Can we get a BLU level skip potion?

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Originally Posted by Jennah

I mean, it can take 3 hours 'exploiting' ... or like 5 hours not exploiting. And levelling is, like, 75% of BLU's content anyway.

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This. As soon as I got to 60 and got all the spells, it just started taking up space in my inventory. Only now w/ the Youkai Event that I'm getting used out of it again¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by MPK

Leveling a BLU from level 1-60 is tedious and clearly the majority of people who got to 60 in the first place just abused game mechanics.

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Majority? Do you have some stats you'd like to reference here to make that assertion? Something beyond anecdotal accounts?

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Originally Posted by MPK

That's not an argument. You're blatantly admitting to what is essentially bug abuse. This is not what the developers intended.

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So? Players do lots of things the developers don't intend. Most of the time a million people are better at figuring a game out than the 30 or so people in charge of developing it. It's just a matter of sheer numbers and it's nothing unusual in game development. The question becomes: is it cheating? Most of the time it isn't. The fact that SE is aware of this aspect of their leveling system and have done nothing about it suggests that it either isn't something they care about or isn't something they want to devote the time and money to correcting because the impact on the actual game is minimal.

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Originally Posted by MPK

I know no one in my FC or my friends FC does it legitimately. No one in my static did it legitimately either. Maybe it's an NA thing?

Edit: I legit no no one who leveled legitimately to 60.

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The two dozen or so people you're talking about are not a significant sample.

I leveled BLU while farming spells. I seem to remember the 1 - 50 stretch taking about a week of casual play and the 50 - 60 stretch taking probably a couple days. I'm sure if I'd really sat down and done it I could've done the whole thing in a few hours of just spell farming. So there you go, you now know at least one person that leveled without your "exploit," and where there's one there's probably more than one. That's the problem with making gross generalizations. Even a single contrary example totally counters your statement.

Why do we need a BLU level skip potion? It seriously takes no time at all if you're doing fates. Learning every spell is the potential time sink I recall running into as some spells appear to have a low learn chance rate.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Why do we need a BLU level skip potion? It seriously takes no time at all if you're doing fates. Learning every spell is the potential time sink I recall running into as some spells appear to have a low learn chance rate.

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Well, its the same reason people buy other job potions: to skip any time at all leveling it, no matter how trivial that time is.

I don't have a horse in this but have to raise an eyebrow at the collective "it doesn't take a lot of time/it's not hard" responses (which I agree with, btw). It's just that a skip is a skip, has nothing to do with the ease of what you can do.

Thing is though, seems like OP doesn't want to pot for time related reasons, judging from their adamant position on the "illegitimate" leveling methods for blu and given that this actually the first time on the forums I've seen a demand for blu pot job, methinks this is not a popular request that SE will consider.


But if it should happen...shrug and congrats?

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Well, its the same reason people buy other job potions: yo skip any time at all leveling it, no matter how trivial that time is.

I don't have a horse in this but have to raise an eyebrow at the collective "it doesn't take a lot of time/it's not hard" responses (which I agree with, btw). It's just that a skip is a skip, has nothing to do with the ease of what you can do.

Thing is though, seems like OP doesn't want to pot for time related reasons, judging from their adamant position on the "illegitimate" lvling methods for blu and given that this actually the first time on the forums I've seen a demand for blu pot job, methinks this is not a popular request that SE will consider.


But if it should happen...shrug and congrats?

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TBH the percentage of people that used that exploit was fairly small anyway because even then it wasn't really cutting out that much. As you mentioned it does seem like the OP's reasoning is more of they shouldn't have to level the job themselves because some other people used an exploit back when the job was new.

It's also possible this was all a trolling attempt as well looking at it in hindsight.

It is best to leave the leech trick as is because 'fixing' it would create an opening for abuse between players.

I wanna level Blu (ignore that I have it capped) so I tag a mob then a random Rdm kills it because it was their quest objective with the leech trick I still get exp, no harm no foul we both win, fixing the leech trick would make me lose that exp(even if you had exp scale off percentage dmg dealt you lose exp that you would normally get) and if said Rdm then wanted to troll me by killing everything I try to kill they can and they can hide behind ToS because no one owns overworld mobs and killing is fair game, you just can't reset them thus deleting contribution.

Some things are better left as they are the leech trick is one of those things.


I levelled Blu no Leech trick, took 4 hours of grinding, helped my friends via leech trick less than an hour each time people are happy to help just gotta ask.

The actual grind on BLU is learning skills.

