Found this so called "leak" on gamefaqs

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12-21-2016, 05:25 AM
Kiyashi

Isn't it already confirmed that the expansion will be 2 jobs instead of 3 since the time it takes to do 3 and balance them would take much longer than the 2 years between heavensward and stormblood? Thought we already got confirmation on this.
12-21-2016, 05:30 AM
StarRosie

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Originally Posted by Kiyashi

Isn't it already confirmed that the expansion will be 2 jobs instead of 3 since the time it takes to do 3 and balance them would take much longer than the 2 years between heavensward and stormblood? Thought we already got confirmation on this.

Apparently Yoshi or someone has said they are gonna do 3 jobs now since Stormblood is ahead of schedule, yet whenever I ask someone to provide a citation to this claim they suddenly go quiet. So maybe there are gonna be 3 jobs now, maybe it is still only 2. I really wish we could get some clarification on this, which we may get this Friday since, ya know, Tokyo Fan Fest.
12-21-2016, 05:34 AM
Stormfur

The official stance was that they would never do another job like they did with Ninja, in the middle of a patch + Heavensward development with the three new jobs. It was too much too soon.

YoshiP did say that the new jobs had something to do with Moonfire Faire. Most people assume that to mean 3 rangers = 3 jobs but who knows.
12-21-2016, 05:40 AM
AlphaFox

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Originally Posted by StarRosie

Apparently Yoshi or someone has said they are gonna do 3 jobs now since Stormblood is ahead of schedule, yet whenever I ask someone to provide a citation to this claim they suddenly go quiet. So maybe there are gonna be 3 jobs now, maybe it is still only 2. I really wish we could get some clarification on this, which we may get this Friday since, ya know, Tokyo Fan Fest.

Agreeing with Stormfur, the only confirmation I saw was them not doing another mid expansion job. So 3 is still possible per expansion release but I've yet to see any clear info on never doing 3 again.
12-21-2016, 05:45 AM
Jpec07

I wouldn't put stock in it, especially given that Yoshida has said explicitly that he's not going anywhere for a few expansions (and that the Producer role is the one of the two he's got that he'd give up, if he didn't feel he was the best person to lead the game).

Some interesting ideas, but I also don't think SMR is going to be a tank.
12-21-2016, 06:05 AM
StarRosie

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Agreeing with Stormfur, the only confirmation I saw was them not doing another mid expansion job. So 3 is still possible per expansion release but I've yet to see any clear info on never doing 3 again.

I'm not talking about the "never doing 3 again." Thing, last I checked Yoshi said during the Vegas keynote when talking about the new jobs, that they were doing 2 this time around. Though I may have to go back and check that again.

EDIT! I was wrong, just went back and rewatched the Keynote from Vegas, Yoshi merely says "We have multiple jobs coming but details on that are for a later date." So the number of jobs we are getting is up in the air!
12-21-2016, 06:06 AM
LadyKairi

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Originally Posted by StarRosie

Apparently Yoshi or someone has said they are gonna do 3 jobs now since Stormblood is ahead of schedule, yet whenever I ask someone to provide a citation to this claim they suddenly go quiet. So maybe there are gonna be 3 jobs now, maybe it is still only 2. I really wish we could get some clarification on this, which we may get this Friday since, ya know, Tokyo Fan Fest.

If I remember correctly, Yoshida said something about "multiple jobs" which lead me to believe we could get 3 combat and some crafter or gatherer jobs. I'd have to go look back at the footage to confirm (which I'll prob end up doing to calm my own anxiety)
12-21-2016, 06:17 AM
Kosmos992k

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

10 MSQ dungeons and 4 trials? Heaven's Ward had literally half of that! Five dungeons and Two trials.

Was it not stated that the budget for StormBlood was something like 3 times that of Heavensward? I'd think that kind of boost to budget would enable that kind of boost to content. Wouldn't you agree?
12-21-2016, 06:24 AM
SpookyGhost

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Originally Posted by alimdia

If he were to drop director and keep producer he would lose too much decision power regarding the direction of the game.

