[dev1206] Traits Question

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12-13-2011, 07:44 AM
TinnySnips

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Originally Posted by grandm

i know why a certain class has a certain trait. what i'm asking is how a trait to increase your damage output can be passive. passive is when your weapons is away, no?

Not in this context. It just means that it doesn't require any action to be taken. It is "always on."
12-13-2011, 07:46 AM
Belial

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandm

i know why a certain class has a certain trait. what i'm asking is how a trait to increase your damage output can be passive. passive is when your weapons is away, no?

It works the same way traits do now. You equip 'em, they work. No action is required.
12-13-2011, 07:50 AM
Fiosha_Maureiba

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandm

i know why a certain class has a certain trait. what i'm asking is how a trait to increase your damage output can be passive. passive is when your weapons is away, no?

I think I can see where you're coming from now.

Passive abilities is a game term that means its always on.
Active abilities is a term that means the player (or NPC) has to turn on the ability themselves.

Like eating a lalafell is an active ability. My body digests the rest passively.
12-13-2011, 07:50 AM
Ruri

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Originally Posted by Krausus

we already have the bar in game so unless they plan to remove that bar which it didnt state they where then i think it is a safe bet that it will still be there tomorrow.

Well I know about THAT bar, But I mean does it require us to USE traits on the action bar since they have a recast time?
12-13-2011, 07:51 AM
grandm

which makes sense until i read recast time, is this a typo then?
12-13-2011, 07:55 AM
Rubicon

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Originally Posted by Belial

Traits have always had a separate bar, makes no sense to change that now.

Edit:
Theory, but what the recast timers could refer to is when these traits "go active." As not all traits are active at all times, some require ability triggers.

Meaning, this trait activates due to WS1, Trait remains on cooldown for ~length of recast timer~.

Not likely, but possible.

Or it could me that if you swap jobs you can't immediately use the trait.
12-13-2011, 07:55 AM
Ruri

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandm

which makes sense until i read recast time, is this a typo then?

Thats the point of this thread but seem to be confusing people lol
12-13-2011, 08:02 AM
Rubicon

My thought is that the timers are so that you cannot immediately have the trait active when switching jobs. I can't think of an extreme example but say a GLA wanted to switch over to a mage class for immediate MP recovery during a boss battle. Something to that effect. Not sure if this is the reason but it makes sense to slightly nerf the changing of jobs during NM or boss battles. Prevents the job swapping = equipment swapping of FFXI.
12-13-2011, 08:03 AM
Belial

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Originally Posted by Rubicon

Or it could me that if you swap jobs you can't immediately use the trait.

That was mentioned earlier as well. Who knows, really. Now taking bets, patch drops first, dev responds first, go.
12-13-2011, 08:08 AM
Krausus

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandm

which makes sense until i read recast time, is this a typo then?

for now I'm assuming it is a typo, just like none of the CON traits being exclusive is probably also a typo.
12-13-2011, 08:33 AM
Fiosha_Maureiba

It is a typo.
12-13-2011, 11:30 AM
Bayohne

Heyo! In regards to traits having recast times, please disregard those as they were mistakenly inserted and have been removed. :) Sorry about the confusion it caused!
12-13-2011, 11:39 AM
Deminia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bayohne

Heyo! In regards to traits having recast times, please disregard those as they were mistakenly inserted and have been removed. :) Sorry about the confusion it caused!

Thank you for the clarification :) I am glad to hear it was indeed a typo.
12-13-2011, 12:25 PM
Bowen

(*Looks at thread*)
Today 9:30 PM
(*looks at clock*)
7:25 PM
WHAT KIND OF WIZARDRY IS THIS!?
12-13-2011, 12:46 PM
Answa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowen

(*Looks at thread*)
Today 9:30 PM
(*looks at clock*)
7:25 PM
WHAT KIND OF WIZARDRY IS THIS!?

Change your timezone. lawlz
12-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Mihana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowen

(*Looks at thread*)
Today 9:30 PM
(*looks at clock*)
7:25 PM
WHAT KIND OF WIZARDRY IS THIS!?

I agree, I think there's something buggy there! It's 8:15PM PST as I write this, yet it says in the Dev Tracker that it was updated at 9:30PM. Does it not reflect your own time zone settings? And before anyone asks, yes, my time zone is set correctly. (I checked it again just before posting this to be certain.)

EDIT: Changed my time zone, I noticed in the Dev Tracker it keeps the same time. So apparently the Dev Tracker doesn't take into effect time zone differences, instead basing it off EST I think. Interesting to note I guess.
12-13-2011, 01:22 PM
Ruri

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bayohne

Heyo! In regards to traits having recast times, please disregard those as they were mistakenly inserted and have been removed. :) Sorry about the confusion it caused!

Thanks Bayohne! /panic is over!
12-13-2011, 01:24 PM
Bowen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Answa

Change your timezone. lawlz

My timezone is correct. D:
12-13-2011, 06:10 PM
Fusionx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bayohne

Heyo! In regards to traits having recast times, please disregard those as they were mistakenly inserted and have been removed. :) Sorry about the confusion it caused!

Thank you magical talking Marlboro! I don't like being confuseded
12-14-2011, 01:00 AM
Kyra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bayohne

Heyo! In regards to traits having recast times, please disregard those as they were mistakenly inserted and have been removed. :) Sorry about the confusion it caused!

Dont be sorry Bayohne, it caused no confusion whatsoever for those of us with common sense and an understanding of playing computer games. But thanks for reassuring the idiots. :cool:

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