Even solo you can easily do 1-60 in a day from killing same level enemies enmass.

Takes like 30min to get max level. No boosters needed

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Originally Posted by Krojack

SE stated when Blue came out that this was an exploit and unintended way to level up Blue. It was due to how the EXP system worked and would be fixed when 5.0 launched. They also went on to say that they would not punish anyone who used it though.

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So basically they're giving it the T2 treatment. People exploited Binding Coil T2 when it was relevant (the Enrage Strat), yet SE did nothing to the players who decided to do that strat and not the intended way the fight was meant to be done (dealing with Allagan Rot).

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

Yes, they said that's not how BLU was intended to be leveled are ashamed of anyone leveling that way. Then they went on to say they'll leave it like this until they can find a fix for it.

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They said it about job switching glitch afaik, not about leveling with friends without party, and as far as I can tell, that glitch apparently is already fixed.

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Originally Posted by MPK

Leveling a BLU from level 1-60 is tedious and clearly the majority of people who got to 60 in the first place just abused game mechanics.

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Oh GOD yes! Some of the most boring gameplay in the entire game. Why I stopped at level 15 or 16. I also wouldn't mind some crafting level skips too, so I can do the beast tribes. I know those are apparently easier to level, but so boring. :(

BLU leveling is just dumb, needs reworking instead of just slapping a band-aid fix on it.

But it only takes 30-40 minutes to go from 1-60... if you have your level 80 friends nearby. Took me around 20-30 minutes to go from 50-60 alone (without outside help).

work for it instead of begging for a handout

"Can we pay 12 dollars so we don't need to do an hours worth of playing the game"

Is this a joke?

the leveling experience is basically all the class HAS at present, unless you've got 3/7/23 other BLUs at gunpoint who are equally skilled and spell-equipped (since you certainly can't matchmake with them).

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Originally Posted by MPK

That's not an argument. You're blatantly admitting to what is essentially bug abuse. This is not what the developers intended.

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They fixed the ability for you to do this solo via job switching. If it was real abuse, it would be gone or reportable. But it isn't. It's how friends help other friends level normal jobs too to about 15 when the exp slows down, and you're able to start leveling in dungeons in the event PotD isn't unlocked.

But feel free to try and ask Yoshi-P himself on his thoughts. You have the ability to do so.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Oh GOD yes! Some of the most boring gameplay in the entire game. Why I stopped at level 15 or 16. I also wouldn't mind some crafting level skips too, so I can do the beast tribes. I know those are apparently easier to level, but so boring. :(

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Looks like someone else doesn't know about the power of friendship and Azys Lla.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Oh GOD yes! Some of the most boring gameplay in the entire game. Why I stopped at level 15 or 16. I also wouldn't mind some crafting level skips too, so I can do the beast tribes. I know those are apparently easier to level, but so boring. :(

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NGL Crafting is ridiculously easy to level and pretty quick now.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

NGL Crafting is ridiculously easy to level and pretty quick now.

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Firmament materials for lower levels are like 15gil each. You can go from 20 to 60 in like an hour, the time being taken up by actually crafting the dang things. And 1-20 in less time the moment you unlock quick synth. It's like people sit in their angry box and don't even try to learn things outside of it.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

NGL Crafting is ridiculously easy to level and pretty quick now.

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Don't get me started on the inventory management, and all this other nonsense. So many little rewards I can't get because I don't want to suffer! Like that namazu mount! Crafting even now is a lot of tedium, I'd rather not.

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Originally Posted by Gula

Firmament materials for lower levels are like 15gil each. You can go from 20 to 60 in like an hour, the time being taken up by actually crafting the dang things. And 1-20 in less time the moment you unlock quick synth. It's like people sit in their angry box and don't even try to learn things outside of it.

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I tried crafting once.. I was pure horror. I don't even have a second screen right now (my other monitor broke). Can you imagine crafting without a second screen?! I don't know how some of you people do it!

God blue mage too! Worthless "class"! But I wouldn't mind some of the achievements and rewards at the end.

I'd take a potion to forget about blue mage and remove it from my job list. .

Honestly leveling it is the easiest out of all the jobs, just spam your most OP skill, which for quite a while will just be one skill :rolleyes:, over and over and over for about 1 to 2 hours in high density areas. Grab a chocobo. Don't even need friends, faster with others though.