We can dream.
12-21-2016, 06:32 AM
StarRosie

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Originally Posted by LadyKairi

If I remember correctly, Yoshida said something about "multiple jobs" which lead me to believe we could get 3 combat and some crafter or gatherer jobs. I'd have to go look back at the footage to confirm (which I'll prob end up doing to calm my own anxiety)

Just watched it again, yes he says multiple jobs but also says details for that is at a later date. So we may find out how many jobs we're getting on Friday.
12-21-2016, 06:35 AM
AlphaFox

Do wanna say I recall something about possibly a new DoH/DoL but dunno how much work it would take to create a one of those jobs, I'd assume a lot less than battle classes but who knows.
12-21-2016, 06:45 AM
Aramina

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Do wanna say I recall something about possibly a new DoH/DoL but dunno how much work it would take to create a one of those jobs, I'd assume a lot less than battle classes but who knows.

Oh reallllllllllllllllllly? I hope you recall correctly.
12-21-2016, 06:48 AM
Waryax

I think the person who wrote this forgot that there is still the EU fanfest after the JP one. I don't think they would reveal all of this, if you look at how much they revealed in Las Vegas and remember that Yoshi-P said that he couldn't reveal more to have something for the other fanfests too.

Add to that the fact that Yoshi-P wants specifically to stay Director and give up being a Producer in the future when it would make sense. Exactly the opposite from this "leak".
12-21-2016, 07:36 AM
Ultimatecalibur

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Originally Posted by Aramina

Oh reallllllllllllllllllly? I hope you recall correctly.

There were some comments about a possible Shepard DoL class.
12-21-2016, 07:41 AM
JunseiKei

I laughed at a roulette made with savage content. How are you going to have a roulette for content that few people have beaten? Even with echo, good luck with that. Mentor roulette is a nightmare sometimes just with the extreme primals.
12-21-2016, 09:31 AM
Aramina

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

There were some comments about a possible Shepard DoL class.

That would make sense so we could get our animal-y bits from gathering rather than killing.
12-21-2016, 09:48 AM
Atoli

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Originally Posted by Aramina

That would make sense so we could get our animal-y bits from gathering rather than killing.

Shepherd was planned (but ultimately never made it into the game) for 1.0. For some reason, people keep bringing it up as if there was any hint we would be getting it now (which doesn't make any sense unless they stop giving us mats from killing animals, which would piss tons of people off ;) )

Anyway, @topic: Glad it's so obviously fake. While I really want dancer healer to become a thing, I'm not willing to trade that in for a shortened GCD. I'm too old for this horrible, annoying trend that everything has to be faster and even faster pointless button mashing in modern MMOs and am glad that is not the case in FFXIV yet.
12-21-2016, 09:50 AM
Yasuhiro

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Originally Posted by GMERC

I don't know if you've ever played a Final Fantasy game before, but Red Mage is all about physical offense, black magic, and white magic. They're not just a stabby Rapier job with a fancy outfit.

Pretty much, that's literally their entire gimmick through the series too using low tier magic spells and iirc they don't learn either -aga or aja spells depending on the game.

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Originally Posted by Remus

I won't even count FFXI, I can hardly see balance in that game.

You can't just dismiss it because you don't like it FFXI is a MMO with raise present in the Red Mage's spell list, lol. Balanced or not
12-21-2016, 04:30 PM
Blackcanary

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Originally Posted by Remus

Sounds pretty fake to me.

RDM have the ability to raise?

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Red Mage has the ability's of both a White Mage and a Bleack Mage and they can enchant their weapon so a RDm having raise would happen. They had it in FFXI.
12-21-2016, 04:41 PM
Exiled_Tonberry

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Originally Posted by Yasuhiro

Pretty much, that's literally their entire gimmick through the series too using low tier magic spells and iirc they don't learn either -aga or aja spells depending on the game.

You can't just dismiss it because you don't like it FFXI is a MMO with raise present in the Red Mage's spell list, lol. Balanced or not

From what I hear, FFXI was an extremely unbalanced game though. XIV strives on making every job feel important and useful to some extent. Though older jobs like Paladin and White Mage are quickly becoming less relevant.
12-21-2016, 07:55 PM
Reynhart

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Originally Posted by Waryax

I think the person who wrote this forgot that there is still the EU fanfest after the JP one.

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I got myself information about new information be exposed during the 2 remaining fanfests. Here is it

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Red mage will be officially confirmed in the Tokyo Fanfest. yoshiP will hint Samurai using a Himura Kenshin Tshirt Dancer will be confirmed until later.

Why are you thinking that every info here talks about JP FanFest ?

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

I laughed at a roulette made with savage content. How are you going to have a roulette for content that few people have beaten?

