No new Deep Dungeon in Shadowbringers?

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Overreaction = emotions that I feel about the game I love and see failing over and over,

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Yet the game is in the best state, player wise, it has ever been.

THIS is what people say when you overeact, son.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Dont worry, while people like minion boy exists, they can do it freely. "It will be better in the next patch/expansion" "They'll fix it" "Another type of content will be good" "you don't know yet" big hello from WoW. Overreaction = emotions that I feel about the game I love and see failing over and over, giving us less PVE and more casual content year by year. Well, seems like players like me, who's not much interested in living in the game, but rather playing it has to wait Blue Protocol or something.

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Wow, someone out there in the cosmos who actually has the same views as me about this game!?

But now I'm by far more excited for 5.3 just to see if this new content flops incredibly, or is hilariously stupendous.

Wow, Yoshida really likes to dig holes for himself.

Now whatever this 'ranch' turns out to be, it's already doomed to be drowned in complaints comparing it to Deep Dungeon. I'm expecting something like the Mog Garden from FFXI, which is like one little area you do some daily login type stuff in. When put side by side with Deep Dungeons it'll probably feel like we lost more than we gained.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

Might be a funky translation, sounds like a farm? Maybe something to do with minions again?

He says he's been talking about it for a long time but I've never heard anything like that, maybe he means internally.

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Remember when Yoshi-P said there would be a farming like settlement mechanic back during the Keynote for 5.0? I feel like this is related in some kind of way as part of their "lifestyle" gameplay push.

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Originally Posted by Razard

And I hope that you are ready to eat vast amounts of crow.

To clarify, because you haven't picked it up yet, I am in the "wait and see" camp. Was that simple enough for you?

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I seen enough from this company and dont have patience and any hope like you do. So maybe its my choice to react on news like I want, without you playing advocate? But no, minion boy wanted to say something, and people like you will continue this when they release this abomination. If it's another casual crap, you will tolerate it anyways.

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Originally Posted by Noitems

Remember when Yoshi-P said there would be a farming like settlement mechanic back during the Keynote for 5.0? I feel like this is related in some kind of way as part of their "lifestyle" gameplay push.

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Could be! Feels a bit strange to mention on a question about DD though? Unless he was explaining we couldn't do X because we did Y.

Hopefully an official translation is out soon so we know what type of 'farming' to expect lol

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

I seen enough from this company and dont have patience and any hope like you do. So maybe its my choice to react on news like I want, without you playing advocate? But no, minion boy wanted to say something, and people like you will continue this when they release this abomination. If it's another casual crap, you will tolerate it anyways.

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Vote with your dollars and unsubscribe, Chicken Little. That'll teach 'em.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

I seen enough from this company and dont have patience and any hope like you do. So maybe its my choice to react on news like I want, without you playing advocate? But no, minion boy wanted to say something, and people like you will continue this when they release this abomination. If it's another casual crap, you will tolerate it anyways.

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What's the problem with that? Deep dungeons are casual content too. People complained heaven on high was too similar. They'd just do it again. It's already easy to level jobs.


Nothing wrong with enjoying casual content while also doing the harder things the game offers.

I'm also facepalming because at first I read "a lot of content mainly for levelling" and instead it's "for living". So yeah, it really sounds like Farmville instead of PvE.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

What's the problem with that? Deep dungeons are casual content too. People complained heaven on high was too similar. They'd just do it again. It's already easy to level jobs.


Nothing wrong with enjoying casual content while also doing the harder things the game offers.

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Now that'd be too simple and he couldn't act like a child. He has to scream at the top of his lungs and stamp his feet.

God for bid we try changing things up once in a while.

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Originally Posted by gman1311

God for bid we try changing things up once in a while.

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How about they scrap content you like instead?

Like everyone you complain when your toy is taken away but when its someone else toys its okay.

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Originally Posted by hasana

How about they scrap content you like instead?

Like everyone you complain when your toy is taken away but when its someone else toys its okay.

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he likes when deities are auctioned, apparently.

I don't mind replacing deep dungeons if they just going to be more of the same. The loss of regular dungeons bothered me more. However I feel like the deep dungeon concept had a lot of potential, and that's also taken away if they're not going to focus on this kind of content. I'm also surprised that of all the things to be cut deep dungeons would be one of them. PoTD and HoH are pretty similar, unless FF14 is designed in such a way that makes templating content really hard adding a third iteration shouldn't take that much in terms of resources. If they were really stretched thin, why not just make advanced versions of the first two with a higher level cap and a couple of unique additions?

