My only problem with jumping is that 99% of jumps will be done out of boredom.

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Originally Posted by options

They could add a delay in the animations so jumping can't be spammed. Make the character stumble or pause in movement when they land.

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Animation locks for jump! Brilliant!

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Damn you FFXI fan boys never give up. Even after SE confirmed the damn feature and even started work on it you still beg for it's dismissal.

So right back at Skyrant_Kangaroomouse and all FFXI fan boys, YOU are the ones who need to get it through your thick skull that jump WILL be implemented.

And please stop acting like WOW invented gaming so that every time you see a feature that game has you go shouting this is too WOWISH... get over yourselves.

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Reposting for sweet justice, or something. \o/

Yeah, exactly. They are just going to stop development on jump and the new zones with jump in mind all for a loud mouthed minority with a barbaric MMO agenda. That is totally in their best interest.

Haven't you stopped to think that with 2.0 they don't want to shoot for a niche market of players like yourselves? That's what FFXI was and SE was comfortable with that. They were comfortable with making another MMO for the same group of people til it failed. Maybe they want to be bigger and not lock out a market that is starving for the next best MMO. It's actually a really good time for them to redevelop the game and release 2.0. Leaving out these MMO standards would be a terrible representation of a next gen MMO. Something they are going for.

Sorry. Your niche MMO is dead and is slowly being developed into a more mainstream market in mind. Get over it.

What leaping or skipping?

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Damn you FFXI fan boys never give up.

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Why do you continually attack a specific playerbase? You do know you can't jump in Rappelz or Ragnarok online right? Why not call out "Ragnarok fanboys"? I swear people that hate FFXI are finding every excuse to blame the people that play that game, it's not their fault FFXIV was poorly received.

just make jump an emote, the the ppl that want jump have a jump /jump. and implement in such away it won't affect the game with ppl jumping around fields like rabbits

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Originally Posted by grandm

just make jump an emote,

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This is exactly what it's going to be, since Yoshida did mention the word "Emote" in conjunction with Jump. So unless that changes, it is just an animation to make people not feel tied down to the world.

Can't spam jump while playing Triple Triad...


*nudge nudge, wink wink*

I really didn't think this rage would last until now; I don't think it's hard to adapt to a word where you're not tied to the floor, even if other people jump on my screen and I, like, see it. I see lots of bullshit other people do that drives me nuts. (Dealing with others? In an MMO? I mean, if I have to deal with your attitude ruining my good time, you can deal with your own rage at seeing my jumps.)

99% of jumps would be done out of boredom - I agree.
99% of my MMO playing is done out of boredom, too.

Jumping is going to be awesome, and annoying the people who don't like it will be even better.

Cry baby tears are some of the best tasting ones out there.

>people complaining about people spamming the jump command
>talk as if they wont be spamming jump in Uldah on the day it's released for the lulz

i don't really see the point in a jump. but for a laugh i wouldn't mind see a great big line of ppl in ul'dah simulating a mexican wave

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Can't spam jump while playing Triple Triad...


*nudge nudge, wink wink*

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I like your way of thinking.

I didn't even read this post, the title of the thread made me have a little less hope for humanity.

You know what? New argument: Start quoting this every single time someone starts d!cking around with sh!tty QQ.

Jumping is a simplistic form of dancing. (Aesthetic movement that serves no purpose)

• Did dancing ruin immersion?
• When people dance at each other, does it annoy you?
• Are people standing around dancing en mass like it was their only option in town?
• When people are bored, do they stand around dancing nonstop?
• If the answer to any of these is yes, who's problem is that?

Then kindly, please, stop being such a rage-mongering buzzkill.
We're over-quota for that crap.
There's a surplus.

Help clean up our forums.

♪ The more you know. ♫

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

Yeah, exactly. They are just going to stop development on jump and the new zones with jump in mind all for a loud mouthed minority with a barbaric MMO agenda. That is totally in their best interest.

Haven't you stopped to think that with 2.0 they don't want to shoot for a niche market of players like yourselves? That's what FFXI was and SE was comfortable with that. They were comfortable with making another MMO for the same group of people til it failed. Maybe they want to be bigger and not lock out a market that is starving for the next best MMO. It's actually a really good time for them to redevelop the game and release 2.0. Leaving out these MMO standards would be a terrible representation of a next gen MMO. Something they are going for.

Sorry. Your niche MMO is dead and is slowly being developed into a more mainstream market in mind. Get over it.

