The Emporer's New Clothes (New Chinese Exclusive Items)

I feel that it would not be as unique once it is an in game model (other then the head piece) so I'm not concerned... however we still don't have the Nimbus cloud mount; which does concern me.

I'd very much like to see it available to us. Surely others do too?

Yes! Please add more historical outfits! I've been watching so many good dramas lately and really love the costumes.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

however we still don't have the Nimbus cloud mount; which does concern me.

I'd very much like to see it available to us. Surely others do too?

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Kinto'un? Nope.

The hairstyle that the female head in the middle has..what is that? It looks new °-°
Something like this..? Or am I just imagining things?
If it is new though, I want the set even more. Including a hairstyle is an instant buy argument for me.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

As if the game isn't riddled with such options already.

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And now it has one more.

Robes ARE the traditional style for mages in FF and many other media, so this should hardly be surprising. And even if it is, I find enough variation in healer gear that I only see the really voluminous robes rotate into my glamour very rarely (such as currently, when I was going for a Miko/priestly look). Of course, if longish coats similarly offend your aesthetic sensibilities, then you really are mostly out of luck I guess.

Will we ever get an NA/EU exclusive set? The closest we have is the thavnairian set, but only because of some obscure laws in china/korea

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Originally Posted by Anzaman

We don't share datacenter, so it's very rare to see half-naked people. :p

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Good for you, meanwhile on Aether, the bikini healers and the subligar tanks are running rampant, and the lingerie dps don't know what to do

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Originally Posted by Lukha

Of course, if longish coats similarly offend your aesthetic sensibilities, then you really are mostly out of luck I guess.

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There are plenty of sets that aren't long robes though. Look at the Primal Tomestone set, for example. Even mages end up with a pants and shirt combo, the shirt just having some added stuff to it. Before that the AF stuff for SCHs and BLMs was another pants and shirt combo, though WHMs and SMNs got more robe-like armor.

I'm happy to see more long coats and robes added to the game to be honest. I don't like being a mage in anything else. To each their own preference mind you, but I end up feeling disappointment when I have to glamour over the latest gear.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I feel that it would not be as unique once it is an in game model (other then the head piece) so I'm not concerned... however we still don't have the Nimbus cloud mount; which does concern me.

I'd very much like to see it available to us. Surely others do too?

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The WuKong clothes, mount, and emote were added to our game's data in 3.5 so it'll be in the mogstation soon.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

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The objects they wear on their hands and hairstyles, are just for art.
The art of previous outfits, also bring hairstyles or other objects in the hands, that finally do not appear in the game. (Referring to the Chinese and Korean costumes obviously)

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

The WuKong clothes, mount, and emote were added to our game's data in 3.5 so it'll be in the mogstation soon.

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...In game first?.. XD. I "like" the cash shop for making sure old seasonal stuff doesn't turn into a never can have ever again sort of thing (common in long lasting games), but I really dislike it for new stuff. Feels really crappy to see something cost the amount of a good game for a single digital item, and that was the only way to ever obtain it ;/

I dont mind if the "event" is a bit cheap, like no long story about it just a few materials that drop from say leveling dungeon and you can use an NPC or low-ish level craft to make it.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

...In game first?.. XD. I "like" the cash shop for making sure old seasonal stuff doesn't turn into a never can have ever again sort of thing (common in long lasting games), but I really dislike it for new stuff.

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The Chinese and Korean versions are published by other companies, so I assume there is some kind of legal stuff happening (like "Hey, we give you money for your gear design, so let us use it in our international version too") and that's why the outfits aren't for free but in the cash shop right away. Or it has to do with the fact that the outfits aren't for free in the Chinese/Korean versions either, so they can't give them to us just like that.

Not saying I like it like that..xD Just that it kind of makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

The Chinese and Korean versions are published by other companies, so I assume there is some kind of legal stuff happening (like "Hey, we give you money for your gear design, so let us use it in our international version too") and that's why the outfits aren't for free but in the cash shop right away. Or it has to do with the fact that the outfits aren't for free in the Chinese/Korean versions either, so they can't give them to us just like that.