Maybe itll be Final Fantasy Harvest moon :>

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

I seen enough from this company and dont have patience and any hope like you do. So maybe its my choice to react on news like I want, without you playing advocate? But no, minion boy wanted to say something, and people like you will continue this when they release this abomination. If it's another casual crap, you will tolerate it anyways.

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Implying that Deep Dungeon was anything but "Casual Crap" ouside the upper floors. If it turns out to be bad, I'll be all there with you. But until we know more I'm going to be on the side of "Cautiously hopeful.

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Originally Posted by hasana

How about they scrap content you like instead?

Like everyone you complain when your toy is taken away but when its someone else toys its okay.

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Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know they where deleteing HoH and PotD from the game. Must be a glitch with my version of Google Translate.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

I seen enough from this company and dont have patience and any hope like you do. So maybe its my choice to react on news like I want, without you playing advocate? But no, minion boy wanted to say something, and people like you will continue this when they release this abomination. If it's another casual crap, you will tolerate it anyways.

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You can always UN-subscribe
If your decision is permanent, please do the people a favor on Zodiark if you have a house tho if that is the action you would like to take over a piece of content.

i have all the minions so i want them all released at once in a minion farm yasssssssssssssssss see them all frolicking about. hehe

Thank god.
DD was the most boring piece of content ever.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Thank god.
DD was the most boring piece of content ever.

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I feel the same, when HoH came out I wasn’t overly impressed.

I"m a bit surprised. I figured with the skeleton there from POTD and HOH it'd be fairly easy to reuse the same system again with a couple new gimmicks and a new visual aesthetic. I guess we'll see what if anything comes instead.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

Okay, I think you need to have a cup of Tension Tamer tea and find your reading glasses because that's not at all what I said.

Have a lovely day.

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Lols nice to see a fellow coco puff.

I'm sorry, but Deep Dungeons are repetitive and boring. I'd rather see what this 'ranch' thing is about. Something new would be appreciated.

Just for the record, I put a question mark in the title for a reason. I'm also interpreting it as they're trying a new type of content instead of DD this time, but it's of course possible they're just pushing it back to a later patch in the expansion.

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Originally Posted by Liale

Lols nice to see a fellow coco puff.

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We're everywhere!

Fine by me, to be honest. I find Deep Dungeon-style of content to be mind-numbing. Curious to see what they do instead.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

i have all the minions so i want them all released at once in a minion farm yasssssssssssssssss see them all frolicking about. hehe

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LOL!! And make them all interact with each other. I can see it now.. Wind-up Namazu gets fried by wind-up Ifrit and then snacked on by Fat Cat.

I just have a sense of dread whenever they talk about some brand new amazing content they want to try out. Don't get me wrong...I want to believe. But.. then I remember Diadem, Verminion, Eureka..and I'm super hesitant. Of course that's not to say that all new content they've tried is terrible. I really liked HoH over POTD. I enjoy the Azim Steppe PVP and doing hunts. I freaking love Trusts because they let me try out a dungeon at my own pace and learn the fights before doing them with others. Just... when I hear "we're going to try out this ranch thing"... I'm all [cries in Diadem].

I wish they could've just expanded HoH for level 70+.
DDs are amazing for leveling DPS classes.

If this is what it seems to be, I am a little disappointed but am a little hopeful that by the time they do get around to doing another one it will be a better experience. Not that PotD and HoH were necessarily bad but it really feels like they pretty much did everything they could with them given the system they were working with. While I'd like another Deep Dungeon I'm not sure just making PotD/HoH again with a new coat of paint would really be all that welcome to me.

How many People actually still do Deep Dungeon?

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Remember when they took one dungeon to make "other" content? Now we're in short of another PVE content for another casual crap. We're not even getting new "Eureka" until 5.3.xx. UMBRELLAS and NEW STUFF FOR GPOSE surely was worth it. But hey, LeTS PrETeND TheY MaKiNG NeW TyPe of PVE content, which they don't. My ass just blown away into oblivion. Why do we even need any PVE content in game, just make 4 new arenas for Lord of Verminion or something.
And another wasted opportunity to upgrade a content, make it interesting with a great rewards.

