Congested area, can't do restoration

Thanks for adding content I can't participate in...

Here's an idea:

Report every damn server visitor that's congesting your server's instance. They're using a game mechanic (server deloading things and locking up areas, when there's too many people present) in an unexpected way (locking other players out for their own benefit). It might just raise awareness of the issue and with luck, get some people slapped on the wrist and taught some humility.

The content actually encourages players to server hop and it's been created with world visit in mind, hence why contributions to other worlds are possible. Reporting players for using a valid feature in the game isn't exactly the best way to go about it, don't waste GMs time on something so silly. However do raise awareness with thread(s) in the forums so devs are fully aware of any on going issues. It's not the players' fault for congestion, but SE for not being better prepared.

Well, that was fun for the few moments I was able to participate... until players from Balmung and Mateus raided Malboro just now and now you can't even access the Firmament. Way to go SE. You were able to let the player base suck the fun out of a long term event on the first day by not server locking the Restoration or having multiple instances for the zone. There's no point in "racing" other servers if they all decide to raid each other for the scrip every time a concerted works pops.

Edit: Players from Balmung and Mateus are fighting each other in Ishgard /sh over Balmung's initial raid of Mateus. That doesn't even involve Malboro! Not to mention wanderers advertising CWLS left and right to raid server's concerted work events...

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Originally Posted by Kurando

The content actually encourages players to server hop and it's been created with world visit in mind, hence why contributions to other worlds are possible. Reporting players for using a valid feature in the game isn't exactly the best way to go about it, don't waste GMs time on something so silly. However do raise awareness with thread(s) in the forums so devs are fully aware of any on going issues. It's not the players' fault for congestion, but SE for not being better prepared.

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I doubt the developers had in mind visitors locking out people from that own server and then yelling "Not my fault" while not leaving and giving way to people to be able to get in. They also probably had in mind people coming from other servers to help out servers lagging behind in the even due to poor participation, not people trying to multi-dip in the scrip pot for their own selfish purposes. Lastly the gathering part of the event barely has any cross-server representation given nodes are inexhaustible, you can't sell materials on other world besides trading them directly with players and you don't need to step into the Firmament to buy materials from another server.

It's partly the players fault when they abuse a system that has cooperation in sight and they abuse it for self interest. Being allowed to do something due to an oversight doesn't mean it's alright to do something up until the developers fix it and/or outlaw it. You have the Ungarmax exploit as an example. And you can't call it a valid feature when most likely what will happen is the ability to contribute to other servers being taken away, which wouldn't have happened if people weren't greedy in the first place.

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

Here's an idea:

Report every damn server visitor that's congesting your server's instance. They're using a game mechanic (server deloading things and locking up areas, when there's too many people present) in an unexpected way (locking other players out for their own benefit). It might just raise awareness of the issue and with luck, get some people slapped on the wrist and taught some humility.

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This is exactly what I started doing. There's not much else going on waiting at the Ishgard aetheryte. At least I'm reporting those that publicly admit in chat that they are intentionally griefing.

Just gonna throw my own hat into the, "this congestion is bullshit," ring. I understand the value of allowing cross-realm participation, but the key flaw was in making the firmament a server-based event rather than a shard based event.

If this had been a crafting version of Eureka, where everyone entered instances which tracked progress that counted towards all servers on the shard, this wouldn't be an issue. But here we are -- with players locked out of content because of server hopping players with more time to play than we've got. It's silly and it lacks in foresight, and it's absolutely outrageous.

So the solution to this, is going to be people AFK'ing in the firmament, afraid to leave cause they won't get back in. Which will lead to slower progress overall, or even complete stagnation. SE you seriously need to put a stop to this.

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Originally Posted by Niadissa

So the solution to this, is going to be people AFK'ing in the firmament, afraid to leave cause they won't get back in. Which will lead to slower progress overall, or even complete stagnation. SE you seriously need to put a stop to this.

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This is already happening on Malboro. Tons of players AFKing inside the Firmament now. Myself and those in my FC and Malboro based LSs are joining in so we don’t miss out in the future. I already missed the first event and don’t want to miss out on the zone appearance change. I’m not going to miss the next steps. I hate that I may potentially lock out someone else from Malboro from participating because SE had no foresight with how the NA community uses World Visit.

Similar issues are being had on Leviathan - with Excalibur, Lamia, and Hyperion being primary culprits. Already hearing from FC mates that they are locked out from the area due to congestion.

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Originally Posted by Travi

Similar issues are being had on Leviathan - with Excalibur, Lamia, and Hyperion being primary culprits. Already hearing from FC mates that they are locked out from the area due to congestion.

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Fake news, I just got in with no issues at all.

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Originally Posted by Chaseless

What needs to happen here is a complete lockout for wanderers from other servers to this area. That would be the simplest fix. With Balmung completing their stages within hours Mateus has become a full fledged congested area and like others, I have to work all day from this morning.

Sure the thought of others visiting from other servers is nice, but it is going to diminish the chance for server natives to participate in their own restoration. Being script vultures at this point is rather sad to see. And I can bet by the time I get home the stages will be complete on Mateus. It was so congested my friend sent a screen shot and character models only loaded 2 yards from him.

SE really needs to hot fix this for the later stages to block wanderers out, or perhaps give visiting players half or a fourth of what you would get for scripts if you're not on your home server, and 0 progress made on the visiting server's restoration.

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I second this. Having all the Toxicity from balmung invade goblin... I left that server for a reason. Please block out the other servers.

Not only should they stop wanderers from joining the fates (and some of those are really annoying with shouting in chat that people should spam skills in the hope of a server crash..) but they should have done the whole thing differently. Everyone that has participated in the stage to get there should then be able to go into a new instance (through a NPC that is open for maybe 24 hours after the task was complete) and then complete some kind of interesting solo fate. This way everyone that took part in this can get something out of it and not miss out because they need to do something important like having a rl, going to work or sleeping..(And yes the fate is nothing special but its also part of the content for this so people should be able to take part in it if they want to do that)

Response from Yoshi-P

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post5232513

"Imma report 'dem illegal alians 'cause they took our jobs!"

Oh my. Never change, gcbtw.

They should add more instances there rather than 1, like they did when shadowbringer launched so people won't get locked out from doing main quests. I did get my Odin server fate only because I stayed there while doing duty roulettes cause I was afraid it would get full. When fate did arrive the amount of lagg was insane, I barely understood what I had to do and when I did the progress bar went up so fast that I only managed to give 2 items, the fate ended in less than 2 minutes. I got less scripts due to confusion and lagg.

At the moment in EU Light servers the firmament gets full 1 hour before the fate starts. Don't report players due to game design's own fault, the reward system even encourages for people to switch worlds to get easy 500 scripts cause crafting collectables give so little each and the rewards are pricey. I try to help other servers with crafting to get more points for the 2h fate timer to start, should I still be reported? In popular servers I'm sure it will still get full even if its only locked for own home server people, so I highly doubt that will fix the congested status.