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yeah, mhmm

so you mad people will be jumping? worry about yourself

People have a problem with jump, well honestly I didn't read your reasons why because I don't see anything wrong with adding a jump and no one could convince me it's stupid. There are so many reasons why this game needs a jump. The main one being you should be able to jump up and down slopes if not it's a fkn pain in the ass.

They should make it you can only jump outside of town, you don't need to jump in the town so why make it possible in town? This could be a way around everyone crying about people randomly jumping as well. By only adding the ability to jump outside it adds the element where it's needed, same as you can't ride a Chocobo in town.

Honestly tho I don't mind what they do with the jump just so long as this game has one, because it really needs it. It's also fun ^^

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Originally Posted by Skyrant_Kangaroomouse

Thanks, i am looking forward to it then. If it serves a purpose i am fine with it.

Quite right, I am not playing any other MMO that has jumping for that reason. Currently playing FFXI and EvE.

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You're selectively not playing MMOs based on a player's ability to jump? Really?!

i think when you jump you should be able to break bricks with your head. these bricks would then have rare drops such as mushrooms that make yuo grow taller or flowers made of fire that grants the user the power of fireball attacks.

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Originally Posted by KenJammin

My only problem with jumping is that 99% of jumps will be done out of boredom.

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That is your opinion, you will jump 99% out of boredom. Not me, especially not if they redesign the maps well to include meaningful tactical advantages with jumping (either to reach certain places or during battles to avoid certain ground type attacks).

Jump IS needed in FFXIV to add another dimension to the world. Don't forget, it's coming in 2.0, not in the current maps and battles.

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

To the OP.
When my group is waiting for anything, I tend to pace back and forth or run circles around people.
I've received a few complaints about how I should "Sit still."
ADD aside, jumping when bored is accompanied by something else annoying in it's place.

The BETTER solution isn't to get rid of basic travel ability, but instead add something for people bored, aka people have been asking for mini games (other than parley) for friggin ever.

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Claire Pendragon nailed a good point there. Same for me, when waiting I just don't "sit still". I poke people, walk around, etc. instead of being a zombie. Jumping is breaking your game experience but zombie people are not? Sorry, I'm not biting into that.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i think when you jump you should be able to break bricks with your head. these bricks would then have rare drops such as mushrooms that make yuo grow taller or flowers made of fire that grants the user the power of fireball attacks.

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Someones been playing too much Mario and takeing way too many mushrooms LOL

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Originally Posted by Skyrant_Kangaroomouse

We don't need jump, get it in your thick skulls SE.

You can implement jumping if it is NEEDED for example:

1. To solve platform puzzles.
2. To get onto higher ground to do more damage as archer.
3. To access hidden areas.
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As long as this is not the case THERE IS NO NEED FOR JUMPING!

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Totally agree. Now Jump would be quite useless, It would be implemented only beacause a big number of players have asked it ( Why? :( ). A recast for Jump would be useless too, if you implement it I should have the possibility to use it whenever I want. I hope that SE will do a good Job with it, beacause it could really ruin the seriousness of FF and its realism.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/Im/width=300/143700

Example of area where Jump could be used...
(Jump limited to certain area could be a solution?)

jump will cancel spells so with that in mind it is safe to guess that jumping will be a free will thing. You could however limit it to the field and then you would have no jumping in towns.

I hope when do incorperate jump it has a use! Jumping is always fun but it is more fun when used to advance further in a dungeon..etc :) I wouldn't mind having it to jump over those tiny tiny obstacles that I can't seem to run up for some reason >.>;

Yet another thread where if certain curmudgeons spot someone else having a good time, they've committed the unpardonable sin of "breaking their immersion." With these calls of trying to end expressions of joy and good times, what would they say if they discovered they've been playing a game all along?

I can't wait for jump because then they will need to design their dungeons better than "a pillar fell down and is blocking this hallway" or "3 foot tall cliff" which forced you to take a half hour detour. That was seriously like 80% of FF11 dungeons.

I'm going to hop everywhere I go. Not because I think it's fun or something I want to do, but because I learned from these forums that "bunny hopping" in a video game causes people to rage about it endlessly.

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Originally Posted by Blarp

I'm going to hop everywhere I go. Not because I think it's fun or something I want to do, but because I learned from these forums that "bunny hopping" in a video game causes people to rage about it endlessly.

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THANK YOU.

This community is no better than Wow's, but if it's such a huge problem why not add a "don't display jump" for those who are hellbent on telling others how to play their game? Win/mostly win scenario. Those who don't want to display jump would just have to watch people path through solid objects on occasion.

