PS4 Pro users: do you feel lied to?

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Originally Posted by Mantra

If you are that bothered about FPS buy a PC, not hard really.

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Comments like this do not contribute to the discussion. This has nothing to do with PC. It's a discussion about an entirely different platform altogether. Please keep this stuff outta here.

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

Comments like this do not contribute to the discussion. This has nothing to do with PC. It's a discussion about an entirely different platform altogether. Please keep this stuff outta here.

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Hate to say it but this is how consoles work. You won't ever see locked stable 60 FPS in town unless you go for a PC with a strong CPU. That's the reality.
If the game goes above 30 FPS in other places except towns then they didn't lie to you.

For the fourth time (probably), this isn't about LOCKED fps.

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

It was in a Live Letter. The exact quote from it is a message or two above.

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Only, it's not the exact quote.

And yet, if you go back to the Live Letter thread from the time, it is a direct quote. Look, this thread is for people to post their opinions on the matter, whether they're seeing FPS increases or not. Could we stop clogging it with nonsense?

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

Comments like this do not contribute to the discussion. This has nothing to do with PC. It's a discussion about an entirely different platform altogether. Please keep this stuff outta here.

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Ignoring the solution to getting the performance you want doesn't contribute either. So again, If you want high FPS get a pc.

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Originally Posted by Mantra

Ignoring the solution to getting the performance you want doesn't contribute either. So again, If you want high FPS get a pc.

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Okay bud, I'll keep that in mind.

Anyway, back to the actual topic at hand.

The hardware isn't powerful enough. It has nothing to do with the developers.

x box one x games being developed right now have confirmed 30 fps for the most powerful console ever...

gg

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Originally Posted by Shadowsun

x box one x games being developed right now have confirmed 30 fps for the most powerful console ever...

gg

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Lazy developers, not poor hardware.

Well 1080p users with Pro have been screwed over.

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Originally Posted by Orbiaus

Well 1080p users with Pro have been screwed over.

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Agreed. Feeling pretty screwed.

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

Lazy developers, not poor hardware.

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Are you stupid?

Hardware is the main issue, a $399 PS4 Pro vs a $399-$499 GTX 1070 just the card alone can pull 3x more FPS. A patch isn't going to make x2 more FPS in area. Just optimized more memory usage and allocation of processors for the game instead of running other Social media app behind.

Most likely would see 10-15fps increase but it can hit 60fps PEAK not constant.

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GTX 1070 has 6.5 TFLOPs CARD ALONE NOT COUNTING CPU! With CPU depends which model, PC hardware is beyond 10 TFLOPS.

Back to the point, console has limitation. PC can overclock GPU and CPU. Means GTX 1070 can pull more TFLOPS.

So it's not up to developer being lazy, the game FFXIV running 130-180 FPS here for me at 2560x1440 resolution. MEANWHILE PS4 Pro is having issues. Well OBVIOUSLY!

These are some harsh forums, man.

Looks like it on our PS4 (pro).

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

Okay bud, I'll keep that in mind.

Anyway, back to the actual topic at hand.

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Back to the topic at hand? I havent gone off topic. You made a topic crying about performance and ive stated facts that if you want performance buy a pc. Not my fault you cant read and digest facts.

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Originally Posted by eschaton

Looks like it on our PS4 (pro).

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Sorry to hear that.

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Originally Posted by Mantra

Back to the topic at hand? I havent gone off topic. You made a topic crying about performance and ive stated facts that if you want performance buy a pc. Not my fault you cant read and digest facts.

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Not crying about performance. Inquiring about why the information in a Live Letter was false.

Based on "With this mode, you can expect a stable 60FPS", I got a PS4 Pro.
I didn't understood it would be a locked 60FPS. I understood I could expect 60FPS.

What I get is some stable 30FPS.

Disappointed, to say the least.

This topic is about PS4 Pro users' feedback regarding the framerate option.
Comments about PC are off topic and taunting.
If you're not a developper who actually worked on that PS4 Pro's option, please stay silent about such option's feasability.

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Originally Posted by yotsuffy

Based on "With this mode, you can expect a stable 60FPS", I got a PS4 Pro.
I didn't understood it would be a locked 60FPS. I understood I could expect 60FPS.

What I get is some stable 30FPS.

Disappointed, to say the least.

This topic is about PS4 Pro users' feedback regarding the framerate option.
Comments about PC are off topic and taunting.
If you're not a developper who actually worked on that PS4 Pro's option, please stay silent about such option's feasability.

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Thank you. Rhalgr's Reach is an absolute ~20fps shitshow right now.

Kugane is a NIGHTMARE. Not even close to a stable 60. Not even 30.

The servers are EXTREMELY overloaded right now. Maybe check again once things have settled a bit?

atleast give us option to maintain the standard ps4 fps + increased 1080p graphics

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Originally Posted by Zarabeth

The servers are EXTREMELY overloaded right now. Maybe check again once things have settled a bit?

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Server issue has nothing to do with frame rate and gameplay. Also, PS4 user are more limited to how many people/monster/npc they see compared to pc user. If the Pro has issue now, it just means the difference is barely minimum compared to the OG ps4.

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Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle

Server issue has nothing to do with frame rate and gameplay. Also, PS4 user are more limited to how many people/monster/npc they see compared to pc user. If the Pro has issue now, it just means the difference is barely minimum compared to the OG ps4.

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I think he kinda meant that there are a ton of people in the areas, thus giving the framerate a hit, he just worded it a bit strangely.