Not saying I like it like that..xD Just that it kind of makes sense.

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True.. if our FFXIV crew didnt make them and had to buy the designs they wouldn't want to give them away for free. Booo /cry lol

That scroll could be a neat deviation to the arcanist weapons though :3.. Magical scroll that you float and open / close above hand and then rest by your side like two cute paper nunchucks. hehe.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

That scroll could be a neat deviation to the arcanist weapons though :3.. Magical scroll that you float and open / close above hand and then rest by your side like two cute paper nunchucks. hehe.

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I have totally wanted that for a while now >.<
I think I'm nearing my daily post cap limit, but I'll go ahead and take it over to the glamour gear suggestion thread anyways xD
MCH got it's handgun, MNK it's bare fists, PLD it's shieldless look, now it's time for some scrolls for SCH :D
(unless SB gives us a new class that uses scrolls as a weapon, as unlikely as it may be)

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Originally Posted by Lukha

And now it has one more.

Robes ARE the traditional style for mages in FF and many other media, so this should hardly be surprising. And even if it is, I find enough variation in healer gear that I only see the really voluminous robes rotate into my glamour very rarely (such as currently, when I was going for a Miko/priestly look). Of course, if longish coats similarly offend your aesthetic sensibilities, then you really are mostly out of luck I guess.

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I don't mind there being a large selection of robes/coats but it would be nice if we had at least half that number of options for non-pseudo-dress armor. And it's not just mages. While mages do get saddled with the bulk of pseudo-dress armor, all the classes seem to suffer from an over abundance of it. A few more options (for all classes) that aren't dresses can't hurt, and would probably up the diversity of glamours we see. Many people trying to escape the deluge of pseudo-dresses end up wearing the same stuff because the selection of non-pseudo-dress armor is so limited at the moment.

Do we play the same game? If you're not a mage, most of your sets are of the Non-Robe Non-Long-Coat variety. Some kilts and capes now and then, but still.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

Do we play the same game? If you're not a mage, most of your sets are of the Non-Robe Non-Long-Coat variety. Some kilts and capes now and then, but still.

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I guess we aren't playing the same game because while in the lower levels the DoW tend to have more non-pseudo-dress options, those become less and less the higher you go with more tunic type armor or outright pseudo-dress plate dominating the endgame gear. Just look at the armorer recipe list in the lvl 56-60 section. Every crafted body piece there goes far enough below the waist to be almost dress-like or has an outright skirt attached to it. Every. Single. One. Same can be said for the Heavens Ward (1) section. Things get a bit better in the Heavens Ward (2) section where the crafted gear has a fair number of non-dress-like armor options.

Most of the DoW chest options from Lore are dress-like too. It's slightly better with Scripture but still more tunics and in a couple cases pseudo-dresses.

Maybe what I consider "dress-like" is too broad a category, but would it kill SE to give us a few more options that don't have skirts/sashes/dangly bits going below the waist? Lower level DoW chest options like the Steel Cuirass are nice cause they aren't dangling down to your knees with skirts/embellishments/pseudo-dress-nonsense. Even the Thancred Modish outfit suffers from this. The body piece would be absolutely perfect if not for those green segments of cloth hanging from the sides for no apparent reason.

I'm not saying SE should stop making the pseudo-dress armor... just that it would be nice for a few more non-longcoat-longtunic-pseudo-dress armor options (for all classes, not just DoW) to be thrown into the mix. Variety is the spice of life after all.

Still waiting for that nimbus cloud...

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Originally Posted by Fuma

Still waiting for that nimbus cloud...

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Dragon Ball didn't invent Kinto'un, please stop calling it "Nimbus".

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Originally Posted by GMERC

Dragon Ball didn't invent Kinto'un, please stop calling it "Nimbus".

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Let's hope that's all from DBZ that translates into it for FFXIV. Otherwise no one on Balmung would be able to ride it. We'd all fall through.

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Originally Posted by GMERC

Dragon Ball didn't invent Kinto'un, please stop calling it "Nimbus".