Leveled blue mage legitimately, saw that it's going to be mechanically incredibly spam and imo just bad design unless you go PF or charity via friend, watched some streams of it at 'peak', stopped at 58, as I realized they are probably seeing whenever I abuse it for the reward of an item (not because I like the job) as a tacit approval of the job. So I stopped touching it (even if there are some use cases). Want the seals or the quick moogle stones, so I considered it for that- but not as notice to SE that I think they did good. Which to be clear I rarely suggest they did bad, I'm not one to play a game I think is bad so I can bash it- in general the game is very good, most of my posts are either doing more of something good, new features for goof or fun, or even compliments, I however have very negative feelings to what they achieved, or lack there of, with blue. Unlike other content which I've no interest from the beginning so 'don't play it' is just fine in this case I had a clear and longterm interest with blue. Also not an issue of leveling either since I've leveled every single other job to cap and like all of them more than what they did with blue (DoW, DoM, DoH, DoL).

We had two dead months where there was practically NOTHING to do, why didn't they take advantage of that time to level up a Blue Mage? It took me a week and had a ton of fun (legally) and two weeks for all abilities.

The game have a lot of dead periods.

PD:, I levep up from 50 to 60 just doing dungeons and looking for skills.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Don't get me started on the inventory management, and all this other nonsense. So many little rewards I can't get because I don't want to suffer! Like that namazu mount! Crafting even now is a lot of tedium, I'd rather not.

I tried crafting once.. I was pure horror. I don't even have a second screen right now (my other monitor broke). Can you imagine crafting without a second screen?! I don't know how some of you people do it!

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It's almost like people enjoy different things.

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Originally Posted by Nayout

We had two dead months where there was practically NOTHING to do, why didn't they take advantage of that time to level up a Blue Mage? It took me a week and had a ton of fun (legally) and two weeks for all abilities.

The game have a lot of dead periods.

PD:, I levep up from 50 to 60 just doing dungeons and looking for skills.

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Because it's easier to sit on the forums and complain about the lack of content you want instead of experimenting and learning things outside of that comfort zone.

It won't happen simply because BLU is just side content. Its not a job used to do the MSQ and will never be up to the current content. It's simply something extra. Going and leveling your BLU is what you do when you either have nothing else to do or make that decision to do it regardless.

If people want to invest their money toward a quick boost as opposed to investing a handful of hours toward grinding it the usual way - I say let ‘em.

It’s not like it’ll equip em with all the spells. Plus a bit more money that can go toward the game won’t hurt.

Is it a silly decision? From my perspective - yeah - but seeing how limited the job is it won’t do any excessive harm.

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

If people want to invest their money toward a quick boost as opposed to investing a handful of hours toward grinding it the usual way - I say let ‘em.

It’s not like it’ll equip em with all the spells. Plus a bit more money that can go toward the game won’t hurt.

Is it a silly decision? From my perspective - yeah - but seeing how limited the job is it won’t do any excessive harm.

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You know I hadn't even considered that.

So you have BLU to 60. Cool. Now get in Coils and farm.

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Originally Posted by MPK

Leveling a BLU from level 1-60 is tedious and clearly the majority of people who got to 60 in the first place just abused game mechanics.

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It takes maybe an hour, tops. There's really not much content that the job offers beyond leveling so not sure what you'd stand to really gain from this.

Not cheating, or exploiting, it's using the tagging system.

You tag with flying sardine whiile being followed by a SCH, they shield you and kill it, since you have it tagged, you get the EXP and credit.

You can speed level any class this way to 60 and it's not really any different from being POTD/HOH carried.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Not cheating, or exploiting, it's using the tagging system.

You tag with flying sardine whiile being followed by a SCH, they shield you and kill it, since you have it tagged, you get the EXP and credit.

You can speed level any class this way to 60 and it's not really any different from being POTD/HOH carried.

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It's not even that complicated. Literally just tag it with Flying Sardine then have ANY other job with you (preferably ranged) kill it. I've helped level people while playing 80 DNC

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Originally Posted by OvernightSiren

It's not even that complicated. Literally just tag it with Flying Sardine then have ANY other job with you (preferably ranged) kill it. I've helped level people while playing 80 DNC

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True, SCH/AST shields are more a safety strat, especially if the job is 1-50 where they can be one shot if the mob in question attacks them, at 50+ they won't be one shot so it's more efficient to switch to a faster ranged class for the 80.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Not cheating, or exploiting, it's using the tagging system.

You tag with flying sardine whiile being followed by a SCH, they shield you and kill it, since you have it tagged, you get the EXP and credit.

You can speed level any class this way to 60 and it's not really any different from being POTD/HOH carried.

