[Request] Please remove the daily post limit!

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

Same reason crime still happens despite having laws and police lol.

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Except the cap limit does its job. Funny how that works.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

There's also an ignore function, so the power to ignore specific posters is literally there for those who want to make use of it.

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The ignore function does nothing.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Except the cap limit does its job. Funny how that works.



The ignore function does nothing.

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Pretty much, I had someone yelling at me for posting in their thread when they had me ignored lol. I was even being helpful, and had answered their question. But no, got yelled at, and they did t even read my posts, just saw "this person you ignored has posted in your thread"

The best part was they never said /who/ they had on ignore, just expected you to know who it was and that they had you on ignore. It was pretty funny.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

There have been requests to remove the post limit going all the way back to 2015. The supposed reason for the post limit was due to 1.0's horrible launch and state of the game and how the forums were being flooded with posts about it. This is obviously no longer the case, but they've never removed the post limit.

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Problem: Exists.
Scapegoat: 1.x. Or elitists. Take your pick.

This is a public forum, and people shouldn't be dictating whether an ignored person or not can post in "their" thread.

I can't even post on the FF reddit, because I have too many downvotes, so this is like my FF spot. I do not see why just because 20 posts every 24 hours is enough for one person, that it is enough for another, nor should they be allowed to dictate that either. The post limit is arbitrary and needs to be increased, or removed entirely.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Problem: Exists.
Scapegoat: 1.x. Or elitists. Take your pick.

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You forgot the -insert console name- limitations.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

You're entitled to your opinion. Sorry but 20 is more than enough in my view. We aren't in an age where we need people to spam forums with their point of view. State your position and live with it. Having to respond to every reply isn't necessary.

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You mean the very thing you're doing here?

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Isn't that the same reason we have police and laws? Hm...

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Um... are you being serious?

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Originally Posted by ErryK

And yet I still see trolls dwelling on the forums. Daily cap helps mitigate that. :)

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It really doesn't.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Don't worry! I usually don't read your posts because they are too long!

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Me too sometimes. I joke all the time by saying I can't read (this may or may not be true lol.) but mostly my attention span is of a chicken nugget and me reading novels of things like make me cry lol.
Gonna have to tldr it sometimes to me amigo lol.

I'm all for the removal of the daily limit AND the obligation to have an active playtime on our account to post on the forum !

I am fine with a daily post limit because there times where people need that break to maybe cool of a little bit. I am also for having a limit on how often you can make threads.

But I would love if they lifted the words limit with each post because you can bypass that anyways, so its nothing but a minor annoyance anyways.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Problem: Exists.
Scapegoat: 1.x. Or elitists. Take your pick.

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The launch was horrible though. I was in closed beta. Many of us could not even download the client, and there was mass rage over this.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Whenever I do make long and well thought-out posts, people tend to not read them. So............

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LOL. All those novels you wrote in that "optimal rotations" thread, were all read by me XD. It may look like no one does because you get no direct reply to it, but this is something I've learned over the years - people don't know what to say to well thought out long posts. There is nothing to add to it, kind of letting it have its moment.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

You mean the very thing you're doing here?

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Yes responding to frivolous posts like this one is a perfect example of why the limit should stay at 20. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to illustrate my point.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Yes responding to frivolous posts like this one is a perfect example of why the limit should stay at 20. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to illustrate my point.

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Your point boils downs to pettiness ("I don't want to see people I dislike being able to post more") and lack of self-control ("I'd go and reply to every post directed at me, if I had the chance to"), making you a bad example and a fringe of the population, therefore your point is ill fit to apply to everyone else.

Just because you don't want to see X user posting more and couldn't stop responding to people, doesn't mean everyone should be limited. Besides I've seen too many good discussions stiffled because one of the people ran out of daily posts. Not every thread is a debate where you only need one post to make your stand.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Yes responding to frivolous posts like this one is a perfect example of why the limit should stay at 20. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to illustrate my point.

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I do hope you see the irony in your behavior at least.

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

LOL. All those novels you wrote in that "optimal rotations" thread, were all read by me XD. It may look like no one does because you get no direct reply to it, but this is something I've learned over the years - people don't know what to say to well thought out long posts. There is nothing to add to it, kind of letting it have its moment.

