Mob mounts. Do you want them? (Poll)

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Originally Posted by ellohwell

Oh, so it's like a pet-battling side-feature where you mount the thing you're fighting on?

or are you talking about chocobos?

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My bad I'm talking about chocobos. It was worded oddly.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

My bad I'm talking about chocobos. It was worded oddly.

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Oh... well even if chocobos arent replaced in terms of their value and importance, the mount system kind of serves no purpose then, other than to pollute the game with cartoony imagery.

I want the chocobo to be a unique all around mount and if they really need to implement these mob mounts, they should implement them in form of a quest or for beastmaster. Implementing the magitec armor which I really like should be risky enough.

Please no uber drastic changes for this game and its atmosphere. The basement is great and it will be awesome with the coming changes up to 2.0.

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QUIZ TIME:
How are you able to use an aggro MOB as a mount?

Beastmaster.

But seriously, who said these mounts will only be available for player which keep playing?

They can work if there done right, for example, LNC/DRG could ride drakes easily, because of how DRG and Dragon Knights are about, and that is usually either killing or taming dragons, perhaps a possible BST/Tamer? class could ride any, as part of thier role of taming mobs, and other classes and jobs can ride small ones they can intimidate easily.

This could work well, but it has to be done right or it will fall flat on it face.

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Originally Posted by Daenerys_Sedai

[...] If you don't like the mounts, ride the chocobo. I don't see what the big deal is. [...]

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Oh my goodness, what a smart solution for the problem at hand! I bet people all over the world are falling on their knees and thank you for this revelation!

Oh, wait, it's not about riding them at all. It's about seeing others ride them and thus taking away from the current style and atmosphere of Eorzea. My bad.

I don't know, I'll probably stick with chocobos for land travel. If I have to travel across water it might be a different story.

I know they're adding content for swimming, so something to travel across water quicker would be nice. something not a boat of course.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

I don't know, I'll probably stick with chocobos for land travel. If I have to travel across water it might be a different story.

I know they're adding content for swimming, so something to travel across water quicker would be nice. something not a boat of course.

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Maybe... A blue chocobo? :D

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Originally Posted by Efrye

Oh my goodness, what a smart solution for the problem at hand! I bet people all over the world are falling on their knees and thank you for this revelation!

Oh, wait, it's not about riding them at all. It's about seeing others ride them and thus taking away from the current style and atmosphere of Eorzea. My bad.

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Lol, I bet he lately got his no shit sherlock license.

I find the whole mount ordeal to be a little too much, depending on how they implement it. I have mixed feelings about the wyvern, and only bad feelings about the Gobbue and the Ahriman. The magitek mount has my clear go though.

If people are going to hop a lot that's one gripe, but let alone countless of odd mounts in all shapes and sizes running around. Although I don't have any real complaint, it's more of a bad feeling, since all in the end comes down to how and if they implement this.

I'm in favor of Beastmasters taming mobs to ride into battle, but I don't think just anyone should be able to whistle and summon a Goobbue to ride..

As this is currently just a concept, I hope Yoshi-P uses this idea for the BST job/class and gives us something a little different as a reward (unique chocobo armor or special limited breed of choco would be nice..)

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

I'm in favor of Beastmasters taming mobs to ride into battle, but I don't think just anyone should be able to whistle and summon a Goobbue to ride..

As this is currently just a concept, I hope Yoshi-P uses this idea for the BST job/class and gives us something a little different as a reward (unique chocobo armor or special limited breed of choco would be nice..)

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I do agree with this but I would always say that DRG>BST for dragon mounts though. Also as I said above I wouldnt mind if there were a select few smaller mobs that anyone can ride, like a coblyn (probably modified to make sure there isnt a huge spike up your ass) because I belive it should be things anyone (cept a lalafell) can realisticly intimidate.

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Originally Posted by ellohwell

Oh... well even if chocobos arent replaced in terms of their value and importance, the mount system kind of serves no purpose other than to pollute the game then with cartoony imagery.

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at the moment the main reason for the mount's are to get you from A to B as fast as you can without using anima. i don't understand your view of cartoony. the game is final fantasy just coz something is not realistic don't make it out of place in this game

i don't really mind either way it will be nice to have something that shows i was here before 2.0 and a mount is the most visible way. but i can understand ppl not wanting to ride mobs

Seems like a lot of people are in favor of a bst job. I think that would be fine ^.^.

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Originally Posted by grandm

[...] i don't understand your view of cartoony. the game is final fantasy just coz something is not realistic don't make it out of place in this game [...]

