YoRHa/NieR alliance raid 5.0

I ask only this:
Make the thing cohesive and whole within XIV's own context. I don't want to go through another raid based on another game that won't make sense unless I played that other game. Ivalice was horrible in that aspect, specifically the last part.

moogle farted and created a rip in space time continuum connecting the worlds, there you go, your cohesiveness satisfied :p

lets see how it play out, i as male character i will most likely have no glame outside of some masks.

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Originally Posted by SamsaraLotusx

lets see how it play out, i as male character i will most likely have no glame outside of some masks.

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You can look like 9S, or a hobo resistance member.

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Originally Posted by Xiomara

You can look like 9S, or a hobo resistance member.

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Adam, Eve, Emil, either Nier. There's plenty of options.

Yaaay, loved loved loved this, NieR is f*** awesome.

I love Nier but I'm confused as to how it's going to fit at all in FF XIV. Seriously, Nier is an entirely different and totally messed up universe all its own...in a good way. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it...but I am, as I said, confused.

looking foward to this more than the other 24 man raids nier is 1 of my favourite games of all time so much win

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Originally Posted by Riardon

It worked ok but didn't fit perfectly.
The reason is that they tried to port almost everything from XII and the other Ivalice games.
Too many things at once and it made it feel disconnected from XIV.
Ivalice has a very big lore and a distinct feeling so it kinda didn't mixed perfectly.
Now Nier is a completely different beast with a very different feeling and lore and that's why I'm worried.

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Rough translation: I personally did not like it.

NIER! Woooooo! <3

Ahem..

I'm OK with this.

With the number of orchestrion rolls added during Return to Ivalice, we better get a comparable number from this. Automata has one hell of an OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQT_LwV2qwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SW1Zy6-EDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCA1irE4wHU

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Originally Posted by Daralii

With the number of orchestrion rolls added during Return to Ivalice, we better get a comparable number from this. Automata has one hell of an OST.

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A Beutiful Song pls omg :3

while I have never played a Neir game I can see it fitting in to FF14 under 2 senarios: 1) Garlian pet project: if the trailer is to be assumed we've been MIA for a bit since 4.45, Scion's are alive & have been up to shit while all "Holy" hell's been let lose, which gives Garland time to R&D some robo-ppl to replace losses or 2) Reality shift: title says it... & probably allagan's did it

From what I've seen of Neir gameplay vids, I hope they tone down the "Bullet hell"... I mean we all remember the Vault's last boss right? that d**kweed left some ppl with "Dodging" nightmares denched in FLAMES (even I dread getting that dugeon when leveling, I dread it more then AV)

Can someone pls post a picture of the guy from ancient aliens and edit the text to put Allagans instead? Thanks alot!! :)

Excellent news for me. I wonder how they are going to pull it off. Yoshi-p always said this game would have a lot of fanservice, so no surprise here. If anything, I'm very happy that they are working together with Yoko Taro in order to deliver this story. Looking forward to it!

I can only be happy for a new "game" from Yoko Taro, but on the FFXIV side, if the team is no longer able to have new idea, it would be better to just stop...

End of the raid will have you sacrifice your character progression and turn your character into a trust for people who want to run content with npc

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

After the current 24 man, I'm slightly worried.

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current 24 en set is perfect.. is tactics set.. people would have complain regardless if it did no look exactly like Tactics set

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Originally Posted by Genz

I can only be happy for a new "game" from Yoko Taro, but on the FFXIV side, if the team is no longer able to have new idea, it would be better to just stop...

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but this in self is a great idea! :D

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I have very mixed feelings about this, honestly.

I like Nier and all, but it's starting to seem like they're running out of ideas for raids if they need to keep drawing from other source material this much.

I miss the original raids like Coil and Void Ark.

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i say what the main reason this is happening is because the dev team is getting tired of the usual request of "do a nier cross over please!!!!" and so, you want nier cross over?, you have now a 3 spoonfuls of it!

For anyone who thinks how crazy the idea might sound...you're not alone (skip to 5:00)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBsU2XAUcA0

Yoko Taro is such a gem :D

Nier Automata has been on my list for a while... l guess I'd better get on it lol

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Originally Posted by Daralii

With the number of orchestrion rolls added during Return to Ivalice, we better get a comparable number from this. Automata has one hell of an OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQT_LwV2qwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SW1Zy6-EDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCA1irE4wHU

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You forgot the most important song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJnwWRuJR8w

Will be disappointed if there is no orchestrion for this gem.

When I saw the ending of the 4.0 raid I was expecting something to do with alternate Dimensions but I was not expect to be actually take us to Nier Universe.

By far, unquestionably, the most exciting expansion thing announced between both fanfests.

I'm mixed on this. On the one hand, cool. On the other, is it really that hard to try to come up with something that would fit into this Final Fantasy MMO? Like, I wouldn't have cared if they just did another fanservice-y type raid like Ivalice again, cause at least it was Final Fantasy. A big part of the content cycle will involve a completely different franchise?

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Originally Posted by splinter1545

I'm mixed on this. On the one hand, cool. On the other, is it really that hard to try to come up with something that would fit into this Final Fantasy MMO? Like, I wouldn't have cared if they just did another fanservice-y type raid like Ivalice again, cause at least it was Final Fantasy. A big part of the content cycle will involve a completely different franchise?

