During Yokai watch event, make fate bosses immune to Doom please

My biggest complaint really, is being forced to do all of the story up through Stormblood. I was saving the story for when I had more time to play so I could enjoy it fully. It really sucks that I cant do the full event without having to completely change my plans. :(

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

If Doom is allowed to function this way during that event then the grind will likely be very painful. I hope that they address this before the event begins.

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Already have FC members saying it's insane with BLU doing the event and killing everything in one smack with Dragon Voice. Not caring who else is there. Yeah, I'm going to wait a while and see what happens.

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Originally Posted by MeganLynn

My biggest complaint really, is being forced to do all of the story up through Stormblood. I was saving the story for when I had more time to play so I could enjoy it fully. It really sucks that I cant do the full event without having to completely change my plans. :(

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The event will be here until November, at least.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Already have FC members saying it's insane with BLU doing the event and killing everything in one smack with Dragon Voice. Not caring who else is there. Yeah, I'm going to wait a while and see what happens.

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It wasn't too particularly bad in the HW and SB areas even with BLUs there (I specificly went to Azys Lla, the Hinterlands, and The Lochs so they were the max levels possible) but I can't imagine how chaotic the ARR areas are going to be during prime time tonight.

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Originally Posted by Infindox

It wasn't too particularly bad in the HW and SB areas even with BLUs there (I specificly went to Azys Lla, the Hinterlands, and The Lochs so they were the max levels possible) but I can't imagine how chaotic the ARR areas are going to be during prime time tonight.

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Yeah, during my grind in the Churning Mists it actually wasn't too bad. Plenty of BLUs but still plenty of opportunity to get credit for every fate. I'm not really looking forward to doing ARR areas for other weapons. lol Apparently there's a fair amount of salt being thrown about. They have SE to thank for that. I'll finish my Stormblood fate grind before returning to ARR regardless. I'm definitely dreading it though to say the least.

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Originally Posted by MeganLynn

My biggest complaint really, is being forced to do all of the story up through Stormblood. I was saving the story for when I had more time to play so I could enjoy it fully. It really sucks that I cant do the full event without having to completely change my plans. :(

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New Game +

https://i.redd.it/x4uargvwq0i51.png

This event is one of the few times BLU will ever be useful in the open world. Please don't take that from me.

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

Hey with doom you at least have 10 seconds to build up credit where as tail skrew just zerges the fate in 1 go.

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

The speed with which doom completes boss fates has no comparison to a regular job doing the same Fate. It might only apply to Fates from HW on, but I remember Fates adjusted to how many people did that Fate previously, so it would take longer next time after 10+ people finished it the first time. I'll need to check later today if the 2.0 Fates adjust to how many people are doing them or not. If they don't that's very inconsistent of the devs and they should correct it, the tools to change it exist.

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I don't think either of you have actually seen the damage being done right now. You have parties (and that's plural) of DNC, MCH and GNB all mashing bosses into paste. There is no 10 second count with or without BLU. Maybe your worlds are respectively dead but from what I've been witnessing on Primal, you see a FATE, and you better hope you don't lag because by the time you mount up and fly to it, it's gone.

Perhaps they should add chests to the acquisition structure, an option at least while things are non-ideal for FATEs due to it being a hot content. Plus it might cause a spike in purchases which would lead to a bit of a Gil sink. May think of level or beast quests too.


Still open world but far less melty. Make the rates a bit more ideal for FATEs but the side options not terrible choices if you were just not wanting to deal with that noise (plus there are other benefits to the other choices, potentially at least).

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

Hey with doom you at least have 10 seconds to build up credit where as tail skrew just zerges the fate in 1 go.

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Personally more a fan of Missile. Seems to hit more often. Plus, it's almost kinda the more considerate option. I can't actually kill anything with Missile.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Personally more a fan of Missile. Seems to hit more often. Plus, it's almost kinda the more considerate option. I can't actually kill anything with Missile.

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Missile's success ratio is like 2 or 3 times that of tail skrew and doom. Also 1 use of it in a boss fate is usually instant gold unless the mob is sub 20% or something already.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Title. Doom works on a LOT of fate bosses. Original event had you killing mass amounts of fates. Doom works on fate bosses. I've killed Gorgimera solo before as blue mage.

Edit: And just another tidbit, if they make the fate bosses immune to doom, they'd also be immune to tail screw, Missle, and Launcher as well due to them all sharing the same resistance.

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And now the event is underway. I propose a new name for the Blue Mage, no longer is it the Blue Mage, no from this day forward I shall refer to that Job as Troll Mage.

https://i.imgur.com/XAAxtSh.png

I have a better idea! SE should stop making limited jobs that everyone has some kind of problem with and upgrade BLU to full job status :o

I'm now going to slot Water Cannon and Protean Wave just so I can spray salt at everyone.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I'm now going to slot Water Cannon and Protean Wave just so I can spray salt at everyone.