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There's a difference between believability and realism. Compared to the current tone of the game, riding Ahriman and Goobbues is way too ridiculous to fit in with the rest - it's not believable. I guess that's what he means with cartoony.

Anyway, I actually like the beastmaster idea as well, that sounds reasonable enough. But something's telling me that it's not what they have in store for us at all.

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Originally Posted by Efrye

There's a difference between believability and realism. Compared to the current tone of the game, riding Ahriman and Goobbues is way too ridiculous to fit in with the rest - it's not believable. I guess that's what he means with cartoony.

Anyway, I actually like the beastmaster idea as well, that sounds reasonable enough. But something's telling me that it's not what they have in store for us at all.

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in a fantasy world. in any final fantasy, the player is only restricted by the imagination of the dev that create the content. if some1 had told you a year ago that a rock is going to fall from the sky and change th whole game as you know it. would this not have sounded ridiculous? i'm sure if we get mob mounts there will be lore to tie it in with the game

i want a wyrm mount :)

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Originally Posted by grandm

in a fantasy world. in any final fantasy, the player is only restricted by the imagination of the dev that create the content. if some1 had told you a year ago that a rock is going to fall from the sky and change th whole game as you know it. would this not have sounded ridiculous? i'm sure if we get mob mounts there will be lore to tie it in with the game

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It's completely different to that, lol.

Even by Nickelodean standards, riding on a freaking Gobbue's head is cartoony.

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Originally Posted by grandm

in a fantasy world. in any final fantasy, the player is only restricted by the imagination of the dev that create the content.

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Not really. All good fantasy worlds are based upon some kind of internal logic that explains how and why things work the way they do. You can put the most awesome-looking elements inside a fantasy world, but if the audience doesn't perceive the world as convincing - as real, if you want - it's worth nothing.

You (almost) never want to mix and match styles, that's true for the art design as well as for story and content. Needless to say, riding flying eyes does not work all to well with the current image of Eorzea. It might work with what they have in mind for 2.0, but that's another story. A story I probably don't want to experience...

I think they are pretty cool. I would like however to see some more original ideas for new mounts. Not just mobs we have killed. But I still freaking love the mob mounts I hope they are just like the Chocobos.

what ^ efrye said! I might not play when 2.0 comes out. I might not like the game/story/lore. But getting there is going to be a FUN experience.

I'm honestly really against mounts other than chocobos.

The entire purpose of Chocobos are domesticated birds meant to be transportation. If an adventurer had a choice between a domestic bird or a fire-breathing drake, what do you think they're going to choose?

Riding monsters makes no sense either, they're damn MONSTERS. A dodo, maybe. Anything non-aggressive. But an Ahriman? A Voidsent mob? Yeah, I'm sure one will be just fine with you sitting on its back.

Realistically, I'm sure there will be an explanation and a process you have to go through in order to obtain these monster mounts, but I'm still not happy about it. Any "mount" in FFXIV can be done with a chocobo. Need a flying one? Black chocobo. Swimming one? Blue. The groundwork is laid out for it already, and it just feels like they're cheapening the value and impact of mounts in general, especially Chocobos by letting you ride monsters. It's just going to end up being a novelty.

I know that there's really nothing we can do to stop this from being implemented, and from the looks of things in the poll (not like these things are an accurate reading at all anyway) most people seem to like this idea, so I guess I'm in the minority. Oh well, I can always hope that they'll decide against implementing it.

I can't find any logic in the Ahriman and Goobue. Drake, maybe (The Beastmen tribe did manage to tame them after all), and it'll be an awesome ride for Dragoon, but the Ahriman seemed like an evil creature and Goobue just look comical.

...Why do I have a feeling we are all being trolled by Yoshida? In the video it looks like they can't keep a straight face when they showed the Goobue.

Can we at least agree, just in case the devs stop by and take this all into account, that young drakes would make excellent mounts; that even if the community says, "too many mounts is a bad idea!" we can at least keep that one? The 'I survived the umbral era and all I got was the ability to summon and ride a beast more capable of surviving with me than a chocomcnugget' one?

Pweaaase?

i want a drake so yea i like the mou nts idea as a reward for our loyalty to se and the new team of devs
ps thanks yoshi-san for all the fine work so far

My thoughts on mountable mobs.
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I wont be posting a "Like" in these stupid poll threads though, I'd rather we get the proper poll functionality that these forums are capable of but we are unable to use for some stupid reason.

Do Taru's finally get to ride Dodo's?

I would rather not mind flying magitech than flying ahriman.