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Pretty much me.
I'd rather Final Fantasy fanservice over external fanservice.
But if they integrate the lore well enough it might win me over.

It seems we might not actually be delving further into Garlemald in Shadowbringers, in which case, if this is our main Garlean content, but styled as NieR, then that'd be alright.

I loved Nier Automata and am excited. I heard that there will be more to it just being a raid, whether or not the story is tied in to Nier Automata or not not 100% sure.
As for those that are saying why it is not relevant i would usually agree however we have had:
Power Rangers event, Yo-kai Watch, American Ninja Warrior (Ffxiv's take on it that is) and while these were just events they are in no way relevant to FFXIV.
Oh and we still have Monster Hunter as permanent content and Makai or whatever it be for PVP.

Still do kind of agree however that we should have more content and events actually related to FF, it has been getting crazy.

And @ Daralii, one of my favs of the game is pascal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGFOvuOxwuU

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyZEma6WwAAUoF6.jpg

cowriters Yosuke Saito and Yoko Taro from NieR.

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Most predictable:

Boss monsters and gear from Nier:Automata

Progress-loss based progression.

To get the true ending of the 24 man raid you have to delete your character though...

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Originally Posted by Rowde

To get the true ending of the 24 man raid you have to delete your character though...

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And delete all your saved config files from the computer.

Remember, the game's gotta be completely clean of your presence.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/7f90...itemid=5548885

I think this means they officially gave up on Original Content. So which tournament fanservice bs will our regular raids be...

As long I get some nice music scrolls from there for my home, I gladly hammer that raid.

Nier's OST was amazing.

This Raid storyline better make people question the meaning of life just like Nier series did.

Now I'll be preparing my emotional corner for the tears if they do this right.

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

I think this means they officially gave up on Original Content. So which tournament fanservice bs will our regular raids be...

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I'm going to be quite honest...the Void Ark storyline was their "original content" and it was, to me, fairly underwhelming from start to finish. Crystal Tower and Ivalice were both ideas taken from other games and they were great. I'm fine with them NOT doing original content from 24 man raids.

Hydaelyn is amazing enough... Why is there a need to break it apart both in and outside lore. Aside just serving as glorified marketing that is...?
Don't get me wrong, i know Nier is amazing and we all love it, but Nier is Nier, Final Fantasy XIV should take that XIV a bit more seriously, is after all a main entry. And is starting to feel like it has less and less of "original".

"Until our friend returns."
We might be leaving Eorzea for good, or at least our version of it.... To go and be a Warrior of Darkness somewhere else. A perfect justification to split everything even further, as Hydaelyn is starting to feel less like a universe and more like a metaverse. Are we some forgotten library of Record Keeper?

Sorry, this is just sad.

We could be going to Meracydia, visit Tavnair, explore Nagxia, Dalmasca proper, there is a lot of areas we haven't really explored in Eorzea itself. We could go to the north towards Garlemald, we could go towards sharlayan, there is always the northern isles and aside Meracydia to the southern emisphere (i think it's above the equator?) and the whole new world thats aparently being reached by both eorzean and othardian explorers from two completely diferent coasts.... Hydaelyn looks really cool on it's own. Ivallician architecture was familiar enough for most of us, and it was reinterpreted in a good way which was basically only thanks to it being so closely tied to the main story towards the end... I think it was good but shouldn't be repeated, maybe it should keep as our fill of Final Fantasy "fan servicing" good enough already, lets be XIV.

The Binding Coil, Crystal Tower were both praised as very indepth related to our lore, and the emotional bagage of Bahamut and it's fitting in XIV is just too much. We will probably get anything like that again.
Void Ark tried to be Hydaelyn, and i honestly loved it, all voidsent stuff is amazing really and i feel like we could be exploring all those avenues a lot more. But it also was underwhelming in many aspects, because exploration is a huge part in RPGs. And exploring whole "regions" as small, time limited duties, is bad in general... We need more exploration, more maps.

Hydaelyn is huge, we should be exploring what we have instead of giving our backs to that and fighting things that are so alien... No matter the writting mind you, it's just so unfitting... I'm so torn with this whole expansion.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'm going to be quite honest...the Void Ark storyline was their "original content" and it was, to me, fairly underwhelming from start to finish. Crystal Tower and Ivalice were both ideas taken from other games and they were great. I'm fine with them NOT doing original content from 24 man raids.

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That still stayed within the Final Fantasy mythos though. Now we're going totally "oh we can't be arsed to make a raid, let's get another franchise to do it for us". This is just an other level of magnitude in which SE will not make any effort to bring something new to XIV. Hell, let's bring back Diadem again for 5.1x!

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Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau

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I think this Nier Raid may dive into the lore about how FF14 world is connected to other Square Enix game worlds.

Cross-over events show this by how beings from other worlds would end up in FF14 world but why is there even a "door" into FF14 world remains a mystery and why until now we only start accessing this "door" now for us to enter the other alternate worlds that parallel FF14 world beyond the shards.

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Originally Posted by SpiritMuse

Nier Automata has been on my list for a while... l guess I'd better get on it lol

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

Whelp guess I need to go play Nier now.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I know nothing about nier, maybe I should change that lol, but the art looks really neat. The scale looks a bit terrifying, in a good way :). Does that big thing in the background reference something from Nier?

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You guys totally should, the game is awesome. Not sure about how the raid in FFXIV will play out thought.