And the dominant population on Spriggan so far is....Bots!

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Originally Posted by RyuSaarva

the biggest problem is that bots spam certain duty finder dungeons and new players are complaining pretty often in novice chat that they can't get in zodiac weapon dungeons.

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Sometimes when i play FFXIV and i have my "magic powers" on i could see players underperforming below the lowest tier.
And now should i attempt to kick them or leave them? Because seriously there are real bots running dungeons and i have probably meet a ton of them on my way, these usually came in, dont write anything in chat and just get their rear carried by my team. If SE wont fix the bots issues i am going to start kicking suspicious ones because its becoming to get ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

Sometimes when i play FFXIV and i have my "magic powers" on i could see players underperforming below the lowest tier.
And now should i attempt to kick them or leave them? Because seriously there are real bots running dungeons and i have probably meet a ton of them on my way, these usually came in, dont write anything in chat and just get their rear carried by my team. If SE wont fix the bots issues i am going to start throwing kicks left and right because its becoming to get ridiculous.

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Bots in duty finder are pretty easy to pick out from their weird but overly consistent movement patterns.

They obviously don't talk, but when they're following the party, you'll notice that they only move whenever the tank gets a certain distance away from them and they'll move exactly to where they were last, meaning they'll try to stand directly on top of you if you're moving slowly.

In PotD, they're prone to getting stuck on walls and will always just camp out on top of the portal once it's been located and make no effort to help with activating it.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Bots in duty finder are pretty easy to pick out from their weird but overly consistent movement patterns.

They obviously don't talk, but when they're following the party, you'll notice that they only move whenever the tank gets a certain distance away from them and they'll move exactly to where they were last, meaning they'll try to stand directly on top of you if you're moving slowly.

In PotD, they're prone to getting stuck on walls and will always just camp out on top of the portal once it's been located and make no effort to help with activating it.

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Seen them.
They were dying to mechanics on the bosses in dungeons, it was hands down, the stupidiest thing i have seen. The worst thing about it is that, they are keeping you hostage because they are not interacting with the gear dropped, not passing, not greedying, nothing.

10:00 pm cst and dozens level 1-5 Thaumaturge bots erupting out of the Quicksand and scorching the earth across Central Thanalan on Spriggan now. Don't plan on getting your lvl 1 kills outside the gates there anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by NekoNova

only solution is people not buying this shit

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Pretty much this.
They only exist because there is a market for it. That's also why they are much rarer on Japanese servers. Not because the team is Japanese and acts quicker on them, but because people who BUY are much much more limited.
If you remove the buyers, the sellers won't bother.

Seemingly all of the JP servers have at least one gil farming FC on them still (Judging from a cursory glance at their FC rankings), but there's definitely less of them then on the US/EU servers.

I suppose it's done as a "just in case" thing.

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Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy

We need harsh penalties for the Gil Buyers, not even a warning, a straight ban. Zero Tolerance is the only way forward.


If people aren't buying Gil because of the risk involved, then the Bots will not be making much Money! Currently there isn't any risk, obviously.

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I don't think SE is in much of a hurry to lower their player count and lose customers for what basically amounts to a non-issue. Thousands of people across all regions have bought gil since the game launched and it hasn't affected me at all.

So far the only solution that actually works, proven by most MMOs out there, even the other top MMOs (WoW, GW2, kinda ESO, OSRS) is to establish a RMT market between players where the money goes to SE instead of going to fund more bots, but people who only play 14 or 11 usually shudder when this is suggested at all.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

I don't think SE is in much of a hurry to lower their player count and lose customers for what basically amounts to a non-issue.

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It's not so much the gil-selling that's the issue as it is the fact that the bots create a huge amount of server traffic, to the point where you can't even get into the instances they're farming much of the time.

When Stormblood launched the queues for many servers were up to 90 minutes just to log on. Hopefully will not be that bad this time around but the bot population is certainly a factor in that queue.

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Originally Posted by Dagget

Everywhere I go there are stacks of rmt bots. They flow like water from the Adventurers Guilds to Aetherites. Even seen them pouring out of the Inn rooms (what do they store there?). Most now are either 35 or 47/50 at present. 50's have Ironworks armor and the XP ring from the Smith quest.

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Your post is very important. I am sure Square is completely unaware of any bots in the game.

Honestly, I don't think anything will ever change until SE realizes that the four man STF team is not nearly enough to be handling an entire game's worth of cheaters.

The GMs need the authority to issue bans for illicit activity.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Your post is very important. I am sure Square is completely unaware of any bots in the game.

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Of course they are aware, what's needed is a better effort on their part. I suspect the relatively low bot activity on the Japanese servers tempers their response to date. So since they've shown they do respond to issues that a large portion of the playerbase want addressed, we just have to keep pointing the bot issue out on the forums. If the amount of bot activity on the EU and US servers becomes a significant part of any login queues when Shadowbringers arrives, that will have a rather negative effect on player perceptions towards the game.

The bot activity being lower on their end only really holds true for the RMT bots.

I've seen multiple painfully obvious DoL/H bot farming FCs on their end and tellingly, they have the lowest prices on infusions and crafted gear out of any of the DCs.

I still don't understand why you can report people from RMT when they say something on a chat window, but you don't have that option when you target their character.

No one will fill dozens of full report when you see a complete hoard of bots teleporting back and forth between several spots on the map.

Fun fact, I recently created an alt and I met the exact same party of bots going through the MSQ for 4 full levels.