What Weapon would a Chemist use?

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Earlier iterations would = Guns and Daggers. However since daggers and guns already belong to Ninja's and Machinists i think Chemist would have Vials as a weapon - which they throw.

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i don‘t see a problem using a gun+dagger combination, since we already have 2 jobs using magic staffs, 2 jobs using books etc...
i think a gun would be awesome. imagine throwing a vial up and shooting it down so it rains healing droplets from above on your team, or something that does dmg to enemies. would be neat if you ask me!
and we would leave the trope that healers have to be flashy and gracefully.

Im all for a dart gun or blow darts. Or just throw darts in general.

An endless satchel of small, thrown bottles!

No less reasonable than an endless quiver of arrows, imo.

bag, gotta take out that potion

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Earlier iterations would = Guns and Daggers. However since daggers and guns already belong to Ninja's and Machinists i think Chemist would have Vials as a weapon - which they throw.

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I don't think that saying one job using a weapon automatically excludes another from using it. Weapon model variations already have things like paladins with gunblades, dark knights with katanas, and monks with stabby, dagger-like fists.

They could make the apothecary gun a pistol as opposed to a rifle and that could be enough to easily differentiate them. Or if daggers, it could simply be one dagger in hand as opposed to dual wielding them like rogue/ninja

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Originally Posted by wereotter

They could make the apothecary gun a pistol as opposed to a rifle and that could be enough to easily differentiate them. Or if daggers, it could simply be one dagger in hand as opposed to dual wielding them like rogue/ninja

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Yes, however that's not going to happen. I think people are forgetting that the weapons that these jobs have correspond to that job. Giving a Chemist a Gun or Dagger would be weird. You have to consider what animations they would even come up with that a Chemist would use that would utilize a Gun or Dagger to heal people, etc. So Vials would be the thing to come to mind because it's a chemist. They deal with potions.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Yes, however that's not going to happen. I think people are forgetting that the weapons that these jobs have correspond to that job. Giving a Chemist a Gun or Dagger would be weird. You have to consider what animations they would even come up with that a Chemist would use that would utilize a Gun or Dagger to heal people, etc. So Vials would be the thing to come to mind because it's a chemist. They deal with potions.

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But vials aren't a weapon.
That's like Bards weapon being arrows, or MCHs weapon being bullets.

Having a bag full of vials isn't much of a weapon either.

A launcher however that fires the vials of potions, and grenades for dps...

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=en

/chemist

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

But vials aren't a weapon.
That's like Bards weapon being arrows, or MCHs weapon being bullets.

Having a bag full of vials isn't much of a weapon either.

A launcher however that fires the vials of potions, and grenades for dps...

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It's the contents within the vials. I think people in general are still forgetting what Chemists do. So i'll iterate again. They throw potions/items. So their attacks would be....throwing potions/vials consisting of various concoctions. The animations for skills would be them mixing the vials and such.

Of course this is all speculation and my own personal wants. However i don't see them doing the same thing they did in previous iterations like FFT, FFX-2, etc.

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Originally Posted by SonyTriple

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I think you are referring to the hinted at healer class that uses potions and not magic. The name is kind of up in the air, as we already have Almechmy as a Profession. So calling them a Chemist is kind of strange.

But what weapon, it would be a tech-based weapon that can do both heals and DPS. So my thinking is the Healer Gun, as seen in many other videos games over the years.

https://i.imgur.com/OkD8aWA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YgZCasR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9apqBCO.png

This would be good, as we need a third magitek class to round it out, we have DPS & Tanking Magitek, so heals make sense.

oh and reminder... we fought someone of this class already.

https://i.imgur.com/OfGfyr6.jpg

granted he had a magitek chair to fight with, but I think healer guns would be far more effective.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

Also hi going on 4 year old necro XD

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wait, wat?!?!

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Definitely Bells :P

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Oh, necro-Crit.

Traditionally Chemists use guns, daggers or bombs (thrown items). At least in FF Tactics where I saw them last.

Dancers used daggers in previous games, that's not the case in XIV; I believe the same won't be true about chemist in XIV.

A staff of caduceus. They'd heal by pouring their potions on the staff and whacking
their party members upside the head with it.

We have an alchemist. It makes potions. We don’t need a chemist to make ... potions...

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Originally Posted by Ransom

whacking their party members upside the head with it.

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Frankly, this would be a healers dream come true as it is something all main healers want to do to at least 1 person in nearly every party ever ran.

Explosive flasks.

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every weapon they have been known to wield also has seemingly been taken already

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Yeah, there's no place for overlaping weapons.

