Can we have new customization options for existing races?

Completely agree. I want the Dev Team to stop making excuses and add more to the Character Creator. If you gotta add stuff to a secondary Character Creator, so be it. I want more options.

I don't personally need any homogenization of the races but more customization options are definitely a welcome thing. Elezen female only have 2 facesets and Squeenix has showed they are capable of making much more advanced and nicer looking face sets with the Viera. I just want them to show that kind of love to all the races.

Why don't they fix the code for the game then? The longer they wait, the worst it'll be to fix it. The sooner the cheaper and less work, and it'll make future content easier to develop as well. It would increase the life of the game for sure, help it age much better, etc. I can't imagine that cost outweighs the profits of this game and not also increase the profits a ton as well for the future. "Time and Money" are not valid reasons. I'm sure it's the excuse people will use though. They got plenty of money and plenty of time. This isn't a small indie company.

another subrace for each race would be nice. i could imagine garleans for hyurs, miqote that can choose to have both or either of the sun keeper/moon keeper features (eyes & fangs), whatever kind of roegadyn gosetsu is, nymian lalafells (green lalafells?), and i'm not sure for aura, elezen, and viera and hrothgar.

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Originally Posted by Cyhiwraith

Why don't they fix the code for the game then? The longer they wait, the worst it'll be to fix it. The sooner the cheaper and less work, and it'll make future content easier to develop as well. It would increase the life of the game for sure, help it age much better, etc. I can't imagine that cost outweighs the profits of this game and not also increase the profits a ton as well for the future. "Time and Money" are not valid reasons. I'm sure it's the excuse people will use though. They got plenty of money and plenty of time. This isn't a small indie company.

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I don't... think it's just "fixing it" but rather building an entirely new code. Yoshi p said in many interviews that they work around a nightmarish infrastructure. I also agree that they should do that, but I can't measure exactly the amount of work required to do it... Some people say that it's like building the game from zero.

I'd like to see some more presets of faces, ears, beards etc as well. I'd even trade the hairstyles we get for them.
Those limiting choices have bothered since a while now, kinda want more individuality. Seeing copies around isnt really fun...

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Every race has one setting that is controlled by a slider (not counting the female bust slider). Hyur and Roegadyn get muscle tone, Lalafell and Elezen get ear length, Miqo'te and Au Ra get tail length.

Likewise, everyone gets five "extra feature" tickboxes - the actual options vary, but the number does not.

And everyone has a setting with two tickboxes and an associated colour choice, which usually sets racial tattoos, but also Wildwood earclasps and Au Ra limbal rings. Neither of these races have specific tattoos.

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I still fail to see how this is a defense for not adding in more features/sliders. Character Creation is always up for expansion. Just because this is the way it is now doesn’t mean it has to forever stay that way.

This would be great! I would also enjoy having more customizations/faces and features especially things seperated. Considering no more new races will be made I think this is a really great "compromise" in a sense. While giving more ways to customize and not making the workload too insane!

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I don't... think it's just "fixing it" but rather building an entirely new code. Yoshi p said in many interviews that they work around a nightmarish infrastructure. I also agree that they should do that, but I can't measure exactly the amount of work required to do it... Some people say that it's like building the game from zero.

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More reason to start sooner and not wait. Not that it would be easy but for sure worth it. I can't see it being like starting from 0, but not simple at all, sure. Again though, the more they add the more work it is and the worst off it'll be.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I still fail to see how this is a defense for not adding in more features/sliders. Character Creation is always up for expansion. Just because this is the way it is now doesn’t mean it has to forever stay that way.

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Data amounts are budgeted in programs in the same way you budget and distribute more physical items. If a store has 100 apples but only one register it can sell a total of 100 apples but can only do so one at a time (assuming the store disallows buying in bulk). If a store has 100 apples and 100 oranges but one register it can still only sell one piece of fruit at a time. In order to sell more they need to install a new register. Once that extra register is installed they can dictate that one register sells apples and the other oranges or they can handle both. There are advantages and disadvantages to both potential configurations.

While data may be invisible it's no different to physical items. It's not as simple a changing a number somewhere. As a basic example imagine a package of data contains 4 single digit numbers. Each number describes something. So you could have 4 items that have 10 options (0-9) or you could have three items two of which have 10 options and one that has 100, etc. Now we want to double the size of the package to 8 numbers, but that's double the data to download and upload, you may also need to change other code to recognise that the new 8 number data package. So you need to find every instance where that data had an operation performed to it to ensure the data type and size is consistent with new data package.

This is essentially the Y2K problem. Programs simply weren't written with the idea that we'd ever need more than two numbers to describe the year. Crazy when you consider that widespread computer use would have been around less than 50 years when the year turned over. Then as 2000 got closer and closer people realised a 4 digit year was needed or computers would recognise any transaction dated 00 as being 1900. Not an issue for newer software most of which had been written with newer data structures and had larger data budgets. But a lot of software built on from old software, meaning the core of the code had not changed. So it became imperative that this old code was updated in the system.

Saying that something can be changed negates how much effort (time and money) is required to make the change. Humans can in fact fly, it just takes more than just wishing it and sprouting wings. Having said that I'd love for the game engine to be overhauled but I wonder how many players would be all that keen on the cost (likely in the form of less of content during the overhaul and additional load times) that the change may well bring about. Remember we already have players complaining about how slow some stuff loads now. More character information will exacerbate that.

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Originally Posted by Cyhiwraith

More reason to start sooner and not wait. Not that it would be easy but for sure worth it. I can't see it being like starting from 0, but not simple at all, sure. Again though, the more they add the more work it is and the worst off it'll be.

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They have been working on it while also working on other things, can't quote me on it because I don't remember but I'm pretty sure certain new features have come about because of updating/fixing the old 1.0 code.

They could put more resources towards fixing/updating said code but it would 100% affect the patch cycle and make it take longer then the current 3-4 months we usually get between them.

I just want hair that flows a bit.

But I know they only said recently that they can't because there are only some many 'bones' allowed in each character. (Which is likely why Viera Ears are so... static seeming)

I would like to see more horn options and maybe horn slider for the Aura's. Maybe option that let have horns on your forehead instead of where ears should be.

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Originally Posted by TitaniaZero

I just want hair that flows a bit.

But I know they only said recently that they can't because there are only some many 'bones' allowed in each character. (Which is likely why Viera Ears are so... static seeming)

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I agree. Like, especially if we are going to be getting longer hair styles, we should get some sort of physics for hair.

I mean they did say Viera and Hrothgar would be the last new races they would introduce I believe. So that could mean maybe some new additions to current races in the future? Or possibly overhauls for some races all together? Either way new faces and additions to the current systems would be welcome. Personally I would like to see a change in the midlander female standard running animation. The only real reason I haven't any interest in playing it. Some people like it though so thats not something I think will change. But I root for more stuff for current races!

I would love this. But I'd like to see them finish harothgar first

I honestly would have taken more and deeper customization of the old races over two genderlocked new races. I still wish for more scars for example. Just being able to give your character more of them as the story is going on would be a great tool for story telling. Or more beards for the males.

But for me as an Au Ra I wished I had more options to choose more scales. Or make my horns much bigger.

I understand this might be a lot of work on their end, but I support this so much!

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Originally Posted by Yurenai

I understand this might be a lot of work on their end, but I support this so much!

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So do I!! pls square bring more faces for every race!!

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Originally Posted by Fellgon

So do I!! pls square bring more faces for every race!!

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Indeed, I always found it distasteful how some NPC's had better faces than any of the player characters of their race like Aymeric. I want to see sexy male elf faces too!