Moogle Treasure Trove - An irregular popup event

Meh, Pegasus mount and Alexander minion are about all I'll get from this.
Got all the ponies, got the lanners, got the beast tribe mounts, got the music from the beast tribes. Got all the riding maps.

Inferno horns are cheap enough/easy enough to get in a minute unsync'ed from Ifrit. Quicker than syncing Sastasha I'd imagine for numerous stones to buy them. Same with the Ponies, unsync 2/3 times you'll get your pony much quicker than running Crystal tower umpteen times to buy it.

I feel for people whio have been playing for some time the rewards will be useless or for people with a brain who can go...."Hang on! I'd be quicker just doing this...." the rewards will be useless outside 1 or 2 items.

Soooo yea. 2 items. I have no interest in the earrings at that price and for something I'd rarely ever take notice of on my character anyway since they're so small. Right side accs I hardly notice in the game ( I don't run around zoomed in to my head or zooming in to other peoples heads) so why they'd make a big deal out this I dunno. Shouldve been a namazu tshirt or something.

I'll probly go for earrings the higher price mounts crchestrion rolls pets and cards everything else I either don't need or through doing beast tribe quests and such and battles just get it that way

I hope they don't do anything like this again.
This is lazy content production.
It's a bandaid to help with already awful queues (because of the dc split no less ofcourse)

Please square, don't reintroduce content already in the game like this again..

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Originally Posted by PangTong

The rewards are WAAAAYY too expensive for how many tokens you get. Seriously, 100 tokens for an earring when a 40 minute run of castrum/praetorium gives 3? Almost every other item on the list except maybe the Diadem stuff can be gotten much more easily just by running the content the item comes from. Square really needs to learn how to balance their incentives. When you make stuff that's ridiculously grindy like this, it doesn't mean people are going to be doing it tons, it means they are more likely to ignore the system entirely because the reward isn't worth the effort required.

With the item prices as they are, the tome payout should be triple what they've listed. 3/6/9 not 1/2/3.

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It's quite baffling. The idea is good but the grind required is simply preposterous

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Originally Posted by TwistedTea

4. Hjalmr and Herklaedi can be obtained from doing the Odin trial unsynced and less than 1-2 mins per solo run

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Not to disagree with the time/reward ratio being questionable but, Hjalmr and Herklaedi are actually different from the ones you get from the trial.
Blue (Odin FATE variant - will also be able to get from event):

• Tank Exclusive
• 2-piece set (head + a full body onesie using the Body slot as the core)
• Visually bulkier

Green (Trial variant):

• Can be worn by any DoW (yes even ranged if you want your BRD/DNC/MCH to wear full body armor)
• Regular 5-piece set
• Visually slimmer

I've used both as glamour (in the past I used the blue variant for my WAR, then I used the green variant for my DRG briefly).

Big oof. Not an event I'll bother with thankfully.

Better to have an event rather than not one at all. I could see max level players not take benefiting much from it (as they would have most things already), but it would seem appealing to newer players so that's something.

A bit overpriced, but I'm OK with it, especially for the Diadem stuff. I have them but since Diadem is dead, it's really nice to give the opportunity to gain the mount and the minion.

I DO find that it's quite the grind thought, but... I mean, if you really want it, I guess it 10 MSQ roulette runs for the Pegasus mount. As for the rest (like the Namazu earrings) I think I'll just pass to be honest lol

Edit : And as stated by Kurando, it is better than nothing :)

My only thoughts is that this is stupid grindy and its limited time? Kinda sucks. I really want that Namazu earring and I don't know if ill have the time to do it as im in the process of moving out of state ( oh well! ). I would love this if it wasn't a limited time event. It's a good way to incentivise roulettes, but it defeats the purpose if it's limited time only.

Fair enough. I'll farm a couple of these. I think we're just very used to Enix's regular events where you get everything in 20 minutes, but considering most of these are available items or just earrings it's not that unreasonable they don't just hand them all out. It's like they've added bonus rewards to dungeons for a month.

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Irregular tomestones of philosophy will not be awarded under the following conditions:
・Joining a Party in Progress

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Is it just me or is this unnecessary though? If someone leaves your group you're in trouble.