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I think its cool to show history of something, like showing people DBZ's heavy leanings on Journey to the West, but if someone references something like Nimbus and we all know what they mean is it really incorrect? This isn't like calling a car a bike, this is like multiple names and variations developing over time. And it might even make more sense to reference the DBZ version over the birth version as if I recall correctly Wukong's cloud is more like a technique he knows to ride clouds, it's not really a specific cloud. While if we got a mount it would most likely, and more easily be explained via lore, a very specific cloud (like in the DBZ universe). I do believe the Japanese version uses the original/partner culture name but for English speakers none would know and none would be incorrect for using the name they were given by the studio. It IS nimbus now (for English DBZ at least), even if in another language it's not.

Would be a bit like telling SE they screwed up because they called it Kirin instead of Qilin. Or if vampire in another language was dope, and in English it was vampire - but now we have to call it dope even though we're playing a translated game. It could legitimately still be called a vampire without issue, even if using the original word may add more flare or history to the idea. I mean to say that forcing people to call it Kinto'un is both ignoring localization as cannon, might as well just not even respect anyone who plays in a different language than creator, and also an issue that Nimbus is actually specific variation of the original Wukong technique - so using nimbus transfers more information than kinto'un, and in this scenario that more information gives us a clearer picture of what they wanted.

All that said, the original names would probably be cooler and cause people to learn more than if SE just whipped out a "nimbus" and ooo ahh.. less neat lol. Also we have harry potter now so, yeah nimbus.. 2000? Xd

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I do believe the Japanese version uses the original/partner culture name but for English speakers none would know and none would be incorrect for using the name they were given by the studio. It IS nimbus now (for DBZ at least), even if in another language it's not.

Would be a bit like telling SE they screwed up because they called it Kirin instead of Qilin.

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The Kirin / Qilin analogy is closer to Kinto'un / Jindouyun, rather than Nimbus. Nimbus is more like if they had renamed Kirin "Unicorn"

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Originally Posted by GMERC

The Kirin / Qilin analogy is closer to Kinto'un / Jindouyun, rather than Nimbus. Nimbus is more like if they had renamed Kirin "Unicorn"

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Except Kirin isn't a Unicorn lol (It's not a horse with a horn, its a chimera like creature usually fish, dragon, deer and stuff like that). Nimbus is a modified Jindouyun. If anything Nimbus is probably painting a far more accurate representation of what people want than Kinto'un.

Most people don't know that Wukong can step on clouds or do massive jumps and all that stuff, they're thinking "magical cloud I can ride!". For them to say Nimbus tells me a lot more about what they want than if they said I want to Kinto'un!!

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Originally Posted by Adire

I don't think you understand either.

The Emperor's New Clothes = nudity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes

Besides, Korea and China have both been getting region exclusives relative to their cultures regularly. We have not.

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no actually i do understand what he meant i was stating that the image suits that of chinese dynasty era

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Originally Posted by Adire

A good business decision, sure. But at the price of excluding a huge chunk of your playerbase. It's wrong, unfair, and if done too much, can really upset the people who are being excluded (and possibly affect profit as a result).

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Entitlement
en•ti•tle•ment
/inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt/
noun
noun: entitlement; plural noun: entitlements
1. the fact of having a right to something.
"full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered"
synonyms: right, prerogative, claim;
2. the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
"no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement" just be happy we got the game and mog store they could have say "to hell with you NA data centers you dont get this." but they didnt they gave you a cookie now shhh...stop being salty

You know that next to being "fans" we are customers? Thus we are allowed to voice our criticisms if we find something not good? I mean this is not charity, we did not get the game for free. We pay for it monthly so I am sorry but this gives us the right to voice our opinion. It has nothing to do with entitlement..

If you go into a shop and buy the same thing someone else did and that person gets a discount for some strange reason and you dont, normally people will complain about it being not fair.