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Ever wondered why you dont get exp if the person is on your party? It's because there's system in place to prevent people from griefing via kill stilling which gives all exp to the first party that tagged it.

What half of the people in this thread is describing is exploiting a game mechanic. No one here actually levels their BLU the way the devs intended it to be leveled. Me included.

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Originally Posted by MPK

Ever wondered why you dont get exp if the person is on your party? It's because there's system in place to prevent people from griefing via kill stilling which gives all exp to the first party that tagged it.

It's exploiting a game mechanic

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So, because you don't like how the tagging system works and want SE to monetize it, you call it an exploit?

You sure you're not from the marketing department?'

P.S: They would have to overhaul the entire tagging system, which would open it up to higher level players trolling lower level players, because the higher level could just walk up and one shot stuff the lower level is farming and deny them EXP. Think about what you're asking for and the negative connotations first

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

So, because you don't like how the tagging system works and want SE to monetize it, you call it an exploit?

You sure you're not from the marketing department?

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Why would I hate something I benefited from? I'm just saying to give us the option to skip the grind all together.

IDC if the grind is 1 day or 1 hour just give me the option to skip it. I willingly want to pay 30 bucks to skip the grind all together. I never asked to patch the exploit did I?

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Originally Posted by MPK

Why would I hate something I benefited from? I'm just saying to give us the option to skip the grind all together.

IDC if the grind is 1 day or 1 hour just give me the option to skip it. I willingly want to pay 30 bucks to skip the grind all together. I never asked to patch the exploit did I?

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To call it an exploit rather than using the tagging system in it's intended fashion but beneficially is to raise it in a negative light, the word exploit is used to highlight something as "This is negative", rather than a better term would be, using the mechanics in a beneficial method, yet using potentially unintended side effects, which I don't think it is because SE would have patched that out years ago if it was unintended.

especially when the "answer" to the issue you're raising is monetization rather than I dunno, giving BLUs a better method of gaining exp quicker?

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

To call it an exploit rather than using the tagging system in it's intended fashion but beneficially is to raise it in a negative light, the word exploit is used to highlight something as "This is negative", rather than a better term would be, using the mechanics in a beneficial method, yet using potentially unintended side effects, which I don't think it is because SE would have patched that out years ago if it was unintended.

especially when the "answer" to the issue you're raising is monetization rather than I dunno, giving BLUs a better method of gaining exp quicker?

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You're literally exploiting a mechanic that's not intended to be used that way otherwise you should be able to get exp if the other person is in your party. As I said before, it's an anti griefing mechanic.

There is no `issue` I just want to skip 1-60 like how i can skip 1-70 on any other job.

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Originally Posted by MPK

You're literally exploiting a mechanic that's not intended to be used that way otherwise you should be able to get exp if the other person is in your party.

There is no `issue` I just want to skip 1-60 like how i can skip 1-70 on any other job.

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So, yes, you do want it nerfed to monetize it, hence why you're still using the word Exploit when SE has made no comment for or against the strategy when it's been around for a while and could've been patched out ages ago.

Edit: And yes, I can see that's what you're doing as you aren't offering up other solutions to increase the speed of the BLU leveling process, i.e access to DD/HoH/Roulettes.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

So, yes, you do want it nerfed to monetize it, hence why you're still using the word Exploit when SE has made no comment for or against the strategy when it's been around for a while and could've been patched out ages ago.

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When did I ever ask for it to be nerfed? Exploit is the right word to use here. There's no need to sugar coat it. It's same as slide casting, it's a bug, but it's hard to fix or there's no good solutions and not worth it to patch.

I just want to skip 1-60

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Originally Posted by MPK

When did I ever ask for it to be monetized? Exploit is the right word to use here. There's no need to sugar coat it. It's same as slide casting, it's a bug, but it's hard and not worth it to patch.

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If it isn't patched out but known and no intention of being patched out, it's no longer called an exploit but a "Feature"

Asking for them to put in a leveling potion while constantly saying "It's an exploit" is a call for monetization in place of the strategy.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

If it isn't patched out but known and no intention of being patched out, it's no longer called an exploit but a "Feature"

Asking for them to put in a leveling potion while constantly saying "It's an exploit" is a call for monetization in place of the strategy.

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I don't think you know what the verb` exploit` means. You're literally taking advantage of something that's unintended. You can sugarcoat it however you want but at the end of the day it's an unintended `feature` aka a bug.

All I'm asking for is a potion to skip level 1-60.

Wow I'm amazed. Past page has been just us 2 defining what an exploit is.