The same way you can tackle savage content in a PUG with the Raid Finder.
12-21-2016, 08:05 PM
Yudzster

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Why are you thinking that every info here talks about JP FanFest ?

The same way you can tackle savage content in a PUG with the Raid Finder.

so basically a waste of time due to wiping
12-21-2016, 08:06 PM
Remus

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Originally Posted by GMERC

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Yes, I know what I said but when i say only SMN due to Arcanist SE has already said it was a mistake making them both together due to levels and making changes to skills which would affect both classes so they wouldn't go that route again. Also I have played FF actually... all of them at that. Yes, I know RDM has the skill Raise in the series but that doesn't mean they have to give them that skill when you are trying to make balance in a MMO especially when Raise in XIV is actually a high level spell which not many have access to unless you are very good when it comes to conjurey. (conjurer).

I'm pretty sure RDM isn't all that great at magic due to being able to use black magic and white magic. If we follow that philosophy of RDM having White Magic and Black Magic it won't have access to high level magic spells why do you think they have the title "Jack of all Trades, Master of None". You can give FFXI all you want but people who even played that game knows its unbalanced and they didn't even try. They just got jobs and implemented without thinking.

Also don't be surprised RDM isn't the RDM you know I mean just look at Dark Knight. They are suppose to have a skill where they sacrifice HP but do they have it? No they don't. So just because a job from previous games had a skill doesn't mean they WILL have it in XIV.
12-21-2016, 08:15 PM
Yasuhiro

I'm pretty curious about Red Mage now in this game, every job has unique skills unless you cross class them so does that mean potentially a Red Mage can use/learn Fire II when it levels? JP fan fest can't come soon enough... assuming we get job reveals + info on them

but...I suppose this could be a chance for a job to have the -ara -aga and -aja spells in the English localization to differentiate its skill set from other jobs? :p
12-21-2016, 08:17 PM
Rufalus

This isn't a leak, just somebody's wishlist mixed in with existing info. Tried to keep it realistic but missed the mark. Impossible amount of dungeons... 10 before endgame would mean 1 for every level.. 61, 62, 63, etc.
12-21-2016, 08:45 PM
Felis

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Than the part with Samurai getting two weapons? Paladin is the only combat job to date to ever get an offhand. I don't see any reason why SE would add another combat job with an offhand.

WHM and BLM can also equip offhand during level 1-50

I say it is a fake, because there are 3 jobs in the list, while Yoshi said that only 2 new jobs will be in 4.0
12-21-2016, 08:54 PM
Remus

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Originally Posted by Felis

WHM and BLM can also equip offhand during level 1-50

I say it is a fake, because there are 3 jobs in the list, while Yoshi said that only 2 new jobs will be in 4.0

He never said there will be only 2 new jobs.
12-21-2016, 09:11 PM
Reynhart

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Originally Posted by Yudzster

so basically a waste of time due to wiping

Actually, since JP population use Duty Finder in a very different mindset, I'd say thay can probably clear some of creator in pick up right now. And they probably wastly overgear Gordias and Midas to require far less coordination.

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Originally Posted by Remus

Yes, I know what I said but when i say only SMN due to Arcanist SE has already said it was a mistake making them both together due to levels and making changes to skills which would affect both classes so they wouldn't go that route again. Also I have played FF actually... all of them at that. Yes, I know RDM has the skill Raise in the series but that doesn't mean they have to give them that skill when you are trying to make balance in a MMO especially when Raise in XIV is actually a high level spell which not many have access to unless you are very good when it comes to white magic (conjurer).

Which is stupid. Considering even CNJ can't raise in battle before lvl 28, they could have easily given Resurrection as the first SCH skill without any issue on the long run. I think it was done on purpose to have at least one job that can raise the healers. And raising is neither "high level" nor restricted to "conjuring".
12-21-2016, 09:27 PM
Remus

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

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My mistake, meant conjurey but even though I still don't see them giving a DPS (If its a DPS?) Raise purposely. Also too be honest I see RDM in this game more likely more along the line of Spell Fencer. Can you imagine a class with melee attacks then in between have cast times? It might just be me but that just would seem weird.
12-22-2016, 01:13 AM
Velhart

I wouldn't count on this being real. I will say however that he does make it look quite believable.

I don't think I would go to GameFaqs with this information, but that is just me. If for some reason it is actually real, then color me surprised.
12-22-2016, 01:17 AM
Laerune

I think its fake, but it looks so good,

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