I was excited until I saw that the max tomestones you can earn per run is 3? And it is for the worst dungeon design where you can't skip Cut scenes .... Yea, the items aren't worth that hell. Even the 1 and 2 tomestone dungeons/raids are torment synced. This is a big no from me dawg.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Is it just me or is this unnecessary though? If someone leaves your group you're in trouble.

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The only reason i see this is to stop people from doing all but the final boss kick an unfortunate random person then get their friend in for the tomestones other than that idk :P

I feel like with this was intended to start earlier, or the time frame hasn't really been thought out.

There are three elements to the grind:

- small amount of tokens per run
- large number of high-cost items
- short time frame

Take away any one of those and it would probably seem okay. But all three seems like bad planning.

I'm also worried that this will just mean those dungeons come up even more often in leveling roulette than they already do.

Perhaps they could have been made "adventurer in need" bonus rewards instead of requiring the specific dungeons? Could still have the same reward structure of giving one for leveling roulette, two for trials, three for MSQ.

Not a huge fan of this as all items a majority, including myself would have already gotten or do not want. The the fact the cost for this is rather steep, I really don't see too may people actuall participating. The only thing really of worth that isn't easily obtainable at this point would be the Diadem stuff(Pegasus mount/minon & Baby Brachio) And even those minions can probably be found on te MB. I am rather curious as to what is in that Seemingly Special Timeworn Map though. Yea, I might not actually waste my time on this, just wish there was more exclusive items(besides the earring) or the cost isn't too high.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

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My thoughts exactly! This was either poorly planned or meant to be released at least a month ago. Take your pick. If this was a permanent addition, it would be great.

funny another grindy event and no suprise it is run by mole bats, if people don't hate them after heavensward they hate them now. but on topic are some nice rewards but a little overkill, not mad either just laughing that the most expensive ting is a pair of fish earrings xD

I'm okay with a grind but only 3 Tomestones for Praetorium? I'd honestly suggest 4 for Castrum and 6 for Prae at least as they are huge timesinks for people.

The only big benefits I see for all of this are poetics and getting light for the Zeta weapons if people are working on the Zodiac Glass/Mahatma step. I'm def going to be using this to stockpile poetics for more zeta/anima stuff but good lord those tomestones rewards don't match the content duration.

Pretty high prices and low rewards. 25 alliance raid just to get 50 tokens? No thanks

I’m pretty sure this was meant for newer players who would be doing all of these instances anyway and don’t have easy access to the majority of the items on the board. If that’s then case then this was never meant to be grinded out and people are making a bigger stink about it than it should be.

I'm not thrilled. It seems rather tedious in design and the list of rewards tells me I have pretty much everything on offer already. Anyone who actively plays the game and strives to engage as much content as possible seems to have been left out.

I was curious when I saw this on the Lodestone, but after reading it and seeing the rewards...hard pass. Not really worth the effort required to obtain what I don't have. So...back to playing other games I guess until Shadowbringers.

as a vet player with no ARR beast tribe mounts, not even interested in the slightest. if an alliance raid was 10 tomestones, maybe I'd grab a few things. but 2? and 1 for dungeons? hard pass. that is not worth the grind.

I don't know what to think about this event.
Its not much of an event if you're an old player and already have much of this stuff.
Its a nice event for people to get extra burned out right before ShB gets released xD

Hey, I'll totally run things! I've just been sitting around town doing much of nothing, but I do see plenty of items a couple of items i'd like to work towards. Prices are a tad high, so I'll probably have to really look into what I want, but I appreciate the bonus.

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Originally Posted by Wolwosh

Its a nice event for people to get extra burned out right before ShB gets released xD

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SE: "Guys, we need a solution to the server problems that will undoubtedly arise due to the influx of thousands, possibly millions of players who want to play Shadowbringers."

Devs: "Let's have players grind for days and weeks for some earrings. They'll need a break after that!"

SE: "PERFECT!"

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Originally Posted by Iscah

- small amount of tokens per run
- large number of high-cost items
- short time frame

Take away any one of those and it would probably seem okay. But all three seems like bad planning.

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Agreed.

A slow grind is fine. A slow grind with a very short time limit? That's just plain stupid.

you know.... stuff like this was how we had to do the relic back in the day. then we got eureka. people say they want to go back to the way things were. none of you are ever satisfied.

I have just told my daughter we shall be spamming those dungeons because pegasus.

