Trust system vs Squadron. Both sound great, whats the difference?

I hate and love both.
Squadrons can be levelled outside of dungeons, do more than just dungeons, are comstumizable, and the few dungeons they do well (the not too mechanics-heavy ones are really nice with them.
Trusts are great the first run through, but levelling them is a horrible nightmare and I'm honestly giving up on that, at least for now. And they're not customizable at all. They don't make you facepalm as much as squadrons, but they also do stupid things cause AI.
And yeah, I think the most important thing of both is not so much the skipped queue and pug, but the ability to be able to practice your skills in comfort and learn your class well, as well as learning the dungeon mechanics perfectly, both things that don't happen as much in a PUG.

I'd honestly want a mix of the two.

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Originally Posted by Brynne

Yes, this. I'd love to do dungeons together with my husband and just fill the remaining spots with my story NPCs rather than pick up randoms in the queue or try to recruit friends when we just wanted a quiet evening of gaming together. Apparently it's "which trust belongs to which player" that makes it such a nightmare to program, but maybe they could solve that by defaulting to the party lead? It'd be nice if they could figure something out, anyway.

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You are missing the point of any MMORPG here, lad. Many modern single-player games do have an optional co-op mode for this reason. Perhaps this would be a better suited type of game for you.

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Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

You are missing the point of any MMORPG here, lad. Many modern single-player games do have an optional co-op mode for this reason. Perhaps this would be a better suited type of game for you.

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This is what we're already doing when we want a quiet evening of gaming together, so I agree (DOS2 is the current favorite). However, it'd be nice to get some progress in FFXIV together on one of those nights. It's just a wish, not a criticism. The game already has many things you can do solo. I'd like more duo and trio options, that's all.

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Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

You are missing the point of any MMORPG here, lad. Many modern single-player games do have an optional co-op mode for this reason. Perhaps this would be a better suited type of game for you.

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"The sort of fun you're having is the wrong sort of fun to be having in this game, you need to stop immediately and go have fun in another, more appropriate game!"

The 'point' of any MMORPG, boy, is that whatever a individual player decides it is. You don't get to decide for them, even if you consider yourself the MMORPope, or whatever.

The order to attack button from squadrons, would be really handy with the trusts.....

I mean facepulling mobs so thancred will attack is fun and all but..............

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Originally Posted by KatieConnr

The order to attack button from squadrons, would be really handy with the trusts.....

I mean facepulling mobs so thancred will attack is fun and all but..............

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You don't have to face pull. Just get close enough that they don't register you, but Thancred registers them. He'll leap in before they target you.

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Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

You are missing the point of any MMORPG here, lad. Many modern single-player games do have an optional co-op mode for this reason. Perhaps this would be a better suited type of game for you.

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let me break it down letter by letter, word by word

Massive - large game with many people
Multiplayer - playing in the same world with multiple players
Online - over the internet
Role - playing a character
Playing - duh
Game - a video game

NOTHING in that says "forced to play with other players" or "has to play with other players". the idea that you are forced to play with other players is a thankfully dead notion in MMORPGs.

Getting kinda worked up over that, are we? Relax.

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Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

Getting kinda worked up over that, are we? Relax.

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just trying to help you overcome your ignorance.

You're welcome!

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Originally Posted by Vulcann

all i want is for my trusts to be able to do Deep Dungeons with me.

and maybe allow me to queue trust dungeons with my wife and two AI.

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I agree. Have squadrons at least do PotD with me & Trust to do HOH. That would be great. Help with that leveling 61 - 69 gap.