Healing melds..

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Originally Posted by lulunami

I will just quote what he posted.



These weights only take into account DPS. Dervy has said in the past that Crit may not be as useful for some healers because of the inconsistent nature of Crit for healing and overhealing. I think it is important to not take what Dervy posted out of context, but I am pretty sure that is going to happen anyway.

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I think you misunderstood my post. I will always prioritize crit over spell speed, so long as I am avoiding determination. It my be a stat weight DPS loss, but it's a heal gain, which is a dps gain.

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Originally Posted by Taika

It's unbelievable how some healers on these forums react to someone actually posting tested facts. :D It's like they have their own personal healer stat religion and pointing out how earth just doesn't seem all that flat goes right to their feelings. And this seems to apply only to healers - I can't even imagine a DD crying and screaming against someone posting this kind of data to them.

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Maybe because no one wastes time calculating the best healing stats for a DPS? I am not saying DPS on healers is useless, it's a nice extra but in a trinity game like FFXIV, it should not have the weight people are giving it.
In the end, I don't care if I have the perfect stats, I don't do savage (no interested and no desire for a static) and never had problems solo healing in ex trials.


Everyone is free to meld what they want and if people want to have the "perfect" melded build, well congratulations. I am not telling anyone to follow what I do but neither will I meld in a way I am not comfortable with.

I seriously wish they had never introduced tome/raid gear melds. Crafted armor was for melds, it should have stayed that way. And actually, being open minded to more possibilities than the fotm build is what gives things variety and "makes the world seem less flat" :)

Just because people don't obey what you consider perfect doesn't make their build less valid, don't you think? For me ACC has yet to make me heal better. Doesn't do that? Too bad, bye bye!

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Originally Posted by Chessala

Ranting

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You sound exactly like a mom that's been told vaccines don't cause Autism, when she read that they did.

[Very hostile towards anything that might actually help you. Information is a tool, you can choose to make an educated decision so long as you can find a rationale behind it.

Example: "I do not enjoy DPSing as a healer, but I do love the challenge of solo healing, so I don't need the accuracy, but I understand other healers have a choice as well."]

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Originally Posted by Chessala

The crap dervy posted can really burn in hell. If I want to only DPS, I play a DPS class and that's the end of it.

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People having been asking for healer weights for a long time. Their existence for pure dps in no way harma your playstyle. As a SCH, I am thrilled to have actual data to base my gear choices on.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

You sound exactly like a mom that's been told vaccines don't cause Autism, when she read that they did.

[Very hostile towards anything that might actually help you. Information is a tool, you can choose to make an educated decision so long as you can find a rationale behind it.

Example: "I do not enjoy DPSing as a healer, but I do love the challenge of solo healing, so I don't need the accuracy, but I understand other healers have a choice as well."]

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I rather sound like that than a kid that had it's favourite toy criticized :)

Also, I am sorry I did not sugarcoat my words in a way that makes them PC digestible. I vow to... still not give a crap in the future. If you want to take what I said as hostile, be my guest. Have a nice day!

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Originally Posted by raela

People having been asking for healer weights for a long time. Their existence for pure dps in no way harma your playstyle. As a SCH, I am thrilled to have actual data to base my gear choices on.

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Well, I am happy for you, enjoy!

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

That Scholar Spell speed weight though! Its pretty incredible how high secondaries are worth, compared to DPS classes on Scholar. More proof that SS is a better option than Det for SCH. I wonder if Dervy tested this WHILE spamming embrace, since proccing the enhanced pet action trait would directly affect Crit and Spell Speed.

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As others have noted, this is for DPS only. When taking into account healing you need to consider:

• Spell Speed does not affect your pets cast time, but theoretically does increase whispering dawns HoT
• DET is a flat linear boost to healing and damage, and with each increase becomes less effective
• CRT quadratically increases both healing and damage, but increases are less predictable
• SCH CRT-Lo is not taken into account in Dervy's DPS only calculations
• CRT and DET both affect your pets heals

With that information, we can assume:

• that DET will remain relatively static in its stat weight from DPS to heals
• that CRT will increase it's value (mostly due to adloquium)
• that spell speed will decrease in its value (due to a significant amount of healing power gaining 0 benefit from it)

With that, I pretty much stand by my previous stat priority, with minor changes to weights (assumed balanced healing and DPS):

WD: from between 6 and 9 to 9.128
MND: 1
CRT: from 0.3 to 0.3
SPS: from 0.25 to 0.25
DET: from 0.08 to 0.19

The only information I was trying to express was that spell speed beats determination by miles. Crit will always be king to SCH [Those crit Lustrates are just about as delicious as crit adlos!]

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

The only information I was trying to express was that spell speed beats determination by miles. Crit will always be king to SCH [Those crit Lustrates are just about as delicious as crit adlos!]

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For sure, I guess I just wanted to add my points and it felt like it logically followed yours ;)

I agree with you, that it's important to consider how having higher CRT can proc more SPS boosts from your pet, which makes CRT even better for balanced heal/DPS

Gotta say that I entirely disagree that a critted lustrate is anywhere near as nice as a crit adlo, especially with deploy :P Though, all crits are nice :)

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

For sure, I guess I just wanted to add my points and it felt like it logically followed yours ;)

I agree with you, that it's important to consider how having higher CRT can proc more SPS boosts from your pet, which makes CRT even better for balanced heal/DPS

Gotta say that I entirely disagree that a critted lustrate is anywhere near as nice as a crit adlo, especially with deploy :P Though, all crits are nice :)

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The reason I say lustrate is especially nice, is because of the limited amount of stacks you have in a minute. Ideally, you want to heal off the gcd as much as you can, but the less aetherflow have to use healing, the more for energy drain! :]