This event is a great opportunity to pick up some things that might otherwise be problematic to acquire, or tooth-gnashingly annoying. For example, I fished up my magic bucket, but it was only to kick it for how long it took. If someone gets it this more surefire way, then more power to them! XD

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

you know.... stuff like this was how we had to do the relic back in the day. then we got eureka. people say they want to go back to the way things were. none of you are ever satisfied.

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This is a really boring grind. Running some of the lamest content for tomes ... yes been there done that for relic of days gone by but some like it. Debating personally if I'll just give it a pass given the number of tomestones per run are pretty small. Can take a party of 4 to 6 to Diadem and earn Pegasus a lot faster than spamming the content for 50 tomestones.

I suppose if you're running some of this normally for leveling roles it might not be so bad but that's not my case. The fact you can't unsync any of this is certainly a turnoff.

Rewards are WAY too low for the time invested.

Should have put 3 as a reward for "Adventurer in need".

Give a daily Tome for logging in with the companion app instead of those useless Kupo Nuts.

SOMETHING.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I feel like with this was intended to start earlier, or the time frame hasn't really been thought out.

There are three elements to the grind:

- small amount of tokens per run
- large number of high-cost items
- short time frame

Take away any one of those and it would probably seem okay. But all three seems like bad planning.
MSQ.

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100% this.

You know you guys will have the earrings in a few days would't surprise me if someone gets them with 3 days or less.

Was initially excited, but then reality set in when I realized just what kind of a grind we were looking at. Consider Rose Lanner Whistle, for 50 tomes. Assuming (perhaps generously low) an hour per CM or Prae, that's seventeen hours worth of grinding. At current drop rates, you should be able to grind the (now quite easy) Ex Primal unsynced and get a drop in FAR less time.

There are still a couple hidden gems in the prize list. Pegasus might be worth the grind, given how difficult it is to get Diadem parties together, for instance, and the "Special Maps" are an intriguing unknown. Still, all in all, this thing is WAY too time-intense to shop casually.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

You know you guys will have the earrings in a few days would't surprise me if someone gets them with 3 days or less.

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What is so special about the earrings? They are not even on my radar. Certainly not worth grinding 100 tomes for them. They don't even have any experience buffs or anything along that line.

Am I reading this right:
50 to 100 dungeons per item and only 1 month time?

They probably forgot that some people here have sth called "real life".

I'm still missing the Calofisteri and Bucket minions so definitely grabbing those. I love this concept of letting newer players grind some items through more easily accessible methods if they missed out on old content when it was relevant. You still have to spend some time on it but now you have more options.

Not sure if an earring is worth that many runs, though.

Speaking as someone who did it twice (main and main-alt), is this worse than the whisper-go-go mount grind?

and it says no undersized parties. does that include squadron parties? I'm leveling the jobs I've not finished (and have sucky DPS queue times) that way. I could kill 2 birds with one stone doing that if it'll get me the new TS.

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Originally Posted by Pixiehawk

Speaking as someone who did it twice (main and main-alt), is this worse than the whisper-go-go mount grind?

and it says no undersized parties. does that include squadron parties? I'm leveling the jobs I've not finished (and have sucky DPS queue times) that way. I could kill 2 birds with one stone doing that if it'll get me the new TS.

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You'd have to check squadron missions at the start of the event. Duties which qualify will have a moogle icon next or in front of the duty selection. For those leveling it's not really too bad although wonder if main story roulette will have the icon or just the two duties when run separately.

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...N7z212JRro.png

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Am I reading this right:
50 to 100 dungeons per item and only 1 month time?

They probably forgot that some people here have sth called "real life".

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50 dungeons if you're going to run dungeons, or 25 alliance raids is the "better" option.

Per item.

D:

15 tokens for the minions is a somewhat more fathomable grind, but still.

(How long does it actually take to gather 99 Diadem spoils for the Pegasus?)

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I'm still missing the Calofisteri and Bucket minions so definitely grabbing those.

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The Lv60 raids now have a 100% chance of dropping the minion (though not that you'll individually get it), which may be a more efficient grind for that minion. Especially if you want those glamours and/or Lv60 EXP.

My biggest issue with this is that you don't get tomestones if you join a party in progress. It kind of screws people in a duty who need a fill when we all turn off the option in the df... or those that join in progress and promptly bail. It shouldn't matter at what point we land in the party, just that we complete it.

It's like an event tailor made not for me