How could you ever tell a sword user apart from another sword user apart a third sword user apart from yet another sword user.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

We have an alchemist. It makes potions. We don’t need a chemist to make ... potions...

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Chemist doesn't need to make them, it uses them in battle, an army field medic isn't out there in the middle of battle weaving bandages and brewing antiseptics just like a hospital doctor isn't going to be practising in the middle of a battlefield, you can have the same skills applied differently or used by two separate groups to achieve different goals.
Alchemist create and use potions in a controlled environment, Chemist takes them into battle to use in combat.
No different than a Blacksmith creating a sword but not being a seasoned warrior where as the Gladiator is but has no idea how to forge one.

FF traditionally have them use Guns, I personally think Chemist is abit too limiting maybe Apothecary or Medic to open more possibilities. Especially if they are going for more industrial feel ie Garleon or straight up enhanced potion pack mule feel like Thavnair

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Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush

Chemist doesn't need to make them, it uses them in battle, an army field medic isn't out there in the middle of battle weaving bandages and brewing antiseptics just like a hospital doctor isn't going to be practising in the middle of a battlefield, you can have the same skills applied differently or used by two separate groups to achieve different goals.
Alchemist create and use potions in a controlled environment, Chemist takes them into battle to use in combat.
No different than a Blacksmith creating a sword but not being a seasoned warrior where as the Gladiator is but has no idea how to forge one.

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That is the dumbest response I’ve ever heard. Look at the two names. ALchemist and a chemist. It’s the same damn job doing the same damn thing.
FF already has an alchemist in its game making potions. We aren’t gonna get a potion wielding healer

Give Chemist a sniper rifle. Hey, if it works for Xenoblade Chronicles, it can work here too.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

That is the dumbest response I’ve ever heard. Look at the two names. ALchemist and a chemist. It’s the same damn job doing the same damn thing.
FF already has an alchemist in its game making potions. We aren’t gonna get a potion wielding healer

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How is that dumb? The fact that the names are similar is superficial. We could have chemist be named something different (Physician, Apothecary, Medic, Surgeon, Chemist has precedent as the classic FFT job.) but the fact that an Alchemist manufactures the product and the "Chemist" would use it in battle to heal still works to define how different they would be from one another.

Hence the other example she gave you with Blacksmith as the crafter of the sword and Gladiator like the user of the sword.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

That is the dumbest response I’ve ever heard. Look at the two names. ALchemist and a chemist. It’s the same damn job doing the same damn thing.
FF already has an alchemist in its game making potions. We aren’t gonna get a potion wielding healer

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sorry you already got the crown for the dumbest response. such attitude, smh

Weapon wise, it depends on what type of gameplay Chemist ends up getting. If we are going to mix ingredients up then shoot them out to heal I can imagine the job using a sort of backpack with a chemical tank connected to an injector. It would also depend on wether we shoot compact projectiles that explode into healing lights or we spray the healing mist onto the targets like a flamethrower.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

That is the dumbest response I’ve ever heard. Look at the two names. ALchemist and a chemist. It’s the same damn job doing the same damn thing.
FF already has an alchemist in its game making potions. We aren’t gonna get a potion wielding healer

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I dont see the problem , damn if they make chemist i want the same teacher as well, that guy is a badass , he is the face of inner quiet as well. We were solving mysteries during his questline he can teach us how to venture or for people who have leveled alchemist he can say we ve known each other for months and only now you think of asking me how to make explosives?
Tbf my version of chemist would be a limited job with rikkus minigame but fair enough we do need a new healer and frankly alchemy is right out busted when it appears, Free full cure , free limit break , free negate all elements , free aoe raise so im excited to see it happen if it does happen, i think yoshi p said beast master will be the second limited job .

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If possible id like that it remain a job that doesnt use mana.

In the unlikely circumstance that Chemist/Apothecary actually happens, this is just me, but I'd love to see it have a grenade launcher-esque weapon. If only because I want to make m32 rotary grenade launcher memes with FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch

Give Chemist a sniper rifle. Hey, if it works for Xenoblade Chronicles, it can work here too.

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Healing Headshots

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Originally Posted by lolicon09

Healing Headshots

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"Take your medicine."

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/04/12/.../3/920x920.jpg
Auto filling of course, since no other job needs consumables to do damage.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

That is the dumbest response I’ve ever heard. Look at the two names. ALchemist and a chemist. It’s the same damn job doing the same damn thing.
FF already has an alchemist in its game making potions. We aren’t gonna get a potion wielding healer

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Although the word "Chemist" is an evolution of the word for the ancient magical study called "Alchemy", the Job's in the game are actually quite different, however, they do share some themes. In other Final Fantasy games, there was Combat Job called Chemist they did DPS, buffs, and Heals, they used potions and other things to do this.