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Well, I am glad you at least read them lol. I usually just assume people don’t because I have to repeat myself to those who do reply, because their answers tend to completely gloss over/ignore points I already brought up. X3

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

making you a bad example and a fringe of the population, therefore your point is ill fit to apply to everyone else.

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Oh so how did you determine I represent a fringe of the population? Have you conducted a comprehensive survey of the forum population and know this to be a fact? I'm entitled to an opinion that the current limit is fine. I don't need to clear my view with you before I post it.

My experience is those who run out of posts are generally involved in exactly this type of back and forth. Calling my view petty doesn't stimulate good discussion. Carry on I'm done responding here.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Oh so how did you determine I represent a fringe of the population? Have you conducted a comprehensive survey of the forum population and know this to be a fact? I'm entitled to an opinion that the current limit is fine. I don't need to clear my view with you before I post it.

My experience is those who run out of posts are generally involved in exactly this type of back and forth. Calling my view petty doesn't stimulate good discussion. Carry on I'm done responding here.

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I just think it's funny the reason you're against the unlock of the posts is the same very thing you're up here doing right now lol.

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Originally Posted by MrKusakabe

If you guys would create longer, more thought-out posts then you can avoid that. But these empty one-liners - a speciality of the SMS, Facebook and What'sApp generations and adaptors - make it necessary for you to constantly respond. And worse: Constantly re-check for answers, which is time consuming as heck. And then you complain you have to speedrun duties and kick slightly underperforming players holding your run back by 48 seconds because of your busy life.. :rolleyes: ;)


I know I won't win any popularity contests with saying such stuff, but the vast majority of the "heated debates" is fluff that could be compressed into less posts to begin with.

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The irony of trying to blame short posts on short attention spans from a person who constantly insists on using bold text, a specific font, and enlarged text as if constantly yelling LOOK AT ME is staggering.

Tbh, it's fairly easy to fall into the "no, u" cycle. The trick is to realize you're actually heading nowhere and clean your hands out of it, Pontius Pilate style.

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Originally Posted by MrKusakabe

If you guys would create longer, more thought-out posts then you can avoid that. But these empty one-liners - a speciality of the SMS, Facebook and What'sApp generations and adaptors - make it necessary for you to constantly respond. And worse: Constantly re-check for answers, which is time consuming as heck. And then you complain you have to speedrun duties and kick slightly underperforming players holding your run back by 48 seconds because of your busy life.. :rolleyes: ;)


I know I won't win any popularity contests with saying such stuff, but the vast majority of the "heated debates" is fluff that could be compressed into less posts to begin with.

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I can't read any of this because it's in bold. What does it say?

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Originally Posted by CazzT

Um... are you being serious?

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Are you? It's a valid analogy, please make an actual argument.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Are you? It's a valid analogy, please make an actual argument.

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You're comparing posting on a forum to breaking the law. In the history of analogies that are not valid, yours is by far the least valid.
You tell me to make an actual argument because you can't counter the argument already made.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

You're comparing posting on a forum to breaking the law. In the history of analogies that are not valid, yours is by far the least valid.
You tell me to make an actual argument because you can't counter the argument already made.

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Rules of the board effectively are the laws of this board. Not to mention that laws aren't just to stop bodily harm/death of people and taking people's possessions. You can call the police because someone is standing in your private property and won't leave, even if by standing there they aren't doing anything to you besides being a nuisance.

Board rules have the same spirit in mind.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

You're comparing posting on a forum to breaking the law. In the history of analogies that are not valid, yours is by far the least valid.

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Please tell me how it wouldn't be valid when the daily cap is a restriction placed upon users for their own good, just like how laws are restrictions placed upon citizens for their own good. You quite literally said 'restrict the many because of the few', and laws do just that. People just can't help themselves.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

You tell me to make an actual argument because you can't counter the argument already made.

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I can't counter it because you didn't even attempt to make an actual response, lol. You literally just asked me if I was serious and that was it.

People accuse Theodric of being a troll, and then you get these two thinking real life laws are a good comparison to forum rules.... Kudos, mind blown.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

People accuse Theodric of being a troll, and then you get these two thinking real life laws are a good comparison to forum rules.... Kudos, mind blown.

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That would be a fault in you, not us, if you can't see both laws and rules come from the same place, different scopes.

Also really? "Real life laws"? Is this board a figment of my imagination, that doesn't exist?

Edit: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...y/english/rule

On the synonyms section - Synonyms: Rules and Laws

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

That would be a fault in you, not us, if you can't see both laws and rules come from the same place, different scopes.

