Eureka Background Info + Updates Hinted At During "Yoshi-P's Walk"

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

But that already exists. If you overlevel a NM, players need to sync their level, similar to FATEs.

So I'm not even sure what the correction of the mistranslation is even supposed to mean? They're planning to add a feature that's already there?

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Nono, what they meant is the elemental sync. Say, you have 5 elemental points on Fire. The NM syncs you down to level 9, it means that you'd lose 2 of these 5 points because you're under level 13/17.

With the current system, only your level goes down, as you still keep your 5 elemental points.

Retaining magicite after level sync is a major contributor towards the NMs melting as quickly as they do now, so changing that will make things easier on the late-comers.

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Originally Posted by Lilseph

Nono, what they meant is the elemental sync. Say, you have 5 elemental points on Fire. The NM syncs you down to level 9, it means that you'd lose 2 of these 5 points because you're under level 13/17.

With the current system, only your level goes down, as you still keep your 5 elemental points.

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So they're essentially just attempting to say "We're going to nerf higher level players on lower level NMs" in a positive way.

Well, that's just stupid.

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Originally Posted by Lilseph

Nono, what they meant is the elemental sync. Say, you have 5 elemental points on Fire. The NM syncs you down to level 9, it means that you'd lose 2 of these 5 points because you're under level 13/17.

With the current system, only your level goes down, as you still keep your 5 elemental points.

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They're more worried about that than they are about the fact that you can't play with anyone who differs in any significant way from your level anywhere except the train?

Talk about backwards priorities.

although i find the fact that nms melting in less than a minute is a problem, this still doesn't address the fact that as a lvl20, i can't play with my lvl1 friends without robbing them of their xp.

gj se.

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Originally Posted by Tridus

They're more worried about that than they are about the fact that you can't play with anyone who differs in any significant way from your level anywhere except the train?

Talk about backwards priorities.

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yeah it is stupid, it is confusing to me as well since from my understanding, the Japanese of was asking for a level sync so they can play with friends.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

yeah it is stupid, it is confusing to me as well since from my understanding, the Japanese of was asking for a level sync so they can play with friends.

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So did he misunderstood them too?

Anyway wouldnt that change mean that its getting even harder for solo players or really small groups so kill the NM? Since before that they might have at least got a bit of help with the wheel but since that is now going to be nerfed..

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Originally Posted by Lilseph

Nono, what they meant is the elemental sync. Say, you have 5 elemental points on Fire. The NM syncs you down to level 9, it means that you'd lose 2 of these 5 points because you're under level 13/17.

With the current system, only your level goes down, as you still keep your 5 elemental points.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Retaining magicite after level sync is a major contributor towards the NMs melting as quickly as they do now, so changing that will make things easier on the late-comers.

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By comparison, we have the same thing with the role abilities. Doesn't really seem like a nerf and more like an obvious mistake. Low level NMs melt as fast as 2.0 hunts, so this definitely would give late-comers a chance at better ratings and rewards.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

So did he misunderstood them too?

Anyway wouldnt that change mean that its getting even harder for solo players or really small groups so kill the NM? Since before that they might have at least got a bit of help with the wheel but since that is now going to be nerfed..

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I think the problem is arrogance tbh. The same kind that did 1.0 in. Basically my view is this on the whole situation. They release something, whatever it may be, people speak on problems, then turn around and think this "Oh it will be fine, we will release this and people will buy it anyway. It is FF, no way FF game will fail, so no need to put in extra effort to change things"

(In other words they do not care what we say, they just want to put the least amount of effort and time in this game, the same thing that happened with the glam dresser "glams made easy" or the MSQ change. Putting in so little effort because it is less money put in)

I been trying to read the Japanese OF about this and here is one (weak) example of them basically wanting level sync (a reasonably way to play with friends)

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Originally Posted by Dolch

まず誰もが感じる「たかが染色装備にどれだけ苦行やらせる気なんだ？」という点
これはEL20ならそれなりの労力で済むようになっており、開発はそれ前提で調整していると予想してます
まぁカンストさせる前にみんな脱落してるわけですが

