left side aside from the weapon was scaevan gear. It took us forever to reach the first boss and the healer was having to focus on the tank alone even with single pulls. And the game literally gives you a free set of 80 gear.
So yeah, I didn't feel too bad about them getting kicked.

Only once when leveling WHM. It was a ARR dungeon, I Stone Vigil. I had trouble keeping the tank alive and the others told me I really need to update my gear. Everyone else was fine, it was really just me. I had accidentally turned in part of my gear for company seals and didn't notice it, just used auto gearing without checking what I was wearing, saved it and queued.
I usually pay very close attention to my gear and keep it updated as best as I can. That one was definitely deserved because I was weaing some lv 10 stuff and hadn't even noticed.

I had another case of an almost-kick when I queued for story Ravana and had the absolute best gear in every slot I could get but since I was lv 53, I wasn't overgeared - just properly geared for the level. Tank said I'm undergeared and even tried a vote kick after we wiped to not killing adds but it thankfully didn't pass and one of the dps chimed in, saying that there's literally no better gear you can have at that level.

But I had lots of cases with other people before they set min ilvl for leveling dungeons. SCH wearing a ~34ish weapin in Aery, another one with a 49ish weapon in Doma, a tank with low 63ish gear in Holminster, a BLM in early HW gear in Doma, a tank with low level caster gear in Brayflox and a BRD with a ARR weapon in Dohn Mheg are the ones that come to mind right now. But I know there've been more cases. The one with the tank in Holminster even escalated into a huge party chat discussion with lots of insults from the tank and he ended up traveling on Shiva to insult me.

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Originally Posted by Stepjam

I've been in a party that kicked someone for not having good enough gear, but in that particular instance there was literally no excuse. We were in akademia anyder and their entire left side aside from the weapon was scaevan gear. It took us forever to reach the first boss and the healer was having to focus on the tank alone even with single pulls. And the game literally gives you a free set of 80 gear.
So yeah, I didn't feel too bad about them getting kicked.

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How did they get in??? Isn't there an item level requirement?

It is not the gear that makes people boot others, it is the lack of perceived effort on the part of the individual going into specific kinds of content. Just thought I'd put that in there. :)

Item level requirement for pug DFs is just an average, and there is still the issue up to Heavensward levels where all accessories can be equipped by any job. Reminded me of a Dark Knight in Dun Scaith I think it was, couldn't hold aggro worth a candle and it turned out he was wearing a mix of healer and aiming right sides to skirt the item level. This changed in Stormblood where they became job locked going forward.

I know, I got hard locked on MSQ because of item level.

I'm trying to figure out how people are getting into ShB and SB dungeons with trash low level gear.

The item level locks in Leveling were only added a few patches ago. Before that, you could end up in anything you had unlocked as long as you were high enough level, regardless of gear. You could be in level one glamour gear and get tossed into Mt Gulg.

Ouch.

Now I wish I'd done my msq earlier. Lol. I need 440 or 460 or something. I don't have it. :(

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I know, I got hard locked on MSQ because of item level.

I'm trying to figure out how people are getting into ShB and SB dungeons with trash low level gear.

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To reach item level during leveling, you need to craft it on your own, buy gear at a npc vendors or on mb. Gear is pretty cheap.
Can happen if you don't have that much loot luck.

Poetics gear.
You can use the full augmented lvl 50 gear (ilvl 130?) All the way from lvl 50-60.
Then you use the lvl 60 poetics gear until 70 and repeat.

I had horrible gear leveling astro and was promptly kicked I think it was Dohn Megh, and honestly i agree cuz the healing was very aggressive and didnt wanna leave

I wouldn't dwell on bad dungeon groups, just bounce, move on, and enjoy the game. Spend your time with the people who want to have fun.

Never been kicked (as far as I can remember) and haven't kicked anyone because of gear.

The only places I really notice people with low gear is in the lv50 and under content where ilvl isn't enforced, particularly the 30-50 range (Longstop - AV), and even then I'll usually ask if they have any better gear on them and if not just slog through and hope gear for them drops.

Two incidents in particular I remember happened in Stone Vigil, which seems to be the biggest offender since both Qarn and Cutter's Cry are optional side quest dungeons.
The first was where the tank was a little low in gear (not uncommon) but the healer (AST) was still in pre-20 gear. I noticed and asked if they had any better gear on them, at which point they were able to find a couple pieces of lv50(???) gear to wear.
The second I was tanking with a leveling healer and two sprout DPS, all undergeared. I pulled small and went after the optional chests in hopes that gear for them would drop. Unfortunately, both DPS were casters and we only got melee and tank drops. This was on top of the Arcanist not using their Crystal because they were 'unfamiliar' with the job.

Someone else also mentioned this, but pre-lvl50 gear recommendations aren't that great, especially for tanks where it often recommends the DPS pieces over the better (but lower ilvl) Tank gear or Tank/DRG dungeon gear.

Oh!
Although, thinking about it... while I haven't seen people get kicked for not having good enough gear (people just leave instead), I have seen people get booted from Savage for coming in with zero materia.

ngl, I have wanted to kick someone who queue into a dungeon with overly underleveled gear, especially if you're the tank or healer. You're just wasting my time at that point.

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Oh!
Although, thinking about it... while I haven't seen people get kicked for not having good enough gear (people just leave instead), I have seen people get booted from Savage for coming in with zero materia.

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Not potting on cooldown is one thing but not having a single materia would be a good reason for me to kick someone. At least the (usually) cheaper grad VI materia. But if they show up with nothing at all, I'm inclined to assume that their lack of effort isn't limited to gear.

The worst offender I've ever seen was a BLM on e8s in 500-510 gear, no materia and no buff food. Got one shot on every aoe without babysitter shields. Our side barely managed to get the adds down and only because we blew buffs we were supposed to hold for reopener. With 6 helpers with multiple clears it could've easily turned into a kill/ farm because it was practice from icelit onwards.
As expected, their lack of effort was not limited to gear ... they got booted after 2 or 3 pulls. Had I been lead, I would've instantly booted them. No excuse for that sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Rilifane

Not potting on cooldown is one thing but not having a single materia would be a good reason for me to kick someone. At least the (usually) cheaper grad VI materia.

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Nowadays endgame materia is so damn cheap, between extraction and lockboxes, that there is 0 excuse not to have the best one, no matter how poor you are.
I can't even imagine doing simple stuff like expert dungeons without materia, I can't imagine savage, where you need to even food up for stats.