Mountable mobs seems bad idea, they re wild creatures after all... >_<

More chocobos armors, more chocobo kinds, magitech stuff to travel ? Might be enough.

I think it won't be much trouble. Probably the fastest mount will still be the chocobo. The others may be for battle.

lol People, so closed minded. I'm 100% for these mounts. I don't care for the drake, I don't care for the Floating Eye, but I do want my Goobue. I've read a couple places (Think one was in the live letter II) that they were only going to be for people who stick around through the Umbral Era. So if 2.0 is a success then only MAYBE 5% of the general population wil have them. I'm all for this SE, don't punish some just because some feel extra "fun" stuff would kill there immersion.

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Besides, I found my Boto Kob when he was a mere baby, being attacked by a pack of Kobolds. Abandoned and alone I took him in and we've become the best of friends.

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Originally Posted by Tyro

I think it won't be much trouble. Probably the fastest mount will still be the chocobo. The others may be for battle.

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They said that chocobo are for battle that the point of them :( that why they have gear and such. So ya i don't see the other mounts being anything but for looks.

Magitek and Chocobos only are my preferences, but I am ok with mob mounts as very special rewards. For instance, only for pre-2.0 players.

I don't want to see everyone and their mother riding something else, we need people riding Chocos, or else we lose the FF Feeling they are trying to put into the game.

I think it would look silly to see people traveling around on Ahriman or Goobue mounts. I'd prefer to see Chocobos remain the standard and have special mounts available for Beastmaster. If a new area opens up, it could have it's own native mounts that are not chocobos. Imagine if Aht Urhgan had wivre mounts instead of chocobos. That would have been fine with me.

SHEEP MOUNTS.

(No, I'm not Scottish.)

Honestly, after watching them, it didnt bother me as much as I thought it possibly could. Still a little weird but won't hurt me as long as chocobo gets a lot of attention.

No, it sounds terrible. Chocobos and Magitek are more than enough. Anything else would disrupt "The final fantasy feel."

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

No, it sounds terrible. Chocobos and Magitek are more than enough. Anything else would disrupt "The final fantasy feel."

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http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...FXIV/drake.jpg
While I humbly respect your opinion, my horse requests
a word with you.

(My way of saying; Final Fantasy has a few constants, but the rest changes. If I can riiide ze shoopuff in between chocobos and not have it break Final Fantasy, I think I should be able to ride my hard-earned drake and not have it break Final Fantasy.)

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

While I humbly respect your opinion, my horse requests
a word with you.

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I think I'm in love with you.

Regardless: The point is it's a limited-edition gift to us who stay for the whole transition. Not everyone will have one. Not everyone will have the same one. It won't be a permanent feature. It won't be Pokemon. Any other weird oppositions?

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

While I humbly respect your opinion, my horse requests
a word with you.

(My way of saying; Final Fantasy has a few constants, but the rest changes. If I can riiide ze shoopuff in between chocobos and not have it break Final Fantasy, I think I should be able to ride my hard-earned drake and not have it break Final Fantasy.)

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Shoopuf was for crossing deep waters in a world where colored Chocobos were not present. Drakes/Goobues/Ahriman are for... doing exactly what Chocobos do. Like I said previously, I'm not completely opposed to it, but Chocobos need to be much much more common than anything else.

I'm all for riding these mobs around cuz I loves me some variety. I just hope they implement more original mounts too (as in, not recycled from pre-existing enemies).

How about a "Throne Held By Four Flying Moogles" mount? Americaaaa, f$#K yaaaa!

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Originally Posted by Djeserit

Like I said previously, I'm not completely opposed to it, but Chocobos need to be much much more common than anything else.

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Oh, I agree with that. Don't mistake me for saying, "Hey, SE, go hog wild with the mount system!" -- chocobos need to stay on the throne. I simply think it's a profound gesture for SE to say, "Hey, thanks for having faith in us and investing money into our project after such hardship already harmed our business relationship." by breaking that chocobo tradition.

I sincerely hope that the rest of the game revolves entirely around chocobos and magitek machina ... but for this one time only exception, I think being battle hardened during the apocalypse earns us the right to tame some more badass beasts of burden.

Again, I just think it's very deep that they'd consider giving us this option, I'd accept it humbly. After accepting it humbly, I'd spend most of my 2015 running nilly willy through areas threatening to have my horselizard eat the bird-riders, sure, but that's irrelevant.

I do like mob mount, but should be only to a extend and they should not be something rare either, I dont want mob mount to be more popular than the tradition mount Chocobo