Alchemy the in-game profession mixes potions, which can be traded and sold. Not much life in it, but whatever.

Chemist - seen in FFV, FFX (Rikka), FFX-2, FF Tactics, FFTA, and other games, is a healer that uses Mixed potions for great effect. But wait there's more.
- With the theme of Chemist, they can mix it with Medic (VIII), and then add in Magitek, which this game has a ton of, to produce a new unique Healer class that uses Magitek like Gunbreaker and Machinist, to heal and buff the party.

The Name of said class doesn't have to be Chemist, and I suspect that the future Chemist class will be named Medic, or another Healer or magitek class name from past games. Also, odds are if the next expansion is Garlean/Sharlayan based which is the logical conclusion based on all the info seen so far, Medic/Doctor themed class kind of fits. I also suspect that the other DPS class we see will be based on Ninja gear or Dragoon gear. As currently Ninja and Dragoon do not share their gear sets with other classes.

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end of part one of my big rant... part 2 incoming.

Part 2, didn't realize I went over the limit of words. So time for the limit breaking post.
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Also to point this out further:

Tank Jobs- 4

1.0: Warrior, Paladin
3.0: Dark Knight
5.0: Gunbreaker

Healer Jobs- 3
1.0: White Mage
2:0: Scholar
3.0: Astrologian

Melee DPS Jobs- 4
1.0: Monk,Dragoon
2.0: Ninja
4.0: Samurai

Ranged Physical DPS jobs- 3
1.0: Bard
3.0: Machinist
5.0: Dancer

Magic DPS Jobs- 3 +1
1.0: Black Mage
2.0: Summoner
3.0: Red Mage
4.5: Blue Mage Limited Job

Technically they could add 1 more ranged job, but I think since we just got Dancer they will wait on that, and when they do I suspect it might be a limited Job.

As to why people feel Healer is next, simple we had a Tank & DPS this expansion, last expansion had a Melee DPS class, and a plus one limited class at the end. The last healer added was over 5 years ago, and there is room for a 4th full healer class. White Mage fits the stereotypical Magic Healer role, with Druid and Geomancer abilities, Scholar likewise is a classical healer with a pet, Astrologian combines the classical magic healer with time mage and gambler abilities. What we technically are missing are the magitek healer and the Chemist. Since the hints lead us to believe Chemist is coming, and because they admitted long ago that Chemist had been in the works to be released in Heavenward, one can easily put two and two together. Leading to the simple conclusion we are getting Chemist, but it might be called something updated to align with the theme of the next expansion.

If anything, I suspect that we will only get one full Job, and maybe a limited ranged job later, which would fill out the job lists with 4 jobs per primary role. (Tank, Healer, Melee, Ranged, and Caster.)

possible spoilers, well speculative spoiler territory.

BTW I'm leaning to Medic, Doctor, or Physician, over Chemist because of alchemist and because the odds are we are facing off against a shattered Garlean Empire, and rescuing Sharlayan from Zenos.

And why would Zenos be interested in Sharlayan, because hunting other worlds would be something he would want, and where better to learn how to do that than the seat of all knowledge. And why do I say a shattered Garlean Empire, because Zenos is Emperor now, and he could care less about the Empire, he wants melee combat that challenges him, he'll destroy Garlean weapons of mass destruction and than travel the land looking for a good fight, leaving the empire to its own devices, while it's in the midst of a rising civil war, and an idiot Ascian who just wants money and power for fun and games. Literally the threat of a powerful driven Empire died when Zenos came back. However, this doesn't remove them as a threat, if anything they are more dangerous now than ever because of the lack of leadership.

i been suggest medic with a dog and hand guns

hand gun could use to fire healing grenade into middle of party the dog is use gather supply steal medicals for enemy mobs and sniff out herb to be use in the battle field aswell allow players to glamourized the dog.

just think different dog appearance player could have. add them to treasure maps to be found you have players run to find them

at this time i if i was devs add bst medic with dog companion dragonling companion focus dev attention on improve pet jobs because now that i add a new pet job and limit pet job bst which be mid-long range pet job. it give the devs an excuse finally figure what improvement pet jobs need and were i plan to go with them

Chemist could use the bombs from FFXII if this has not been suggested already. XD

I think something in the line of a cannon, like cannoneer in FFTA2 if i remember right

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Originally Posted by Garten

I think something in the line of a cannon, like cannoneer in FFTA2 if i remember right

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Oh yeah. Forgot about this! :D

The popular ideas AFAIK were a rifle of sorts and throwable potions. But I also know of a precedent for weaponized syringes in another JRPG series.