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Originally Posted by Skyrant_Kangaroomouse

We don't need jump, get it in your thick skulls SE.

You can implement jumping if it is NEEDED for example:

1. To solve platform puzzles.
2. To get onto higher ground to do more damage as archer.
3. To access hidden areas.
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As long as this is not the case THERE IS NO NEED FOR JUMPING!

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I agree tanaka even said the same thing but yoshi-p goes in many interview a lot of players are not liking the jumping idea. "Then why the hell you going to add it if a lot said no -.-" He goes on saying because other mmo have it pretty much saying oh wow,aion,rift,blah blah blah have it? oh we adding it too. Great job at listening to your main player base most the people that like jump would just return back to there mmo they play or play blizzard new one when they get bored then we be stuck with it.

If jump have a point in the game like what you said then i agree if not then don't even add it.

He said he was surprised that there were people that were against it, not that a majority of players were against it.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

...in many interview a lot of players are not liking the jumping idea. "Then why the hell you going to add it if a lot said no -.-" .

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He said he was surprised that there were people that were against it, not that a majority of players were against it.

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Because even more players DO want jump. :)

No offense, OP, but when I see "WoW" in any thread I stop reading. The assumption that FFXIV should take nothing from WoW, Aion, EQ, Ragnarok, FFXI, etc is absurd.

Two things: SE can choose to not add jump to make a percentage of the current player base happy, those who complain about immersion. Or SE can add jump to entice a percentage of those not currently playing who refuse to play because certain basic MMO elements, including jump, are not in FFXIV.

You, the current player who says it ruins your immersion, will say "We don't want those WoW players here anyway!" but SE wants the money and will add something as easy as jump to get that cash.

99% of all statistics are made up by people that want to give their arguments validity.

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

This community is no better than Wow's, but if it's such a huge problem why not add a "don't display jump" for those who are hellbent on telling others how to play their game? Win/mostly win scenario. Those who don't want to display jump would just have to watch people path through solid objects on occasion.

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I don't think it's the point...

I hope we get to jump and /laugh at the same time.

It's like a double slap in the face to people who get annoyed easily. Pick you poison b****

Yay for Leap frog! And I can't wait til I can jump on my Gobbue mount! /excitment!!! (All jokes aside, I can't wait for my Gobbue mount)

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Originally Posted by Visch

Go back to WoW plz.

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go back to ffxi. plz

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Originally Posted by KenJammin

I have no problem with jumping, I thought the higher quality animations of 14 make it look less gimmicky then wow and I can see how it adds another level of dimension to the game, the lalafell animations look a little silly but i think they're running speed has always looked strange to me so i can't say i'm surprised nor really care all that much as i choose not to be a lalafel.

I know they're are a lot of threads on jumping but i think we can all agree that looking out into a field of players constantly hopping around looks silly. I never got into WoW but whenever i watched my friends play it seemed like they would hit the spacebar almost like a nervous tick whenever they were walking any distance longer then 10 seconds or a wait that took more then a minute.

My solution here is simple and to suggest some kind of minor delay when the player hits the ground so that it hurts on running speed efficiency. I'm talking about something so small that if a player were to jump 30 times in a row while running they would only arrive at their destination 25% later. I think that would be more then enough to stop 90% of players from jumping around town nervously.

I also believe when jumping offers no distance/hour penalty minor obstacles like fences or ledges offer no further immersion then the ghost fences and ledges we currently have in game now. Jumping should make me feel like i'm manipulating my characters position in space not an assumption that i constantly own all the space above my characters head with no real limitations.A properly timed jump over a fence is a lot more gratifying then passively spamming jump as my character approaches a fence.

While i think the modern day WoW player will undoubtedly be frustrated by this, I have a lot more faith in the mature audiences ability to respect realism and FFXIV's individuality, cause what we have now screams wow clone and a lack of imagination something that any new player will notice the minute they hit the largest key on their keyboards. I don't want to look out upon FFXIV's beautiful landscapes and notice the nervous twitches of an impatient player over the intricately designed gear that he potentially spent long hours trying to acquire.

Thanks for reading and even if you don't agree with me I at least hope I can inspire the community to continue to offer constructive criticism.

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Solution. If you are bored don't play the damn game. We are getting jumping whether you like it or not and not on a if you need to jump basis, an actually jump button that you can press at anytime you want for no other purpose than being able to do so. If you are so bored you are standing around and jumping then there is a problem and you shouldn't be playing the game. There are several other very successful MMORPGs that have jump button and you don't see people around town spamming the jump button.