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To be fair, that dungeon essentially gave us a second trial connected to the relic. It's supposed to be at EX difficulty levels. If it pans out well, I'm fine with that trade off given how boring dungeons generally are. That being said, I'm more than a tad nervous they're taking too many gambles here. If we get something like 4.5 Blue Mage, 5.3 will feel incredibly hollow.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Yeah, better stay silent and be happy with everything they give us, enjoy your minion farm.

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Dude. You need to chill. Many of us are extremely skeptical right now but getting your mammaries up when we have no concrete information does nothing. We can't criticise what we don't know. Put it this way, if they do announce some silly farm or garden mini-game to replace DD, you can be assured there will be many people screaming at how dumb a decision this was. But lets wait until we have some information to go with being losing our minds.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

What the hell is ranch-like play?

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Beastmaster comes to mind. They did mention it as a potential Limited Job...

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

To be fair, that dungeon essentially gave us a second trial connected to the relic. It's supposed to be at EX difficulty levels. If it pans out well, I'm fine with that trade off given how boring dungeons generally are. That being said, I'm more than a tad nervous they're taking too many gambles here. If we get something like 4.5 Blue Mage, 5.3 will feel incredibly hollow.



Dude. You need to chill. Many of us are extremely skeptical right now but getting your mammaries up when we have no concrete information does nothing. We can't criticise what we don't know. Put it this way, if they do announce some silly farm or garden mini-game to replace DD, you can be assured there will be many people screaming at how dumb a decision this was. But lets wait until we have some information to go with being losing our minds.



Beastmaster comes to mind. They did mention it as a potential Limited Job...

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I'll take a new ex level trial over a snore fest dgn any day.
I also think beastmaster would work better as a limited job. So I want that to happen.

Their cited reason - running out of resources - is a bit concerning, but it depends on what they're currently allocating resources towards, in the end. The ARR consolidation, due to come in 5.3, is probably proving especially taxing. Honestly waiting to see what 6.0 will bring, but if it's void of any decent new content/features I'm going to re-consider if it's worth even staying subbed to the game. Whilst I scarcely care about deep dungeons, I also don't hugely care about "lifestyle" content or more "limited jobs".

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

How many People actually still do Deep Dungeon?

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Not sure if there's a way to get exact numbers, but I get asked about doing runs often enough I've got two of my alts ready to do potd clear runs now, since I don't have anything else to spend the pumpkins/firecrests on on my main. I know a lot of people that were dying for a new deep dungeon, and we're disappointed about this.

The ranch style thing they're making could be great content, whatever it turns out to be. But some of us were looking forward climbing up/down/sideways in a new area.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

To be fair, that dungeon essentially gave us a second trial connected to the relic. It's supposed to be at EX difficulty levels. If it pans out well, I'm fine with that trade off given how boring dungeons generally are. That being said, I'm more than a tad nervous they're taking too many gambles here. If we get something like 4.5 Blue Mage, 5.3 will feel incredibly hollow.

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Is it actually tied to the relic, though? The recent Dengeki Online interview really makes it sound like they're focusing on a "solo friendly" relic, this time around.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Is it actually tied to the relic, though? The recent Dengeki Online interview really makes it sound like they're focusing on a "solo friendly" relic, this time around.

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They said in LL the trial is related to the relic.

I'm disappointed by this news as I've had a lot of fun over the years doing potd floor 200 and hoh floor 100 runs with friends and we were looking forward to having a new one to run. I hope the new content they are trying turns out to be fun.

Yeah I hate deep dungeon as content so I wont personally miss it, but I feel bad for people who were looking forward to it. I felt the same way when they said they were taking another dungeon away since that's some of my favorite content. </3

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

They said in LL the trial is related to the relic.

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i heard it was solo for the relic but it will have 8 man ex difficulate as well

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Remember when they took one dungeon to make "other" content? Now we're in short of another PVE content for another casual crap. We're not even getting new "Eureka" until 5.3.xx. UMBRELLAS and NEW STUFF FOR GPOSE surely was worth it. But hey, LeTS PrETeND TheY MaKiNG NeW TyPe of PVE content, which they don't. My ass just blown away into oblivion. Why do we even need any PVE content in game, just make 4 new arenas for Lord of Verminion or something.
And another wasted opportunity to upgrade a content, make it interesting with a great rewards.

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no swearing pls watch ur tongue young man but ur right they deleted a dungeon to make umbrellas crazy world we live in today