SE can do what they want but in the end they are a company that needs money to survive and if they piss off too many customers with such things than they will loose money ;). One might not stop paying for this product because of exclusive stuff but if there are more negative points than that...well lots of small things can also get people to stop paying for it. Maybe there are some Square Enix or Final Fantasy Fans that will always keep giving them money, even if SE behaves the worst way but in this world even a big company like SE needs to watch out for their customers. Especially with so many games out there.

(Calling other people kids even though they might be way older than you is kinda disrespectful. You can have your own opinion on this but being rude is never the way to go.)

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Originally Posted by Alleo

It has nothing to do with entitlement.

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Actually it does. You are entitled to have an opinion of something by default. We call that basic freedom or human rights - you're even entitled to an opinion of something you never participated in, from idle games over work, politics to crimes.
And as stakeholder, that opinion naturally carries some weight in the stakeholder approach of corporate governance.

There's no need to deny the involvement of entitlement. It's just a hollow buzzword.

There are already screenshots of the outfit in the game, I have put in this other post if you want to see them Here!

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Originally Posted by Yasmina

There are already screenshots of the outfit in the game, I have put in this other post if you want to see them Here!

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Looks pretty cool imo, I like beads and and dangling things (..plz no lol). Do the beads have physics? Like the ones on the jacket included, looks like the ones on the hat have a minor amount at least. I would doubt that many items would have physics but that'd certainly be something.

Also no scroll "book" weapon right? I really think that'd be a neat looking glamour ;3

I do belive these are the 'Emperor's Clothes'.
Not the 'Emperor's New Clothes'.

Bit of a difference.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

Both the Chinese and Korean Dress have been the same price so far, and while it is more expensive than other cash shop outfits, it's no 30 dollar moogle mount :rolleyes:

I'd absolutely love to have this in our version, but tbh, I expect it to look a lot worse ingame xD
Concept Art always makes clothes look so much more smooth and flowy and pretty, and then ingame it's always the same stiff texture..
But yeah. Want it. Gimme.

Just, you know, the actual clothes. Not REAL emperor's new clothes..;)

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INgame screenshots on the exclusivity thread.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4026625

Well now I'm just salty. That looks amazing and not too over the top. I'd ditch the hat personally, but the robe and kilt look fantastic.

Just... give it a few months. The eastern garb china exclusive came out on Mogstation eventually. I'm sure this will come to Mogstation eventually too. Don't forget the reason China gets exclusives (to compensate for restricted content, etc.). Cheer up everyone!

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Originally Posted by Darker_Midnight

Just... give it a few months. The eastern garb china exclusive came out on Mogstation eventually. I'm sure this will come to Mogstation eventually too. Don't forget the reason China gets exclusives (to compensate for restricted content, etc.). Cheer up everyone!

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I already wrote that in other threads: Can somebody please tell us what exactly so restricted? They get patches later and maybe some monsters changed. They still have the Gold Saucer. So no I dont see how this is a fair compensation. I do believe its more that the Chinese / Korean versions are not running that great and they need to find some ways to get people to play it. (Thats just my opinion)

The other eastern garb only came to us because people voiced their opinion. ;) If we just wait and hope for the best they wont come. Especially after Yoshida himself said that we should comment if we want it or not.

That outfit looks so good on paper. I love the drawing. Does anyone body has the actual look in game or are they still working on getting it in the Asian server?

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Originally Posted by JumperX

That outfit looks so good on paper. I love the drawing. Does anyone body has the actual look in game or are they still working on getting it in the Asian server?

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Here it is:

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Originally Posted by Yasmina

I got the first screenshots of the outfit in the game, I also confirm that all parts are dyeable!
For the moment I do not have screenshots of other dyed parts (only the skirt) nor any photos of hyur/au ra female, as soon as I find some edit the post placing them

http://imgur.com/cEXPVbi.png
http://imgur.com/88AKh1Q.png
http://imgur.com/bx7lxNS.png
http://imgur.com/I3ZWjWn.png
http://imgur.com/K1JJRrb.png

Edit 1:
Female miqo'te and dyed.
http://imgur.com/YxVepGT.png

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Here it is:

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Thank you. I love it. I wish we could get it.