Ho and I forget to add: I have done nothing yet related to Stormblood.
I spent my playtime this week-end working on my second relic. Lv60 donjons and Dun Scaith raids.
Idyllshire looks better, OF COURSE: it's empty.

One easy test: enter Coerthas Western Highlands from the Dravanian Forelands. Rotate the view at constant speed. When you see the mountain you came from, it's ok. As soon as you see the east, framerate falls; you can see frames jump just like on a standard PS4.
Scarcely populated area.

The SSD I had on the standard PS4 being in the PS4 Pro.

Nothing changed. Minus the 400EUR spent.

No I don't feel lied too.

Chiming in here . on my pro even during raubahn ex in the fringe my pro has maintained 60 fps on standard mode the entire time. The difference was hardly noticeable from boost mode however until I went into frontline

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Originally Posted by Cynric

Chiming in here . on my pro even during raubahn ex in the fringe my pro has maintained 60 fps on standard mode the entire time. The difference was hardly noticeable from boost mode however until I went into frontline

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Unless your PS4 Pro is significantly more powerful than all others, you were not at 60fps during that debacle. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

No you don't, you need a counter to give real values. FPS jumps are very noticeable and you can even guess the frame rate.

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You can only tell when the jumps are large. A jump between 24 and 48 is noticeable, a jump between 50 and 60, not so much.

I don't have a PS4/PS4 Pro, but I run the PC client at 4K at 50-60fps and mostly what happens is that things that can't be seen disappear, like quest icons when there are 50 people standing in front of it.

The thing I find with 4K, is that it makes the backgrounds look nicer, but does absolutely nothing for the foreground, if anything some foreground stuff like really bad when zoomed in because you can make out the polygon edges and the low-resolution textures.

Don't feel lied too, for the specifications (and the current state is way beyond what the game will always be like in terms of population) of the Pro, it is doing a fantastic job. I have the 'High' graphic setting for the additional features, and full animations from everyone, and even running around Kugane or getting into huge FATEs the frame rate has been more than acceptable, I don't think I've ever felt like I was being hard done to by it at all or struggling to control / react due to frame rate trouble.

Compared to using Boost alone, it seems to be a much smoother curve of performance, and much less instances of dropping to the point where it becomes frustrating. PvP was much, much smoother than prior as well.


Also, miles beyond the baseline PS4. Definitely really been happy with it so far, would recommend to those perhaps on the fence about it.

The only place I get HORRID framerate is Kugane. Ala Mhigo dungeon also has weird obvious drops. No reason it shouldn't be 60 in a dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

If i cant get 60 fps in hugely crowded areas with an overclocked i7 and a gtx980ti, what makes you think the ps4 pro can with a tablet processor?

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You make too much sense. What are you doing in this thread?

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

Unless your PS4 Pro is significantly more powerful than all others, you were not at 60fps during that debacle. Sorry.

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My framerate has been mostly the same and stable this entire time. Who are you to tell me when I can see it with my own eyes. I know the difference between 30/60/100+ it would be very obvious if I dropped down.

I also have a lot of things turned off or on. nameplates are off HP bars are on for me and my party, effects turned down. Anything could help attribute to my framerate stability.

Now if it were to drop to say 58 for a second it'd be obvious it dropped but I wouldn't know the precise amount or care either.

Though I really am being honest with you when I say I have seen no huge FPS drops like has been described here.

Kugane has been smooth, Frontlines was mostly smooth before Pro patch with boost mode anyway and now its dropless, Dungeons have been smooth, even the Fringe yes was smooth, though that didn't really matter at the time anyway.( Still had the error)

Don't really know what else to tell you other than what I've experienced. Aside from DCing sooo much during the first few EA days and the Cold Steel issue I haven't really had much problems.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

Kugane has been smooth, Frontlines was mostly smooth before Pro patch with boost mode anyway and now its dropless, Dungeons have been smooth, even the Fringe yes was smooth, though that didn't really matter at the time anyway.( Still had the error)

Don't really know what else to tell you other than what I've experienced. Aside from DCing sooo much during the first few EA days and the Cold Steel issue I haven't really had much problems.

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care to share your settings for FPS improvement? Kugane is sub-30fps 100% of the time for me.

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

care to share your settings for FPS improvement? Kugane is sub-30fps 100% of the time for me.

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Im not a PS4 user but my suggestion would be that you turn everything to lowest at first and then start rising each setting one by one, tho i would keep shadows in minium and stuff like glare off and maybe tweak some water reflections as i found those being most taxing ones.

Tonight, playtime 2h30, I had no framerate issues AT ALL for 2h20:

- LOGIN queue time: 1h50
- DUTY queue time: 30min
next 10min were acceptable; really no idea, duty pop woke me up.

That makes a ratio of (2h20/2h30 =) +93% unarguably positive framerate feedback.

Improving.

Still waiting for the magical settings that make Kugane not run like ass.

Listen guys I've got the PlayStation 4 pro, and the patch absolutely works no doubt as the performance in 4k is around 30fps, and the standard PS4 mode hits 60fps most of the time, and it's never dropped anywhere below 50 to 55 fps even in the most crowded of areas or even dungeons as the games performance is significantly improved as I couldn't play this game on regular PS4 as the frame rate was just to low for me to enjoy as 30fps feels terrible to me, and so yea this new 60fps patch has got me playing the free trial I'm a level 21 now I'm having a great time, and the new 60fps PlayStation 4 pro patch is directly responsible for that.

This thread title reminds me a lot about threads like "will you quit the game if we get a new patch and can't play during maintenance?". A thread that already in its title opens only for grumbling and yelling and not actually trying to fix anything. It reeks of attitude and makes it difficult to keep a serious tone.