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Don't forget bubble bath and bad breath

BLU is supposed to be this amazingly overpowered job that can effectively solo lots of encounters.

Doom, tail screw, missile, launcher all fulfill that job fantasy.

So no, don't take them away.

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I don't think either of you have actually seen the damage being done right now. You have parties (and that's plural) of DNC, MCH and GNB all mashing bosses into paste. There is no 10 second count with or without BLU. Maybe your worlds are respectively dead but from what I've been witnessing on Primal, you see a FATE, and you better hope you don't lag because by the time you mount up and fly to it, it's gone.

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Yeah, I was running around some on blue mage for it having access to AE's in lower level zones, but nothing over 1s cast time is ever going to land on anything anyway.

While swift + 1hp is fun on boss fates that have absurd HP scaling, its basically the only time its fun.

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Originally Posted by Tabbs

I have a better idea! SE should stop making limited jobs that everyone has some kind of problem with and upgrade BLU to full job status :o

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That would be a downgrade. They only call it limited so those that don't get it won't get jealous.

If I can't Provoke FATE targets as a tank, there is absolutely no reason for them to be vulnerable to Doom. Signed.

You guys trying to defend it know full well that this is broken. Go play with your cheaty BLU toys on your own time and in your own instanced content, not in shared public content.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Go play with your cheaty BLU toys on your own time and in your own instanced content, not in shared public content.

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This is the problem though. No one uses BLU once they finish leveling it. These fates are the 1 and a million chance to enjoy it as battle content.

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Originally Posted by Tabbs

This is the problem though. No one uses BLU once they finish leveling it. These fates are the 1 and a million chance to enjoy it as battle content.

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And this is how they will justify BLU continue to say BLU is a "success" because people are using it again and implement more limited jobs that could have been real jobs...

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Originally Posted by Shadowshinra

And this is how they will justify BLU continue to say BLU is a "success" because people are using it again and implement more limited jobs that could have been real jobs...

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Please say sike...

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Originally Posted by Tabbs

This is the problem though. No one uses BLU once they finish leveling it. These fates are the 1 and a million chance to enjoy it as battle content.

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News to me. On Aether it's pretty common to see log and learning parties in PF. Granted not as common as the first month of the 5.1.5 update (over 9 months ago), but still surprisingly frequent. And then in May a sudden uptick thanks to the Moogle treasure trove event and once again with the Yokai collab.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

If I can't Provoke FATE targets as a tank, there is absolutely no reason for them to be vulnerable to Doom. Signed.

You guys trying to defend it know full well that this is broken. Go play with your cheaty BLU toys on your own time and in your own instanced content, not in shared public content.

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Comments like yours make me want to start using missile to see some people cry lul

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Originally Posted by Auryan

News to me. On Aether it's pretty common to see log and learning parties in PF. Granted not as common as the first month of the 5.1.5 update (over 9 months ago), but still surprisingly frequent. And then in May a sudden uptick thanks to the Moogle treasure trove event and once again with the Yokai collab.

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Same deal on Crystal, too. BLU might not be my cup of tea but I wouldn't really call it dead by any means.

Imagine being a new player still in arr trying to participate with this:
https://i.imgur.com/BM3p1BO.gif
This kind of one(ish)shotting important event mobs, preventing others from getting credit so harshly, would be considered griefing in other mmos.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Imagine being a new player still in arr trying to participate with this:
https://i.imgur.com/BM3p1BO.gif
This kind of one(ish)shotting important event mobs, preventing others from getting credit so harshly, would be considered griefing in other mmos.

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Agreed. Not acceptable to me. That's being selfish and we are in a mmorpg.

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Originally Posted by Tabbs

This is the problem though. No one uses BLU once they finish leveling it. These fates are the 1 and a million chance to enjoy it as battle content.

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You can enjoy it without killing it in 1 shot. Why are people so selfish? Helping and participating. We are in a mmorpg, not a single player. It's the devs who gave us blue mage of course but let's at least be mature and nice toward each other. Everyone want credit too and participate.

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This is the problem though. No one uses BLU once they finish leveling it. These fates are the 1 and a million chance to enjoy it as battle content.

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Which is fine and dandy until it starts interfering with the experiences of others trying to do an event, which Dooming or otherwise instakilling FATE bosses (that were definitely not intended to be instakillable, and don't even try to suggest otherwise) absolutely does.