雑魚狩りがメインであるにもかかわらず、倒して手に入るのはほぼ経験値のみで虚無感満載
マゾい経験値稼ぎを超えても得られるのはレベル補正の緩和（マイナススタート）だけで、スキルや装備といった成長性が皆無
コンテンツ前提で作られた14のバトルシステムでフィールドの雑魚を狩らせる（空島問題が一切解決されていない）
GCDにチャット挟めとおっしゃる？いくらギミックなくてもスキルを絶え間なく使う操作性で長時間雑魚狩りしたら腱鞘炎になりますよ(｀・ω・´)
新生当初売りにしていた誰も損しない横殴りシステムを何故か自ら潰す
属性システムも敵に合わせて回すだけでただ手間が増えただけで面白さに繋がらない
PT内でもレベル差が許されず募集が面倒、FCメンバーやフレンドと遊べない
バランスのみを追求し、鬱屈とした14のゲーム性をエウレカ内では壊してくれると楽しみにしてたんですが…

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This is talking about how it is hard to play with FC friends (note "PT and FC being used here) it has 71 likes, also it should be noted that earlier in the post it seems like this person is disagreeing on the idea reaching level 20 is "reasonable effort". I also believe where "GCD" is said, they are talking about talking/chatting as they play, how hard it is, basically what we been complaining about with how hard it is to talk with the button mashing. (seems to be a comment to someone talking about how they can talk while GCD is on cooldown)

ofc I may be off but that is my understanding of the post.

I don't think that will help. It's more that low levels don't have aetherytes or mounts, which means that they can't easily get to many battles from across the map. They also have more risk of aggro, because the aggro declines dramatically just with a few levels difference between you and the mob. You only need to hit the mob once or twice to get full credit in a party.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

So did he misunderstood them too?

Anyway wouldnt that change mean that its getting even harder for solo players or really small groups so kill the NM? Since before that they might have at least got a bit of help with the wheel but since that is now going to be nerfed..

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Ye it is a misguided change, from one point it allows NM to live longer, which is good because you can get the full experience of their fight, but it doesn't solve anything else.
At this point I'd rather have them considering increasing Exp of lower rank NM if you are at the appropriate level (I do feel like the exp decreases if you are higher levelled)

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Why is everyone fighting so hard to get more solo content in an MMORPG? This is starting to baffle me. I play this game to play with others not so I can end up questing alone in the end. If I wanted to play alone I would go get a single player game. Maybe someone can explain to me why individuals come to a massive multiplayer game asking to be a lone wolf?? Because I just don't get it. Like I understand people have social anxieties, so do I. But like... I don't start demanding solo content from an MMO game that I picked full well knowing to expect to be thrown into parties. Maybe someone can explain it to me in a better way than "I just want to play alone sometimes because parties stress me out".

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Because having options never kills anyone. Why do some people insist of having only one way of doing things? If you only have one course of action, your audance is limited. On the other side of things, it would be nice to give players options for briefs of limited time, like I got 30 mins to kill before work, I can do expert but not diadem 3.0 because it requires too much in one sitting.

We are not asking for solo play to be more efficient, everyone agrees that should come with grouping up. However in diadem 3.0's current state you really do not gain anything solo when your time is limited in that brief moment.

this isn't the 1990's anymore where you needed 2 hrs + with a group just to get some exp.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

yeah it is stupid, it is confusing to me as well since from my understanding, the Japanese of was asking for a level sync so they can play with friends.

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See, that's really odd. I wonder if it was just poorly explained in the first place and then got further lost in translation.

Guess we'll have to wait and see what they actually do.

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Originally Posted by Tridus

See, that's really odd. I wonder if it was just poorly explained in the first place and then got further lost in translation.

Guess we'll have to wait and see what they actually do.

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ya did you see my example? i mean there where others, just that one is where i am at currently before i stopped.