Change Male and Female Glamour Restrictions

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Originally Posted by Esper

Stormblood Whm artifact makes you look like a princess as a woman. I'm not sure why male players want to dress like a princess.

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Try to think outside your narrow mindset.

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Originally Posted by Jaibamon

Can I pick a girl character with an A cup?

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I think you have already

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Originally Posted by Serilda

Yes, but the horns that my very manly man can wear in FFXIV are specifically called 'Succubus' horns. It's confusing when one minute they're hyper-sensitive about gender segregation in item names and concepts, then the next they don't care and we can equip miniskirts, thigh-high stockings, painted fingernails and electric pink lipstick. Which is it?! :(

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Because in the end horns are just horns, succubus or not. I bet you that many players dont even know what a succubus is, let alone that theyre females.
In the end they couldve also called it an incubus horn and no one wouldve cared. The item looks neutral, so why make 2 versions in the end when one version is enough for both?
Did you REALLY expect the devs to make a replica of the original succubus item that looks the same just so they can make a counterpart called incubus horns?
Theres one item which works fine for both genders, they had to pick incubus or succubus for it and went with the latter because we dont need to start using politically correct terms on every item in a goddamn game.
those horns are a bad example. The "painted fingernails" as you call them are beast claws btw. And depending on what youre going for, beast claws sure can be fine on a male char, so I kinda get why its not genderlocked.
Using items in a "out of the box" way to achieve crossdressing goals doesnt exactly prove your point that SE is supporting cross dressing. Using electric pink lipstick on your male char in the character customization
is simply them being too lazy to remove that feature and replace it with something else. Many things is simply SE being lazy otherwise you wouldnt find those contradicting examples you gave.

As for the "but theres male and female bunnies". Yes, there are...but its not a neutral full body suit of a bunny, its a sexy bunny outfit with fishnet stockings, high heels, panties and a corsage with an oversized ribbon attached to it. is something that heavily gets associated with women. Playboy bunnies come to mind. And theyre not males. Do I agree that guys shouldve gotten something else for themselves? Absolutely.
Do I think it needs to be an adjusted male bunny costume? No, absolutely not.

and then this person here says this:

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Originally Posted by Esper

Stormblood Whm artifact makes you look like a princess as a woman. I'm not sure why male players want to dress like a princess.
You can argue it looks better but reality of the situation is you as a male will Probably not look great in some whm pumps and knee high socks singing goodbye horses nono.

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And your reply to that is .....THIS?!

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Originally Posted by Serilda

Strange how many people on the Internet passionately hate the male body.

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this is why I cant take anything you and a few others say seriously. Apparently DISLIKING men in feminine clothing equals to HATING the male body ....according to you.

I CANT EVEN.... /facedesk.

If it helps I'm not worried that you don't take me seriously :)

What sounds a lot like hating the male body are the constant patronising reminders that girls wearing pants is fine, but male characters in gear the developers specifically modelled for us is suddenly 'dudes in skirts' with all of the mockery that comes with it. Nobody mocks players with female characters who say they want to wear more pants or have fewer low cut sexy costumes, and rightly so. There's no vitriol shown towards female characters who wear masculine items like the fake moustache either. In this community, a vocal minority acts as though anyone without a female character having fun is committing a crime.

My point about the horns is that they have an illogical inconsistency here. The GARO gear is a bloated mess of gender locked clothes because they had to have separate names for the priest and priestess versions, even though the technology exists to just make them look different. I'm fine with them looking different if that's their vision; I look great in the male-only caster coat. We can't have bunny ears (not talking about the rest, just the hat) because they're too feminine (?!?) but we can have feminine horns with a feminine name and tiara? Ok then. They didn't have to make two items at all. Horns of the Void, Lust Tiara, there are plenty of lore-appropriate possibilities that avoided the feminine name. Obviously I don't mind it myself. I just think it's dumb in a world where bunnies are so girly they have to be locked away.

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Originally Posted by Felis

I think you have already

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Still too big, miss. Also Auri emotes are super feminine, like if they were too delicate, it makes me uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by Draven

How about, NO! You wanna be a girl, roll a girl ya fairy! xD

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Why does this have six likes? Not surprised though, this is the standard the OF lives up to.

I wish female characters could wear the butler set, it seems like it is already fitted for female characters... just locked.

How about they make it equal by having more male gender oriented clothing come out instead of making most of it look like it's made for female players.(avatars)

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Why does this have six likes? Not surprised though, this is the standard the OF lives up to.

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This, like omg.

Anyway I much prefer the sorceress looking collar on the female WHM AF3, the male one is kinda boring and doesn't have anything outstanding about it.

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Originally Posted by Felis

I think you have already

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You can't make a 100% flat toon unless you go Lala. Wish we could, at least then we could make androgynous characters :c

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I'm all for more unisex outfits. My Auri guy looks better in croptops and skirts than female toons lmao

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Originally Posted by Rokke

You can't make a 100% flat toon unless you go Lala. Wish we could, at least then we could make androgynous characters :c

@ topic -
I'm all for more unisex outfits. My Auri guy looks better in croptops and skirts than female toons lmao

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It's because male Aura have them sexy hips

More gender-locked sets please. I'm so tired of the effeminate unisex style (i.e. AST 3.0 AF/majority of dungeon sets) making most gear for masculine casters/healers unwearable.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Try to think outside your narrow mindset.

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I'm trying but it's hard to keep a straight face... now I'm thinking of the /smooch emote.. buhaha!

I think sometimes it's a case of 'the grass is always greener.' I look at some of the sets and prefer the male version, even though I want my character to stay female. For example, I think most of the male Garo sets are much better than the female.

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Originally Posted by Draven

How about, NO! You wanna be a girl, roll a girl ya fairy! xD

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this is why these topics go to hell with posts like this.

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Originally Posted by Mikhaill

this is why these topics go to hell with posts like this.

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just like the forums go to hell with threads like these. \o/

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I think they exist because the gear has to be made to work for different body types, I don't think it's quite like flipping a switch, there's some non-trivial amount of work someone has to do to make female gear meshes be the right shape for male bodies. And they probably think that time would be better spent on something else because the number of guys who want to wear dresses is relatively small.

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Almost correct.

The artists clearly have to make separate male and female versions of everything already, allowing them to switch isn't possible except with the lalafells since the body shapes are identical. However this overlooks the need to make animations work with those gear types. In case you haven't noticed there is some jiggle animation in the cloth gear that doesn't exist in the rigid gear. I'm sure the walk/run cycles and emote control points is probably baked into each gear as well.

For the amount of time spent wearing any specific gear, I'm going to say that the developers likely don't see any point in doing this for anything but costume gear, hence why some of it is gender locked. It's locked because they didn't create a version for the other gender. Likewise with race-locked clothing, other than starter clothes I haven't seen anything else that is race locked.

Likely every piece of gear in the game has 12 "versions" of which the Hyur/Miqo'te/Au Ra are aliased over each other. So to allow "cross-dressing" per se would require 24 versions of every piece of gear, and that just isn't going to happen for every piece of gear because most gear other than costume gear is thrown away once you out-level it.