Also, let's just totally ignore the fact they bothered to add a whole set of achievements, titles, and a mount specifically designed around completing 50/60 EX/raids with BLU parties, I guess. Maybe that isn't everyone's cup of tea, which is fair, but it is billed as a limited job for a reason.

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Comments like yours make me want to start using missile to see some people cry lul

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Personally I don't give a rat's ass. I already finished the 4 new weapons and the new mount today in about 3 hours.

Comments like yours, though, indicate that this is a matter that needs addressing. As far as I'm concerned, people going around intentionally instakilling FATE bosses to be jerks shouldn't be treated any differently from people who intentionally leash hunt mobs over and over to reset them and keep them from being killed. Both are guilty of open world content griefing, and both should be dealt with in the same manner (at least until proper immunities can be applied to these mobs, as it apparently is for post-50 FATEs).

I'm against using Missile/Lawnchair/Doom/Screw on the Boss FATEs, but that Deep Freeze nonsense looks amusing and I might go do that when I get bored of gathering and there aren't many people at that FATE.

On the subject as a whole, far as boss FATEs are concerned, I do think it's pretty dumb that the ARR ones haven't gotten the resistance to percentage blasts, but Devs probably weren't thinking ahead. (Yet they still went to the process of enabling flight to ARR areas. Strange, isn't it?)

If you're going to FATEs and you're playing Blue, just don't use your "I can chunk/insta kill this thing." spells. If you wanna use your high potency nonsense AoEs then I'm fine with that. Let the sprouts enjoy the Spanish Inquisition spewing lasers; it'll give 'em a nice light show at least.

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

You can enjoy it without killing it in 1 shot. Why are people so selfish? Helping and participating. We are in a mmorpg, not a single player. It's the devs who gave us blue mage of course but let's at least be mature and nice toward each other. Everyone want credit too and participate.

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I'm just dying by the irony that they made blue mage in such a fashion because they said they couldn't balanced it for party content otherwise, still balanced it slightly for PF content, and still have issues because of their decisions (where they have to either further balance the job they said they didn't want to balance, or just deal with it messing up other players experiences).

At this point I might be loving to loathe this variant of blue mage. Dislike what they did with it, and they can't even do what they wanted to do with it issues anyways.

Just slap me a white auracite and call me Emet.

O love the event but it could be improved. Take out the one shot or spam abilities to hit multiple, keep the chocobos out, and make the move slightly tougher to at least have a chance to hit something.

New players doing this or people arms farming must be pulling their hair out right now.

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Originally Posted by DBriggs304

O love the event but it could be improved. Take out the one shot or spam abilities to hit multiple, keep the chocobos out, and make the move slightly tougher to at least have a chance to hit something.

New players doing this or people arms farming must be pulling their hair out right now.

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Atma not arms farming. I hate autocorrect

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

You can enjoy it without killing it in 1 shot. Why are people so selfish? Helping and participating. We are in a mmorpg, not a single player. It's the devs who gave us blue mage of course but let's at least be mature and nice toward each other. Everyone want credit too and participate.

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Tell that to whoever is killing it in one shot? I was talking to someone who thinks BLU should be banned from the content entirely.

BLU being able to oneshot and mess up FATES for other players is misdirected karma for how poorly they were implemented and treated. I wish Square would own up to their mistakes and actually take the time to balance and work it in as a legitimate class. It's probably my favorite class in the series, so I'm admittedly biased. But it still sucks to see it treated that way and then see how the way they chose to implemented can mess things up like this.

Using instakill/gravity effects on boss FATEs is kind of rude when you can get gold pretty much instantly by using Mighty Guard and tapping the boss with a few primal abilities or better yet just healing yourself with White Wind.

This is absolutely hilarious.

Don't blame players for looking for a quick/efficient way to do something, blame the devs.

As Cid Meier has said, it's the developers job to protect the players from themselves.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Comments like yours, though, indicate that this is a matter that needs addressing. As far as I'm concerned, people going around intentionally instakilling FATE bosses to be jerks shouldn't be treated any differently from people who intentionally leash hunt mobs over and over to reset them and keep them from being killed. Both are guilty of open world content griefing, and both should be dealt with in the same manner (at least until proper immunities can be applied to these mobs, as it apparently is for post-50 FATEs).

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Eh, I don't think they need to be punished for utilizing the tools they have available. However, this might be something that SE should remember for all future Fate based content in the open world and perhaps make some adjustments ahead of time.

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Eh, I don't think they need to be punished for utilizing the tools they have available.

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Running away to leash hunt mobs is a tool everyone has available, too.

I'm not talking about the people who do this once or twice, maybe by accident or just to see if it works. I'm talking about the people who consistently do it over and over specifically to troll.