You know FFXIV's immenent "Death" is blatant lies when...

Also, search feature is back in a way where they can see a list of names now...while they could always have sent us tells pre-patch, it was much more difficult to see 200 names at once for your spam-telling pleasure.

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Originally Posted by Kinseykinz

Also, search feature is back in a way where they can see a list of names now...while they could always have sent us tells pre-patch, it was much more difficult to see 200 names at once for your spam-telling pleasure.

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that is a good point and one i had not considered.

+1 for thinking rationally.

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Also, search feature is back in a way where they can see a list of names now...while they could always have sent us tells pre-patch, it was much more difficult to see 200 names at once for your spam-telling pleasure.

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This thread didnt turn out the way the OP envisioned.

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

This thread didnt turn out the way the OP envisioned.

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Really? How do you know what my vision for my original post was? Are you clairvoyant? Maybe I had no vision, or considering this is a hot thread, maybe everything has happened all according to my evil and insidious plans. :3

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

I got the exact same spam as Forerunner :D instant blacklist + report.

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That was just the other night during our darkhold run well after wards how come you were the lucky one that got the tell ^_^

I wasn't trying to troll the OP or even imply I think the game is Dying... I was just adding an idea why I thought maybe they were seeing more RMT /t's all the sudden. My intention was not to be mean. Sorry if it was taken that way. Merry Christmas all :)

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

The RMTs return, and they are soliciting you ingame. Happened to some ppl I know.

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Convince them to all go play SWTOR instead....

/display sarcasm off

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Originally Posted by AmyRae

The presence of RMT means there are idiots buying gil, nothing more. It's an indication of wasteful spending on the part of some players, not that the population of the game is thriving.

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Actually, it's known that RMT won't bother with a game that wouldn't turn a profit if the game itself is dead or dying, while they may make some money, RMT are ran by actual businesses whom have actual offices -- So it may mean "its just players are buying gil and nothing more" but a business is a business, in the end.

RMT is not an accurate measurement of a game's eminent success or death. It could just be a gauge of easily exploitable game design.

Cue the people raving for open world crap, etc.

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

RMT is not an accurate measurement of a game's eminent success or death. It could just be a gauge of easily exploitable game design.

Cue the people raving for open world crap, etc.

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You clearly missed the point, RMTs are running a business. They will go where they can make a profit, a dead or dying game is not profitable to them, therefore, they will not devote time and resources to one when they can make a better profit from other games.

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You clearly missed the point, RMTs are running a business. They will go where they can make a profit, a dead or dying game is not profitable to them, therefore, they will not devote time and resources to one when they can make a better profit from other games.

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Its possible they are trying to unload massive amounts of gil they made over the past year before the game starts its sub fees. They might actually think the game WILL die with sub fees and are trying to offload as much gil as they can before the ship sinks.

the game is free so they can make plenty of profit without paying any subs for all those characters....it only makes sense to do it. If they stay after the charge, then thats a different story.

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

why do RMT always choose Lalafel ? lol

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Due to size they are more efficient for slave labor. Less food, less cloth for clothes, smaller hands to process the shell casings...

Too far on the casings comment?

I posted these numbers in another post in regards total player count and server population;

If you go to ffxivpro.com and check player achievements under the linkshell menu and compare ls member scores, you will notice that a mule char with 50 achievement points is ranked between 16,000 and 21,000 (depending on your server) and under overall rank probably 300,000-315,000.

This just goes to point out there are roughly 315,000 characters spread over the 18 servers = 17,500 or so characters per server. That is a pretty good sum of characters per server.

I know its free so there most certainly are lots of mules and i knjow many hardcore players are dual boxing more than one account on the same server. So even if you divide the number of characters per server by 2 (1 main+1mule per human player0 that leaves ever server with 17k-18k characters = 9k main chars+9k alts/mules = 9,000 human player/subscribers per server.

300K characters/by 2/3 chars per human = 100-150,000 PC subscribers total

150,000 subscribers x 15$ = $2,250,000 per month x 12 months = $27,000,000 annual subscriber revenue

Now lets say by the time PS3 and FFXIV 2.0 comes out sales are strong. If SE can multiply the player base by 10, meaning 1,000,000-1,500,000 players spread over 18 servers or 20 assuming they add a couple, thats 50,000 players per server. I know these are numbers that the CEOs are probably praying for but the point was that the current player base still could generate SE 27mil in profits. If they increase their player base with PS3 and 2.0 all the better for them.

Of course these numbers could be full of shit and i could be entirely wrong. But i can only rely on the numbers that ffxipro presents seeing as SE hasnt yet implemented a /sea all function.

As for the gil sellers, most certainly they are profiting off of players who are putting 10 bucks a month into gil instead of a monthly sub fee seeing as the game is free. Hopefully a subscription fee will decrease RMT in that ppl that are currently buying gil wil be discouraged since they will need to pay for the game soon too...

Just my 2gil guys. Lemme know what you think of the numbers. I really just made rough math out of it.

^ you do realize those achievements from the start of the game, so everyone who made a character (or multi) from day one are listed. so like 500K+ people bought the game....do you think even 1/10 of them are even playing?

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^ you do realize those achievements from the start of the game, so everyone who made a character (or multi) from day one are listed. so like 500K+ people bought the game....do you think even 1/10 of them are even playing?

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exactly that just means since the game released 315k people played the game long enough to make any achievement at all. we already know that we lost the vast majority of players in the mass exodus late last year. those players are still counted even though most of them have probably not even signed in since then.

it also counts the massive amount of people with not only 1 mule, but multiples. i know in my small ls alone that at least 15 mules are being deleted that have at least 1 class over 20. those mules are counted also.