Also really? "Real life laws"? Is this board a figment of my imagination, that doesn't exist?

Edit: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...y/english/rule

On the synonyms section - Synonyms: Rules and Laws

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You're just reinforcing that you're a troll. You're now being condescending and posting definitions, the tactic trolls resort to when their material is being exposed.

Your analogy doesn't work. So, you resort to trolling.

You should quit while you're ahead. Even Theodric knows when to stop.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

You're just reinforcing that you're a troll. You're now being condescending and posting definitions, the tactic trolls resort to when their material is being exposed.

Your analogy doesn't work. So, you resort to trolling.

You should quit while you're ahead. Even Theodric knows when to stop.

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Your points don't work so you resort to ad hominems and flaming.

Who's the troll here? You're not even using any arguments, just attacking people and calling them trolls for disagreeing with you.

You can't even rebuke my definition so you resort to calling me a troll and saying trolls post definitions. Know who also post definitions? People who back their claims with proof and don't resort to flaming tantrums because someone proved them wrong.

Lol "the post cap is for your own good."

Stay classy, OF.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

You're entitled to your opinion. Sorry but 20 is more than enough in my view. We aren't in an age where we need people to spam forums with their point of view. State your position and live with it. Having to respond to every reply isn't necessary.

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That'd make sense... if the limitation were per topic. Or if the limit were applied to people who were found to be behaving contrary to the ToS and thus on a "watchlist" for the mods. As blanket restriction, it is annoying.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Please tell me how it wouldn't be valid when the daily cap is a restriction placed upon users for their own good, just like how laws are restrictions placed upon citizens for their own good. You quite literally said 'restrict the many because of the few', and laws do just that. People just can't help themselves.

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Not everyone agrees with such laws - moreover, the scope of most laws is to limit harm to others. On a similar basis, you could argue for caps on how many hours a day you're allowed to play the game, for the players' "own good".

Most people would dismiss that as abject nonsense. ;)

I wouldn't even mind the post cap if it was raised to at least 40 posts or more, though I'd prefer no cap at all or something even higher than that. It's hard to stay on top of multiple active conversations with what it is now, especially right before a big patch when people are speculating heavily about the new content we'll be getting.

So, it's been years since I posted this but rather than create a new thread I figured it'd be easier to give this one a nudge since I've seen a fair few comments lately in relation to the daily post limit. I'd like the site itself to be given a new coat of paint but increasing the daily post limit would be a good step in the right direction. Many people have befriended other posters over time but don't necessarily get to interact in-game due to regional differences so it'd be very much in the spirit of friendship that the game claims to embrace.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

So, it's been years since I posted this but rather than create a new thread I figured it'd be easier to give this one a nudge since I've seen a fair few comments lately in relation to the daily post limit. I'd like the site itself to be given a new coat of paint but increasing the daily post limit would be a good step in the right direction. Many people have befriended other posters over time but don't necessarily get to interact in-game due to regional differences so it'd be very much in the spirit of friendship that the game claims to embrace.

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Just do what I did and start a Discord. Well I mean I didn't start it but I'm in one. I would say get some rules and moderation going before you post a link for it so trouble doesn't start.

When I hit post limits I just hit the discord up. I agree with ya and made some nice friends on here. Now if I unsub and can't come on here I can still talk to the friends I've made.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

So, it's been years since I posted this but rather than create a new thread I figured it'd be easier to give this one a nudge since I've seen a fair few comments lately in relation to the daily post limit. I'd like the site itself to be given a new coat of paint but increasing the daily post limit would be a good step in the right direction. Many people have befriended other posters over time but don't necessarily get to interact in-game due to regional differences so it'd be very much in the spirit of friendship that the game claims to embrace.

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https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ames-%29/page6

I'm all for an increase, but I think it should be gated behind either a certain post count or a certain amount of time since joining the forums. Otherwise we'll have even more problems with throwaway troll accounts spamming the place up.

I wouldn't say it needs to be removed entirely,

But a post-count per thread per day, or at the very least an increase in the daily post limit would be good.

On one hand, the limit can stifle discussion in some fashion yes. But on the other hand, removing it can also make threads and posters more spammy than they already are since there would be no consequence in how much they post. You could argue "But forum moderation" - This would effectively be a full-time job for several people.